Ive also been told the story of Ribot and how he attacked his fence and that poor ol tree in his paddock when he would see other horses! LOL
Yearās ago we saw Foolish Pleasure when he was at stud. We were also warned to stay well back from the fence as he was known for being vicious and had hurt several people badly we were told.
I would not put up with any aggressive behavior. Off would come the nuts and if that didnāt help, they would be in a hole. No horse is worth risking someoneās life to deal with.
Ive also been told the story of Ribot and how he attacked his fence and that poor ol tree in his paddock when he would see other horses! LOL
Im not quite sure WHAT Iād do if I looked out and saw my stallion hanging from a tree and crashing to the ground ā¦ :eek: 
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Throw clumps of mud at him???
Turn a hose on him???
I guess Iād probably cut down the tree too ā¦ :lol:
I would not put up with any aggressive behavior. Off would come the nuts and if that didnāt help, they would be in a hole. No horse is worth risking someoneās life to deal with.
Well ā¦ I guess its a whole 'nuther ballgame when an owner owns a valuable race stallion that generates mucho dineroās and its up to the hapless grooms and stallion manager to deal with him and whatever aggressions and quirks he might possess
AT $50,000 / $100,000 / $250,000 / +++ a booking x 50 / 75 / 100 bookings a year - believe me - if Groom āAā doesnt want to deal with Studly there are others that will. And the race Mare Owners dont give a rats patootie if the foal comes out as the devil reincarnate either - as long as it runs fast, makes money for them and/or sells for mucho dineroās at the Yearling Sale, they could care less how many fingers Junior tries to bite off by his first birthday ā¦
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I would not put up with any aggressive behavior. Off would come the nuts and if that didnāt help, they would be in a hole. No horse is worth risking someoneās life to deal with.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I donāt think theyāll be doing that with Dynaformer anytime soon. 
Well, I guess Iāll never make it as a race breeder then but I genuinely would not keep a stallion like that regardless of what his stud fees were. As much as I love my horsesā¦I just could not know that people were risking injury to deal with a rank dangerous horse just so I could make money off of it.
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Well ā¦ I guess its a whole 'nuther ballgame when an owner owns a valuable race stallion that generates mucho dineroās and its up to the hapless grooms and stallion manager to deal with him and whatever aggressions and quirks he might possess
AT $50,000 / $100,000 / $250,000 / +++ a booking x 50 / 75 / 100 bookings a year - believe me - if Groom āAā doesnt want to deal with Studly there are others that will. And the race Mare Owners dont give a rats patootie if the foal comes out as the devil reincarnate either - as long as it runs fast, makes money for them and/or sells for mucho dineroās at the Yearling Sale, they could care less how many fingers Junior tries to bite off by his first birthday ā¦[/QUOTE]
Yup, as long as itās someone ELSES fingers getting bitten off, itās all fine and dandy :lol:
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Yeah, I donāt think theyāll be doing that with Dynaformer anytime soon.
Nope. Not at $150,000 a pop!
And why does it not surprise me one iota that Dynaformer has Ribot back in the 3rd generation?!
At least looking on the bright side, as bad as he might be, he hasnt started climbing trees yet ā¦ :lol:
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Well, I guess Iāll never make it as a race breederā¦[/QUOTE]
Well, no. Didnāt think you were, anyway.
As an aside, Iām sure there are plenty of people OUTSIDE of racing who have nasty stallions that they donāt geld/kill.
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There was a thread on this over on the Racing Forum a while back, and pretty much all of Robertoās great sire sons were SOBs. He and Halo had the same sireāHail To Reason.
Story about Ribot was that he had a brain tumor which was discovered after he died.[/QUOTE]
My horse has Hail To Reason and Best Turn (both by Turn-To) and he is basically a cuddle bunny. Some of his other ancestors must of nixed the nastiness. But sometimes itās not totally scientific, right? Youāll get some nice horse out of the nasties and some nasties out of the nice ones.
And then Iām sure there are some mean horses that are not genetically predisposed to aggressiveness. Itās that nature vs. nurture argument. Or, like in Ribotās case, it could be something physical, like, in his case, a brain tumor.
I have to say that while these stallions may be extreme cases, I have known some pretty nasty geldings and mares as well. I had one gelding that would kick and lunge/bite with his ears pricked forward looking purely happy to see you (he would also pen people in the wash rack or against walls). But boy was he talented. It is the level of talent that saves these type of horses IMO. When they are talented and win many people will put up with a lot. I remember being stabled down the aisle from a grand prix jumper stallion one winter that they had the rider mount in the stall as he was such a handful. Personally I probably wouldnāt have kept that one a stud, but it was hard to argue with his talent as a performance horse.
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Horse Attacks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uL9OAudSCGo[/QUOTE]
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I remember hearing about a stallion that was normally easy to handle turning on his handler on the way to the breeding shed, ripped her throat out and killed her.
Couple of years ago at an event in Louisiana or Arkansas, a horse turned on his vet owner in the stall and killed her. He was a gelding. I think he kicked her in just the wrong place. I have no idea if he was normally nasty or not, but he did kill her.
I know one that was and was told the story about anotherā¦
Years ago I was at Glenwood Farms for a short time. She had Diamont, who was pretty nice, but they had a 3yo son of his, that was a HOLY TERROR, you carried a whip into the paddock, and sometimes that wasnāt even enough. To top it off though, when he did that to me, it was my fault, but when he did it to the German working student, the boy was playingā¦
I was told that jockeys drew straws to see who got to ride DASH FOR CASH, the winner of the drawing was actually the loser STUCK riding him. I was told he won most of his races, of course, but would tuck his head, and buck like a saddle bronc, the second he was across the finish line.[QUOTE=kitsunegari;4517648]
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I remember hearing about a stallion that was normally easy to handle turning on his handler on the way to the breeding shed, ripped her throat out and killed her.[/QUOTE]
Was he a lion or a pitbull? Thatās weird for a horse, a flight animal, to go for the jugular.
All of this is so strange to me. Horses are herbivores, flight animals. I am not saying I donāt believe it - itās just Iāve only owned the sweetest horses, and cannot picture any of them turning on me.
I think some horses are just mean (Halo and his bird killing stuff was just weird - I kind of remember someone telling me about seeing a Spanish breed stallion kill and take a munchy bit of a chicken) but I also wonder how often bad reps come from things like bad handling coupled with physical issues like bad ulcers or something like Ribotās purported brain tumor (I think his early Italian reports noted him having a pretty decent temperament)
I saw some wild asses fightnig on tv (where I get a lot of my 'knowledge"!) and the one stallion had the other on the ground, was kneeling on it and definitely looked like it was aiming for the jugular with its mouth wide open.
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Was he a lion or a pitbull? Thatās weird for a horse, a flight animal, to go for the jugular.
All of this is so strange to me. Horses are herbivores, flight animals. I am not saying I donāt believe it - itās just Iāve only owned the sweetest horses, and cannot picture any of them turning on me.[/QUOTE]
Unfortunately I watched this once when looking for foal footage. It is very graphic and very disturbing. But it does serve as a reminder that they are capable. It also reminds me of how generous of nature most of them are when they deal people.
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=stallion+meets+foal&search_type=&aq=0&oq=stallion+mee
There was also footage of a mule killing a mountain lion, that was going around. I think he belonged to an outfitter.
He was not very nice even as a baby. He apparently was a bear to harness, and the devil to hitch but nice gaited and appeared to be decent to drive. He has two lines of, um, well, not very nice in his pedigree. Top side, Starās Pride (sire) was apparently not the most pleasant thing around and passed it on. Bottom side, Calumet Chuck, sire of the third dam, also sired the delight known as Titan Hanover, and that temperament came down through Titan Hanoverās offspring too. Thing is, we put up with a lot in those days and we still do put up with some abberations in behaviour and learn to deal with it.
I also know someone that nearly lost an arm to a stallion - routine, leading the horse to his corral, and horse turned on him. This man has been dealing with entires for as long as I have known him, and that is a good many years. This was also a quiet, well-behaved horse, but something set him off.
