Considering most show barn trainers make money off day fees, trailering, etc, versus the day to day board and training (even Olympians in my experience), I am still astonished that shows were allegedly included in flat training board… especially at that low price.
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It strikes me, over and over, that MB was kindly trying to make this training and showing experience accessible to Lauren, who steadily was taking advantage of him in many different ways over time by assuming more and more services and accommodations into her time there. Like bringing more horses in, posturing as a well heeled paying client. Which she didn’t intend to pay for. When it became clear he was getting nickled and dimed out of payment for services, along with her lack of work ethic and the revelation of myriad legal and personality dangers, he became overwhelmed with her, wanting her out. At least that’s the way I see it.
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I would agree with your assessment.
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I hear you, but I still find it astonishing. Especially if you factor in the deep discount for even two horses and rent.
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You mean like in My Cousin Vinny, when the judge said something like, “That was an intelligent, lucid and well reasoned arguement” and Vinnie says “Thank you, Judge” and judge says “Denied”. You mean like that?
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Yes, it’s astonishing how far bullies will go when they find a victim who can be bullied.
I can imagine MB says “bring your horses here to NJ, let’s get something going” and they make a deal for two horses. Then Daddio on the Patio bullies him into giving her, and her personal groom, an apartment. Then, well, she has many horses, you said bring your horses, so she brings up the others not in training. Then she buys a schoolmaster from him, bullying him to eating the board on that one, saying the horse will be here forever, lovingly. Then she’s buying another and importing it, and all is becoming clear how much she hasn’t paid for and probably won’t on the new ones. So I think the “deals” were a ship sailed, sinking slowly over time. I doubt he agreed to all this up front.
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I’m still a bit confused about her having the funds to buy horse(s) from MB, buy from overseas, pay to import and quarantine, but not have $$ to pay the board on them and then have to mortgage a house paid for in cash.
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I know. Except, what do you mean, mortgage a house paid for in cash. So she paid for the Florida house in cash, then mortgaged it, what, for repair? Whole thing sounds like Daddio will buy things from her funds then arrange for ways to pay other things over time. May be how he manages the funds. Is the house thing a way to tie up the funds? I don’t know how to manage money, clearly, unless this ties up a good chunk of the money, then funds rehab which improves its value they can, ideally, later sell for more profit. Dunno. Wierd
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No doubt the LK behavior acting out, even more so than the money, drove his response. It was worse than the worst of bad divorces.
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I’ve tried clicking on the links provided for today’s potential viewing, but they don’t work outside of the USA, so I’ll sit tight here and would appreciate if anyone can give vague details - if the viewing is even made public. Thanks in advance. 
Oh, and could @eggbutt message me if she has a minute, I’ve got something she might be interested in.
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I still reel at the audacity thinking she was anyone special. Did she honestly pump herself up to believe Michael had been waiting for her his entire career? She was (is) a nobody with a few horses…no equestrian sponsors, no real achievements, no realistic goals, yet she thought she was the be all - end all for him. Ironically she has been exactly that at least for the past few YEARS. Think of that!!! Michael has been incarcerated longer than he’s known her!!!
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I believe that Nagel’s firm has specifically said they do not represent Jonathan and Kirby Kanarek. That their filings about Jonathan and Kirby Kanarek are on behalf of their actual client, Lauren Kanarek.
In my opinion, their desire to ruin him is not financial only.
And Lauren and Jonathan have both claimed that she is petrified of Michael being free, so though my opinion is that she is not truly scared of him at all, they have expressed the opposite.
That could be how one describes the vast majority of her ramblings here on this very forum too.
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The previous owner had already improved the property within the structural limitations and added a pool. There is nothing more that can be done to increase the value of the property to the point where it would be considered worth the expense, beyond whatever one would choose to do for purely cosmetic and aesthetic purposes, like renovate a bathroom or kitchen and replace flooring. None of that would give a significant boost in the property value, since the home was already at a level that would be considered “normal” for such a property in that development.
Buying the home was putting money somewhere it can’t be taken away by courts due to the legal protection that FL offers and getting LK a non-rental residence where she can do as she pleases in the confines of the home, without answering to a landlord or any other oversight beyond her parents.
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Say what? They paid for the FL house in cash but then had to mortgage it? Assume you mean a home equity loan and wondering if they used the funds to do all the renovations that LK mentioned. Or are they using those funds to pay board/training at her new playground? Or perhaps paying legal expenses?
Edited to say that I see several folks have already mentioned the house mortgage situation.
Also - I’ve never done a home equity loan, but am curious. Are there restrictions on what you can use those kinds of funds for? Or can you use them for whatever your little heart desires?
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Wouldn’t she need some sort of credit rating/employment to obtain a mortgage and wouldn’t Daddy have to apply as well since the property is in both names? If she has such wealth, what was the abrupt need for cash? Renovations to the house she apparently rarely lives in since she also has a residence wherever she has her horses? I can’t even imagine what her cash output is monthly for all her pets. That said, it isn’t our business other than an obvious reason for the quest for what she thought would be easy money via law suits.
By the way, has anyone here received the subpoena that was threatened by a now banned poster?
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Question for the group - when you are “out of the country” for whatever reason, do you troll the thread? I am astonished Inigo-montoya was here just a few minutes ago. Mrs Inigo-montoya checks in frequently as well. It must be a boring trip so far or they are looking for breaking news!
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I would think that since JK is co-owner, they can use just his financial score. As long as one of the owners has the funds and a decent credit history…
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I can picture them, like so many others really, sitting at the fancy restaurant, having ordered their meals both with their phone in the face doing various internet scrolling.
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But wouldn’t they both need to sign the mortgage documents?
Maybe they are trying to learn if there were any new revelations overnight (like new filings). Depending on where they are, they could be many hours ahead and don’t want to wait until Nagel gets into the office to find out if he was able to somehow get the hearing delayed. So they are checking here to see if any of us have “news” to share. 
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