MB Civil Trial: JK/KK Contempt of Court?

[Knights_Mom]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Knights_Mom

@CurrentlyHorseless

@eggbutt is the one hiding behind @trubandloki by attributing to her the lie that LK reported MB to SS for sexual abuse.

Wrong. It’s you.

And there you have it, folks. The Oracle, the great sage in a bathrobe, has spoken.

Finally, we agree.

[trubandloki]

Reminder to those who have forgotten - this is what the thread is about.

@trubandloki

So far in the civil trial brought by Lauren Kanarek there are a bunch of road blocks, all caused by Lauren Kanarek and her parents Jonathan Kanarek ( @Inigo-montoya ) and Kirby Kanarek ( @Seeker1 ) . Both parents have been posting on this very forum that they are involved in this situation so it seems strange that in a case brought by their daughter they are now claiming they have nothing worth adding.

Jonathan Kanarek (Inigo-Montoya here on COTH) failed to answer a discovery subpoena and now has a contempt request out there.

Kirby Kanarek (Seeker1 here on COTH) also failed to answer a discovery subpoena and now has a contempt request out there.

Jonathan Kanarek is not only a lawyer himself but is also the father of Lauren Kanarek who claimed right here on this forum that she has a top 10 global law firm on speed dial who will have a team of senior level lawyers answer any question she has immediately, so it seems like if Jonathan was dealing with something that he did not understand that Lauren could call up her top 10 global law firm to get an answer, no?

But darn, I think the basics of answering a subpoena in a timely manner is taught to all lawyers, no matter their specialty so I would think that Jonathan knows enough to know that it makes him, his wife, and his daughter look pretty bad that he ignored that subpoena in a case filed by them (well his daughter). And then he added to it by lying here on the forum saying he had answered and it was just lost.

But wait, there is more and it is not a set of free Ginsu Knives. He then had his daughter’s lawyer file something even though his daughter’s lawyer does not represent him or his wife who is in the same situation as he is. I have to assume that she takes her legal advice from her darling husband, the lawyer of the family.

Lauren Kanarek, who was impeached at the criminal trial, also admitted under oath that she lies. Some of the other things Lauren Kanarek admitted to under oath at the criminal trial include her plan to ruin Michael Barisone and that she said the infamous line of “finish the bastard”.

“but you knew that already”

[MorganSercu]

In the middle of the screen shot is a requirement that an adult member who suspects child abuse MUST report it to the appropriate law enforcement agencies.

You don’t dump it on other agencies to handle. As a responsible USEF member and adult 18 years old or older - LK was required to do more.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@SillyHorse

KM, please put CH on ignore. Your (well-reasoned) replies just cause CH to continue posting ridiculous theories and “alternative facts.”

LOL. @SillyHorse considers the response

“Wrong. It’s you.” to be an example of a well-reasoned reply.

[Knights_Mom]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@SillyHorse

KM, please put CH on ignore. Your (well-reasoned) replies just cause CH to continue posting ridiculous theories and “alternative facts.”

LOL. @SillyHorse considers the response

“Wrong. It’s you.” to be an example of a well-reasoned reply.

Yes @SillyHorse is quite right! I like them.

Again we agree. Spooky, eh?

[hut-ho78]

@eggbutt

Isn’t it typical behavior for LK to weaponize whatever agency she could think of to cause anguish for her targets? Dang, that woman is nothing if not viciously consistent.

We know LK has threatened to sue SS/USEF…I actually wonder if Barisone might actually pursue that avenue himself since it is KNOWN SS/USEF was well aware of LK, with actual submitted reports, and did nothing! This all could have been prevented.

Anyone know if she and RG are currently around children? (s)

BTW, my opinion, there is one extremely dangerous mentally ill individual in this equation and it isn’t Michael Barisone.

If you read New Jersey’s rhe State vs Krol 1975 and the state vs Fields, you will see that behavior that is short of dangerous is not to be used to restrict someone’s rights. Only dangerousness is. MB proved to be dangerous and is at Anne Klein en route at some point to Greystone where he can work the levels. LK’s behavior may be a nuisance but one cannot be shot or restricted for that behavior.

[eggbutt]

@CurrentlyHorseless

There was enough evidence that he shot her that the jury declined to find him NG.

NOT ONE SHRED OF EVIDENCE, BUT YOU KEEP DREAMING.

[MHM]

@eggbutt

Anyone know if she and RG are currently around children? (s)

Doesn’t the owner or trainer at the farm where they are now have a couple of young kids? I think I remember seeing them in a video posted by the farm on their Facebook page. They looked like cute kids playing with their dogs and ponies, as I recall.

[trubandloki]

@hut-ho78

MB proved to be dangerous and is at Anne Klein en route at some point to Greystone where he can work the levels

All of the medical professionals that actually deal with Michael and assessed Michael do not feel he is a danger to himself or others.

[eggbutt]

@Knights_Mom

Care to make a wager? I am.

I’m also willing to wager on civil case outcome.

Me too!!!

[trubandloki]

@eggbutt

@Knights_Mom

Care to make a wager? I am.

I’m also willing to wager on civil case outcome.

Me too!!!

Can I join the wager too?

I am on the side that the lawyers are correct here and Jonathan Kanarek is as stated, the COTH poster @Inigo-montoya.

[ekat]

@trubandloki

Can I join the wager too?

Yeah, I’d wager a lot that Mr Silver knew exactly who IM is when he wrote that pleading, and the proof will come out eventually.

[hut-ho78]

@Knights_Mom

@hut-ho78

A grown man unsnapping bras or bikinis on a minor is child sexual abuse. If it was an non-consenting adult, it can be seen as sexual assault.

Kindly pick an argument and stick with it so I can decide on which point I can defeat your argument.

You keep saying the SS claim was for verbal abuse.

Now here you are claiming sexual abuse.

So which one? Is it both?

No matter which way you slice it, you’re still apparently W R O N G.

Again.

Her SS complaint was for verbal non physical abuse. Her SM chatter where she says she lies claimed he was unsnapping bras and bikinis.

I’m neither wrong nor contradicting myself.

[MHM]

I don’t know who would be willing to take those bets, considering the odds involved. Any bookmaker would run screaming in the opposite direction. Lol.

[Sdel]

@ekat

@trubandloki

Can I join the wager too?

Yeah, I’d wager a lot that Mr Silver knew exactly who IM is when he wrote that pleading, and the proof will come out eventually.

I wonder why it was such a big secret? I mean, Seeker had no problems accepting her responsibility and actions in this debacle of an incident that was intended to FTB.

[Knights_Mom]

@MHM

I don’t know who would be willing to take those bets, considering the odds involved. Any bookmaker would run screaming in the opposite direction. Lol.

I’m noticing the 2 mouths who keep insisting otherwise ALSO won’t take those bets.

[hut-ho78]

@Knights_Mom

@hut-ho78

@Knights_Mom

@Sdel

LK did at one point claim that MB was teaching the boy to unsnap bras or bikinis to prove he wasn’t “gay”……I can see how that could be considered “verbal” abuse and “sexual” abuse as well…

LK claimed many things and all were found to be lies.

Eggbutt said there was always a kernel of truth in what LK says.

Ok but I’m not Eggbutt. So how about you attempt to debate ME on what I believe!

I think many of LKs statement are total lies and have no truth to them but rather she says whatever lie she must to win.

Address THAT and not by trying to use what another poster thinks.

I actually agree with that in regards to SM posts. I also think that trait is shared by posters here. Some even just use the word “wrong” on a post with links to backup when they know they Know the information to be correct.

[trubandloki]

@Sdel

I wonder why it was such a big secret? I mean, Seeker had no problems accepting her responsibility and actions in this debacle of an incident that was intended to FTB.

Because what lawyer in their right mind would post that many details on a horse forum?

[Sdel]

@hut-ho78

Her SS complaint was for verbal non physical abuse.

Claiming MB was teaching a boy, and not just any random boy either, to sexually harass/abuse girls would meet those standards. Verbal - check, sexual - check.

[SillyHorse]

@trubandloki

@Sdel

I wonder why it was such a big secret? I mean, Seeker had no problems accepting her responsibility and actions in this debacle of an incident that was intended to FTB.

Because what lawyer in their right mind would post that many details on a horse forum?

Possibly one who taught LK everything mean, spiteful, petty, dangerous, and awful she knows?