'member the *old* days?

:cool: Am talkin’ the 1960’s, when probably most of the current crop of COTHERS started playing with horses, and earning their spurs. Off the top:

All saddles were either Argentines, or Stubbens, and all saddles came with standard, regular gullet widths. If the pommel sat too low on the wither, you padded up. Bad fitting saddles sported breast plates.

All bits were loose ring snaffles, egg butt or full cheek. No fulmers. Pelhams were mullet mouthed, and steel or rubber. Kimberwickes were used sometimes, but mostly all bridles were either snaffle or full, with a bradoon and curb.

Bridles were 5/8ths, or 3/4ths width, in the field. No such thing as padded anything.

Saddle pads were REAL sheepskin, and inexpensive! Even I could afford them back then!

Girths were all leather three-fold, with NO elastic on the ends, nor were there any roller buckles - you had to really muscle it up, and scrape the heck out of your billets.

Shin boots were “galloping boots”. Always leather, always had buckles. Bell boots were leather too, and secured with strips of leather through tiny metal keeper thingees.

We could all ride without helmets anywhere; at shows you had to wear that black velver hunt cap in the classes, but it had an elastic throat band that everyone always kept up over the bill.

Leg wraps on the horses. Had to use safety pins. Remember all the blistering and firing of the legs for any reason, not just for buckd shins on race horses? ACK!

Jump on in everybody! What do you remember about those grand old days?

“Most?” I get the feeling at times I’m one of the ‘average’ age, and I’m 32. I wasn’t born in the 1960s.

And I assume you mean “mullen” mouth. Unless the bits have Billy Ray Cyrus’s old haircut… :wink:

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Pre-velcro days and those bandage pins! I was wrapping legs in a TB racing barn, and I’d be running around with my pants leg sporting a row of pins so they’d be easy to grab as I was crouched down doing legs. I don’t miss those days at all, and it probably contributed to the crappy knees I have now!

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I was there! Helmets were for looks and only worn at shows. ASTM? No such thing. Boots were boxy looking unless you could afford Dehners. Bridles, flat leather. Reins, leather too. Sheets were cotton. Or wool. Jods or breeches were cotton and had the fat thigh shape like in the military. Saddles, yes, I had an Argentine. Actually compared to some saddles today it was pretty well made! We had less fear back then. Rode bareback a lot more. Horses were pets instead of status symbols to many of us. We looked up to Chapot and Steinkraus to show us good eq. Thoroughbreds were big in bone and elegant. No such thing as a million warmblood breeds! And the heat did not deter us from riding all day during the summer. We learned to be true horsemen!

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pins on wraps? :eek:

ours had stings sewn on…you had to make sure to roll that end up first or you’s be in trouble…but that was in the late 70s…

Heh, I remember using DMSO without gloves for many issues… and then tasting it in my mouth 3 seconds later…

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{gag} on the DMSO - even today I can taste it just by reading the word! : P

My memories:
*envying the kids who had the madras plaid cotton huntcoats for Summer…as I sweated in my black wool hand-me-down

*being told to suck it up and jump “It’s just a 4’ fence!” on a school horse who inverted over fences and broke my nose with his neck

*riding double bareback - helmetless, of course - in shorts on the trails that bordered a subdivision’s backyards and crossed a highway at one point

*raking straw from stalls and spreading it to dry for reuse after it sat in the sun all day - this part of a “Summer Camp” that (looking back) basically used us lesson kids as slave labor. We.loved.every.minute!

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boy is this ever timely. i just put my 36 yo love down on july 5 and in reminiscing
about what we used to do 25 years ago (when i first got him), we consider ourselves very lucky to have had some of the experiences that we did. soo many of the trails we used to explore for hours are now houses. also, being able to ride for hours without seeing another person was taken for granted. a couple of the school barns i worked at, would let the ‘help’ ride the schoolies in exchange for mucking stalls and we would head out and have a blast. if a horse was lame, a cold hose and a bute would be the standard treatment. if the lameness persisted, you wrapped it (yes with safety pins holding them in place) and used a poultice.
ulcers weren’t even considered. my friend had an ottb and if we only knew about ulcergard/gastrogard back then, her (and the horses) life would have been sooo much better.
sigh.

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Bells elixir for colic. Motor oil for hoof dressing. T and A $3.00 a bale. Dreaming of that Stubben while riding in my Borelli. Tack stores didn’t carry anything “dressage”. I remember the bandage pins (took me awhile to figure out why I was getting strange looks when I’d run to the store with a line of them down the side of my pants) after punk rock, no one seemed to notice. LOL:lol:

I was there. The vet came and tube wormed your horse, the blacksmith did a trim and a re-set of shoes for $15.
Molimentum was THE hoof dressing to use.
Riding boots actually looked GOOD–not the skin tight ankle hugging things used today. AND you could re-sole them.
And yes, the Stubben. My dream saddle. I only had an Argentine saddle that my father bought for me on one of his trips to Argentina.
Bridles were substantial and not the itty bitty skinny pieces of leather you find today. (luckily, you can still find a real bridle at Bartville…)
Horse shows had outside courses and handy hunter classes
Full board meant people took care of your horse for you. That’s what you paid them for. If the horse needed extra feed, he got it, if he needed his blanket on or off, it got taken on or off. If the blacksmith came, your horse got held. You didn’t pay extra for the care of your horse. That’s what full board meant

Times sure are different!

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I rode sporadically in those days but I remember:

no saddle pads–you cleaned your tack everytime you rode

coops were the easy “default” jump

outside courses

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My mom rode a lot in the '60s through the '70s.
She is constantly expressing surprise at how important saddle fit is these days. “Nobody even THOUGHT about the saddle fitting the horse back then! All our horses were fine! If your horse’s back hurt after a long day of showing then you used a fluffier pad the next day and everyone was fine.
She recognises that horses perform better in properly fitting tack, but the huge attitude shift awes her.
And the cost of everything. :lol:
Her top of the line Swiss made saddle cost $500 in the early '70s, “and that was a lot!

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THE MILLER’S CATALOG! I even remember the address - 123 East 24th St, NY, NY. And waiting with bated breath for the mailman to show up with the GROOMING KIT I asked for for my birthday. It included a curry comb, 2 brushes - a stiff one to clean and a soft one to “finish”, a hoof pick (the little metal ones, painted either red or blue on the bottom) and a rub rag.:wink: And going to Miller’s after seeing the National Horse Show at Madison Square Garden.:cool:

I also remember riding double bareback, and jumping the outside course at the barn (sometimes double bareback!:eek:).

Steinkraus’s, “Riding and Jumping”? with all the international riders - the D’Inzos? and their horses creeping over the tops of those puissance fences?

I remember when EIA was “swamp fever” and it tore through our barn and several horses died, including my best friend’s beautiful bay thoroughbred filly.:cry:

Working for lessons. Lessons were $2 a half hour, $3 an hour, or $5 for private!! Board was $50 then went up to $70. Work included everything from rounding up the horses and bringing them down from night pasture, feeding, haying, grooming and tacking them up for the beginners, cleaning stalls, taking tourists out on trail rides, and painting the fences.

Making forts out of the hay bales in the hay mow.:slight_smile:

Our stable owner took us swimming in the afternoon in the back of their van, which was an aluminum box painted with a horse scene painted by Sam Savitt! He’d always smoke a cigar along the way, and that’s the only time I’ve loved the smell of a cigar…

Going to horseshows held by auxiliaires, VFWs, fire departments, and then we all worked at the big recognized show at the end of the summer. And it was a big deal to get a ribbon at any of the recognized shows. Then hoping it was a 1st - 4th so that your name would show up in THE CHRONICLE!:cool:

BLACK AND WHITE CHRONICLES! Someone I know wallpapered their bathroom with them.:cool:

There would be one final show in the fall, and then the horses were put up for the winter. No indoors - and what fun it would be when spring came around and we had to work the beans out of them again!:lol:

Anybody wish to know why I’ve never liked having to grow up?:lol:
And I can remember all this, but who is it I’m supposed to return a call to today???:winkgrin:

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Oh, yeah! I’d forgotten that - you’d have the vet out to tube worm them once a year! Float teeth only if they were skinny or quidding their feed.

Ha, I used motor oil on their feet too. Then Absorbine hoof dressing. A full set of shoes was like $40.00. Only 5 to 8 bucks a foot for a trim.

FULL BOARD! Wow, I kept my jumper at a stable were she had a stall, turn out, any other need attended to, like blanketing, all for $50.00 a month, and this was right in the middle of hunt/show country, perfect location. We had a lovely large cross country course with all the regulation fences at small, large and working hunter heights. Big well maintained outdoor ring, with tons of show jumps whose standards went up to 6 foot. No indoor, but who cared? Us kids rode in all weather all the time, anywhere, bareback, with just a halter and lead. No adults hovered nearby, no one made anyone sign a waiver, no one had a “trainer”. Certainly no one was ever told they couldn’t ride their horse unless the “trainer” was right there… are you kidding? It was seat-of-your-pants all the way, everyone was self taught, only took lessons if they wanted to go to rated shows and even then most just watched top riders and read good books on the topics of their interest. Sigh. Where did those days go?

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Back in the 70’s lessons were only $5 and you were responsible for catching your horse in the pasture where the wild dogs lived.

And after our lesson we would tie up the horses to the molasses lick. A giant tank filled with molasses with a rolling bar that as the horses licked it it would roll bringing up the molasses.

I still have one of those velvet riding hemets with the elastic strap. :wink:

Transported the pony in Mom & Dad’s VW bus. :lol:

How many times we got blood blown on us when the vet tube wormed the horses.

I’m western but I did have a Borelli.

Back in the day, I actually rode my horses for training and to send them to a “trainer” was almost unheard of.

There were ring snaffles, curbs and spades. That’s it. Oh, and jaquimas. Later was the mechanical hack.

Only dressed western.

Almost all horses were shod, hardly any barefoot.

Almost all saddles had a round skirt and bullhide covered trees. Usually a basket pattern. Oak was for sissies.

Spurs were made to order.

Worming consisted of either chewing tobacky or powdered, in apple flavor later on.

I don’t remember how much a shoe set cost, I’m thinking $20…?

NOTHING stopped us from riding, nothing.

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If I recall correctly, I think my first horseshow was around 1959. :eek:

I remember winning enough at horseshows (western) to pay the entries, stall, travel, hotel, food, trainer expenses, and still come home with money in my pocket. Today I can win every class in my division and not be able to even cover the entries.

You didn’t have to be rich to enjoy horse sports at a pretty high level. We could send 3 or 4 horses down the road to show for what it costs to send 1 horse today.

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Ahhhh, I remember tube worming twice a year, got sheathes cleaned at the same time!

The Miller catalog was so fantastic

Stubben saddles being recognized widely for being the fantastic saddles that they are. Borellis, Keifers, Crosby, Hermes…

There was a horse section in the Sears catalog, even Marshall Field’s had an equestrian section… I have a wonderful MF saddle… they were custom made.

Along with rotary phones, no seatbelts, no computers, no internet… etc etc.

I am at the age where one can say to the young’uns… “I have forgotten about more than you even know”

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i still have my blue velvet helmet with the elastic strap. we used to use to cheap, rag woven little floor mats folded in half for saddle pads.

still have my first leather halter. remember taking my first lessons on Nobby, the toothless horse and Tiny, the giant orange appy draft cross.

i also remember that teaching kids how to fall (emergency dismount) safely was part of the first couple lessons.

Horse tack from Sears. The Bob Ragsdale collection. Remember it well!

Strangly my first horse training book was “Winning Your Spurs”, even though I’m wester.

When we went to a show, we rode there. I rode about two miles to the rodeo grounds. Rode about 10 miles to ride in the town parade. Then road back home.

4-H was the bomb. Had true horsewomwen teaching us. No coddling, just better listen and keep up.

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