Michael Gill is back - is he good for racing?

CajunRider - pretty sure the “grudge” reference was in regards to BigHoss’s comment. Everyone in the racing industry knows what kind of person Gill is. :wink:

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Are you talking about “grudges” against Michael Gill?[/QUOTE]

No - rather assorted trolls who have surfaced and target other folks who post.

[QUOTE=bighoss;3976716]
I know a few years ago your husband was sucking up pretty good trying to get a training job with him which he was never offered.[/QUOTE]

Obviously you have your facts wrong on this one… nice try though.

Try reading page 9 post 173 of this thread for a little enlightenment…

http://www.chronicleforums.com/Forum/showthread.php?p=3345128#post3345128

And there are even posts I made in this thread last year.

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CajunRider - pretty sure the “grudge” reference was in regards to BigHoss’s comment. Everyone in the racing industry knows what kind of person Gill is. ;)[/QUOTE]

So does everyone in TB rescue

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So does everyone in TB rescue[/QUOTE]

I consider those in TB rescue to be a very important part of the racing industry :yes::yes:

Ok… claiming from a kid is pretty dang low, even for me. But instead of running to the press, why don’t they just claim her back now that she’s outta jail and back down to her original price? I’m going to be a little irked if that doesn’t happen.

But then, I’ve got $10 saying the mare will scratch…

There is one Gill filly on the AC4H Broker pages- Sentimental Lisa (the lighter bay) the darker filly Flying Fortress came in with her but has a different owner listed…

http://www.ac4h.com/BrokerOwned4.htm

Hey BigHoss…I think if your initials are TC, and you worked for MG, and now you work at SD, then you of all people would know that DP went to CT to take over the failing operation of TA because you recommended DP for the job…and then the plug got pulled (on you too) :slight_smile:

By the way my husband (who does not suck up, he is just really a nice guy) says whats UP?

[QUOTE=Texarkana;3978110]
Ok… claiming from a kid is pretty dang low, even for me. But instead of running to the press, why don’t they just claim her back now[QUOTE]

Because Gill ruins most of the horses he claims. The numbers bear this out.

[QUOTE=Acertainsmile;3977793]
Obviously you have your facts wrong on this one… nice try though.

Try reading page 9 post 173 of this thread for a little enlightenment…

http://www.chronicleforums.com/Forum/showthread.php?p=3345128#post3345128

And there are even posts I made in this thread last year.[/QUOTE]

I am the facts

That doesn’t even make sense.

[QUOTE=bighoss;3981221]
I am the facts[/QUOTE]

I know exactly who you are…that’s what has me a little befuddled.

My husband was in that barn and was paid (in cash of course) until they shut down…also learned from previous trainer just HOW much you could steal without being caught. Extra people on the payroll, cases of Clem in the trunks of cars, you get the picture…

Or maybe you don’t, because you weren’t around personally to SEE it…and wasn’t that part of YOUR job? Or am I mistaken about that too?

Anyway, everything is for the best, IMO my husband is way to honest for that operation. You know, you seemed like an alright guy, the nasty remark to me was uncalled for, but a troll is a troll I guess.

Have a nice day!

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There is one Gill filly on the AC4H Broker pages- Sentimental Lisa (the lighter bay) the darker filly Flying Fortress came in with her but has a different owner listed…

http://www.ac4h.com/BrokerOwned4.htm[/QUOTE]

I was Googling Sentimental Lisa to find more information on her, and stumbled upon this thread. As of yesterday, she is safe and sound in my barn as a foster for AC4H.

The vet was here today and she has quite the fever, and we heard the rasping in her throat. Thank you for the information on Gill and his myectomies. At least we might be able to cross the rasping sound off her current symptom list, knowing that.

What’s hilarious is that they’re not very good at being anonymous. Good trolls are true mysteries :yes:

Apparently Gill, like the three trainers that were banned at the end of the 2008 meet, has been allowed back in to Suffolk Downs this year. In just the first three days of racing, three horses had to be euthanized and two belonged to Gill. The track has even replaced “The Pit” where horses are killed, with a building. One has to wonder if the investment is in anticipation of the need to euthanize more horses or if it’s an attempt to address the problem they’ve had with coyotes eating the carcasses before they’re removed from the grounds.

Sounds like bad news

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Well Casual Conflict had - just after he was euthanized - his leg sawed off under Gill orders. You cannot for the love of jesus not tell me that wasn’t to cover something up.

Claiming races and horses in those ranks are a big chunk of the sport. Plenty of good folks are successful at claiming and make money without squeezing blood from a stone.

I don’t care for Gill and think he adds nothing to the sport in reputation or economics. As I recall reading in the last couple of months his mortgage firm in New Hampshire was under investigation. I wouldn’t doubt he runs his business like he does his racing.[/QUOTE]

I don’t know him, but from what I have just read on this thread, he sounds like a real low life. Hopefully, this time around he won’t last long training horses. He deserves to be removed for unscrupulous practices…

[QUOTE=USAGPJumper;4089425]
Apparently Gill, like the three trainers that were banned at the end of the 2008 meet, has been allowed back in to Suffolk Downs this year. In just the first three days of racing, three horses had to be euthanized and two belonged to Gill. The track has even replaced “The Pit” where horses are killed, with a building. One has to wonder if the investment is in anticipation of the need to euthanize more horses or if it’s an attempt to address the problem they’ve had with coyotes eating the carcasses before they’re removed from the grounds.[/QUOTE]

You’ve got to be fing kidding me!!! Let’s get our facts straight. We have very unfortunately lost 3 horses, you are correct there. But… The first horse was a beloved, old (at least 25 years) pony. The trainer found him dead of an apparant heart attack. The second horse that was lost was put down because of a bad infection in his leg. The third horse that was put down just shipped up from Fl and got sick, beyond help. None of these horses were Gills. As far as the pit goes, the EPA forced SD to replace it with a building. For whatever reason, the EPA has been a pita the last year. Get your facts straight before you start spewing crap.

[QUOTE=USAGPJumper;4089425]
Apparently Gill, like the three trainers that were banned at the end of the 2008 meet, has been allowed back in to Suffolk Downs this year. In just the first three days of racing, three horses had to be euthanized and two belonged to Gill. The track has even replaced “The Pit” where horses are killed, with a building. One has to wonder if the investment is in anticipation of the need to euthanize more horses or if it’s an attempt to address the problem they’ve had with coyotes eating the carcasses before they’re removed from the grounds.[/QUOTE]

Gill was never asked to leave suffolk downs I noticed a lot of people on this forum talk a lot of smack please get the facts before you talk poop

Spook thank you for posting the facts of the situation. So sorry for those who lost their horses. As a reasonably intelligent adult I can hypothesize that Michael Gill did not cause an infection in the leg or a heart attack in a lead pony, nor do I believe he caused a horse to get sick when hauling up from Fla.

Trainer Harry Pease just lost his best best horse - a nice stakes quality horse - because it got sick when shipping north from Fla - he had to put it down as well. I dont think Michael Gill had anything to do with that one either. :wink: Not that I have ever met the man - he could be the devil incarnate for all I know - just approaching the facts with a rational mind.

I guess we are neverminding the fact that Gill was ruled off for 3 yrs in N.E…