MB Civil Trial: JK/KK Contempt of Court?

Ohhhhhhh you said a wordy dirty. Your post may get flagged. /sarrrrrrrrcasm

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No, I genuinely cannot fathom what you meant by the jury thinking that rendering a verdict of Not Guilty would be “too risky of a strategy” if they thought that the prosecutor had not made his case on all elements other than intent.

The jury could have given a verdict of Not Guilty on the counts related to LK if they thought the prosecutor had not made his case beyond a reasonable doubt. They did not give a verdict of Not Guilty. When the defense successfully established that he was legally insane, he was then found NGRI instead of Guilty, because, as Bilinkas stated, NGRI means that he is not criminally responsible for his conduct, that is, his having shot her.

Just a friendly reminder for those reading along:

“Finish The Bastard” - text sent to RG from LK, who also copied her father, as testified to and verified by LK and RG under oath.

“I’m going to f-ing kill her” quote attributed to a transcript purportedly created by Kirby Kanarek and referenced as a footnote in LK’s SS report. Quote has not been verified and transcripts have yet to be produced, unless that happened in court today.

Thank you. Carry on.

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Yeah, you can’t fathom it because I didn’t mean or say that [edit].

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Keep scrolling by the couple of posters that continually try to derail and shut down the thread. :snowflake:

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You said “It’s entirely possible that they felt it too risky of a strategy”, with “they” referring to the jury, and “it” referring to rendering a verdict of Not Guilty.

So it is what you said. What did you mean?

No, that was a meaning that you assigned and inferred [edit].

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I quoted your sentence for you. You spoke of the jury considering a Not Guilty verdict being “too risky of a strategy”.

My original response to you merely said I did understand what you meant by that.

So good luck with the idea complaining about the judge may help this situation. If the judge is doing his job, as I believe, by following legal guidelines as set by New Jersey State vs Krol 1975 and State vs Fields 1978 and requiring MB work the “levels” to avoid recidivism then complaints are just needless, useless effort. If the judge is vindictive and biased (as some here claim and what is he biased against, Olympic level horse trainers?) then the complaints will possibly make him even more so. Irritating or harassing the judge who holds MB’s immediate future and well-being in his power is just about the dumbest idea I’ve seen yet on this forum. Working through the levels I believe includes short outside releases with family. What about helping out there by coming up with a barn to visit or maybe something else he might enjoy and where he can feel safe? If he is up for that.

Hopefully, the mediator has led all parties to an acceptable settlement.

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I haven’t caught up yet, if someone else has already said it, but many judges act this way. Not all are jerks about it, though.

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You clearly said it. I quoted the sentence when I replied to you.

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I interpreted the “they” as MB’s legal team. His legal team had a strategy, not the jury.

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And we’ve got a winner here!

Amazing what you can see when you take your blinders off (not you, BD, you don’t have blinders on)… Or aren’t out to instigate and/or provoke.

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Ah, OK.

In that case I agree. The legal team did not have him plead simply Not Guilty by reason of self defense (without NGRI) because obviously it was much too risky. Without the NGRI plea there as well, the jury would have found him Guilty. I’ve pointed that out myself.

Of course, even with the NGRI plea, the jury still had the option of finding him Not Guilty if they thought the prosecutor had not established the elements of his case. As they did with the counts relating to RG.

To my knowledge no one has complained about Stephen Taylor’s ruling per se, but HIS BEHAVIOR toward the defendant and his representatives.

You actually think there was some sort of settlement today? Seriously? Did the Kanareks throw in the towel?

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I think the judge’s behavior has been exemplary.

I’m waiting on you to let us know about mediation as you are the one with connections-RC, MH, LO, the Kanarek family, etc.

Edited to add the Kanarek family.

I am heartened by the people who ignore certain someones. It would be lovely if you all would ignore folks! A lot of us want to ignore the nonsense.

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:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Connections? The irony.

:joy: :joy: :joy: :joy:

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You know, having a passing aquqntence with a BATNA I just don’t see how these two parties could mediate more than issues like, “how many witnesses are we going to put on?”

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There is a new podcast to check out on the case. Grimm: A True Crime Podcast, at about 34:20 starts the Barisone case.

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