MB update

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

Nope. She’s still an active member. Just not posted since late June.

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@BigMama1

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MB had a magazine with 9 more rounds in his pocket and could have changed that magazine in seconds. RG tackled a man much larger than himself and held him until the arrival of LE. He could have killed him but he did not. He restrained himself. At that time MB was an active shooter. No one knows how many people an active shooter will shoot if not stopped.

Except we don’t know if any of that is true. There is no forensic evidence to show that MB fired a gun at all. Was there a second magazine in his pocket? I thought one mysteriously appeared in the backseat of a police car? We don’t know if RG tackled MB and restrained him, or ambushed and attacked him. Certainly he caused grave injury to MB. We have no evidence at all that it was self defence.

Absent the conveniently missing / deleted / never recorded videos from the security cameras, we only have RG and LK’s stories to go on - stories which wildly conflict with each other, from two proven liars who struggle with addiction. The only other person who could provide clarity has no memory of the incident because (a) he was suffering a psychiatric break due to the other two at the time and (b) he was beaten senseless by at least one and possibly both of the other two.

Why would you accept RG’s version of events as true without question?

One of the first 3 LE testified he pulled the magazine out of MB’s pocket. When LE arrived, RG was restraining MB.

MB was the last person to have control of RC’s Ruger. The defense, the prosecutor, the mental health experts, and the jury (NGRI-beyond a reasonable doubt MB shot LK, preponderance of belief that he was insane at the time) all believed MB was the shooter. MB is much larger than RG and in superb condition as an athlete and he was armed.

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@Virginia_Horse_Mom

@BigMama1

Why would you accept RG’s version of events as true without question?

Obviously the jury who sat through the entire trial and listened to all the evidence DIDN’T accept RG’s version of events. They found MB straight up NG on all of the RG related charges.

They found MB not guilty for those charges because the prosecutor didn’t prove MB shot at RG beyond a reasonable doubt. That RG stopped MB, subdued him, refrained from killing him was witnessed by LE.

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@Sdel

@BigMama1

Why would you accept RG’s version of events as true without question?

RG is out there on SM saying he called 911. One has to question how well he knows what happened too.

Is that him or LK posting as him?

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@BigMama1

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MB had a magazine with 9 more rounds in his pocket and could have changed that magazine in seconds. RG tackled a man much larger than himself and held him until the arrival of LE. He could have killed him but he did not. He restrained himself. At that time MB was an active shooter. No one knows how many people an active shooter will shoot if not stopped.

Except we don’t know if any of that is true. There is no forensic evidence to show that MB fired a gun at all. Was there a second magazine in his pocket? I thought one mysteriously appeared in the backseat of a police car? We don’t know if RG tackled MB and restrained him, or ambushed and attacked him. Certainly he caused grave injury to MB. We have no evidence at all that it was self defence.

Absent the conveniently missing / deleted / never recorded videos from the security cameras, we only have RG and LK’s stories to go on - stories which wildly conflict with each other, from two proven liars who struggle with addiction. The only other person who could provide clarity has no memory of the incident because (a) he was suffering a psychiatric break due to the other two at the time and (b) he was beaten senseless by at least one and possibly both of the other two.

Why would you accept RG’s version of events as true without question?

One of the first 3 LE testified he pulled the magazine out of MB’s pocket. When LE arrived, RG was restraining MB.

MB was the last person to have control of RC’s Ruger. The defense, the prosecutor, the mental health experts, and the jury (NGRI-beyond a reasonable doubt MB shot LK, preponderance of belief that he was insane at the time) all believed MB was the shooter. MB is much larger than RG and in superb condition as an athlete and he was armed.

Okay. I disagree completely, but you expected my disagreement.

Can we move on now? The criminal trial is over. What you and I believe and/or disagree about is completely irrelevant.

RG definitely is a fine upstanding righteousness man who, with all his experience, was unable to simply open a door to a dryer or unplug it. Hmmm. Interesting. Now, come on and defend that inaction, okay?

The subject of this thread is MB UPDATE presumably about the rescheduled hearing. Do you have anything to contribute to that topic?

[Knights_Mom]

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@BigMama1

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MB had a magazine with 9 more rounds in his pocket and could have changed that magazine in seconds. RG tackled a man much larger than himself and held him until the arrival of LE. He could have killed him but he did not. He restrained himself. At that time MB was an active shooter. No one knows how many people an active shooter will shoot if not stopped.

Except we don’t know if any of that is true. There is no forensic evidence to show that MB fired a gun at all. Was there a second magazine in his pocket? I thought one mysteriously appeared in the backseat of a police car? We don’t know if RG tackled MB and restrained him, or ambushed and attacked him. Certainly he caused grave injury to MB. We have no evidence at all that it was self defence.

Absent the conveniently missing / deleted / never recorded videos from the security cameras, we only have RG and LK’s stories to go on - stories which wildly conflict with each other, from two proven liars who struggle with addiction. The only other person who could provide clarity has no memory of the incident because (a) he was suffering a psychiatric break due to the other two at the time and (b) he was beaten senseless by at least one and possibly both of the other two.

Why would you accept RG’s version of events as true without question?

One of the first 3 LE testified he pulled the magazine out of MB’s pocket. When LE arrived, RG was restraining MB.

MB was the last person to have control of RC’s Ruger. The defense, the prosecutor, the mental health experts, and the jury (NGRI-beyond a reasonable doubt MB shot LK, preponderance of belief that he was insane at the time) all believed MB was the shooter. MB is much larger than RG and in superb condition as an athlete and he was armed.

Yeah we’re not buying it. None of it. MB was jumped. The magazine was found in the cop cars back seat yet no one put it there. Unless RG put it there.

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@hut-ho78

That RG stopped MB, subdued him, refrained from killing him was witnessed by LE.

In what movie is this true? Heymer didn’t “witness” any such thing and you know it. Heymer witnessed a man pummeling another man to the point of unconsciousness. That’s ALL he witnessed.

Can you stay on topic please?

[Knights_Mom]

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@Virginia_Horse_Mom

@BigMama1

Why would you accept RG’s version of events as true without question?

Obviously the jury who sat through the entire trial and listened to all the evidence DIDN’T accept RG’s version of events. They found MB straight up NG on all of the RG related charges.

They found MB not guilty for those charges because the prosecutor didn’t prove MB shot at RG beyond a reasonable doubt. That RG stopped MB, subdued him, refrained from killing him was witnessed by LE.

Your interpretation. Not mine. RG and LK jumped MB. LK had commanded Finish The Bastard.

[Sdel]

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@Sdel

@BigMama1

Why would you accept RG’s version of events as true without question?

RG is out there on SM saying he called 911. One has to question how well he knows what happened too.

Is that him or LK posting as him?

Well, a first person account would be a little problematic for LK to make while posing as RG wouldn’t it?

[Knights_Mom]

LK states she lies on social media.

And once more LK allies bring the conversation back to the incident. The next post by HH will accuse us of discussing LK again like big fat meanies.

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@eggbutt

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@BigMama1

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MB had a magazine with 9 more rounds in his pocket and could have changed that magazine in seconds. RG tackled a man much larger than himself and held him until the arrival of LE. He could have killed him but he did not. He restrained himself. At that time MB was an active shooter. No one knows how many people an active shooter will shoot if not stopped.

Except we don’t know if any of that is true. There is no forensic evidence to show that MB fired a gun at all. Was there a second magazine in his pocket? I thought one mysteriously appeared in the backseat of a police car? We don’t know if RG tackled MB and restrained him, or ambushed and attacked him. Certainly he caused grave injury to MB. We have no evidence at all that it was self defence.

Absent the conveniently missing / deleted / never recorded videos from the security cameras, we only have RG and LK’s stories to go on - stories which wildly conflict with each other, from two proven liars who struggle with addiction. The only other person who could provide clarity has no memory of the incident because (a) he was suffering a psychiatric break due to the other two at the time and (b) he was beaten senseless by at least one and possibly both of the other two.

Why would you accept RG’s version of events as true without question?

One of the first 3 LE testified he pulled the magazine out of MB’s pocket. When LE arrived, RG was restraining MB.

MB was the last person to have control of RC’s Ruger. The defense, the prosecutor, the mental health experts, and the jury (NGRI-beyond a reasonable doubt MB shot LK, preponderance of belief that he was insane at the time) all believed MB was the shooter. MB is much larger than RG and in superb condition as an athlete and he was armed.

Okay. I disagree completely, but you expected my disagreement.

Can we move on now? The criminal trial is over. What you and I believe and/or disagree about is completely irrelevant.

RG definitely is a fine upstanding righteousness man who, with all his experience, was unable to simply open a door to a dryer or unplug it. Hmmm. Interesting. Now, come on and defend that inaction, okay?

The subject of this thread is MB UPDATE presumably about the rescheduled hearing. Do you have anything to contribute to that topic?

Now you start scolding naughty posters for straying off topic? Ok fine.

I hope MB’s hearing goes well for him and the outcome is the best for his coolers healing.

I hope the civil case settles quietly and privately.

I hope MB and LK return to riding and training and neither interact with people that can trigger any type of PTSD or other issues.

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@Knights_Mom

LK states she lies on social media.

And once more LK allies bring the conversation back to the incident. The next post by HH will accuse us of discussing LK again like big fat meanies.

I would not call anyone names anymore. I can’t top the one I already used that is now living in perpetuity on the Go Fund Me page.

[Knights_Mom]

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@Knights_Mom

LK states she lies on social media.

And once more LK allies bring the conversation back to the incident. The next post by HH will accuse us of discussing LK again like big fat meanies.

I would not call anyone names anymore. I can’t top the one I already used that is now living in perpetuity on the Go Fund Me page.

Not what I was speaking of but whatever.

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NJ v. Michael Barisone Trial Day 6 - Direct/Cross/Redirect of Det. Jason Gould -...

Around 1:00:00 is officer Henley’s discussion of searching MB, giving the magazine to SGT Bickham, and watching him put it on the trunk of Officer Fellini’s patrol car.

[Warmblood1]

The criminal trial is OVER.

This thread is about Mb’s upcoming hearing.

Move on.

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@Warmblood1

The criminal trial is OVER.

This thread is about Mb’s upcoming hearing.

Move on.

Well the topic would have one think so but it’s been about RG and LK bashing and really cute dogs and being defensive about derogatory terms for a certain family and the past trial and the same people being confused about NGRI vs GBI vs NG. You’ve done a variety of posts yourself.

[Sdel]

Careful, your starting to look like someone on YT….

[Knights_Mom]

As I predicted.

[MorganSercu]

Constant vigilance is necessary when on Squire L. Patrol.

[MorganSercu]

As promised - anatomy Show & Tell