Michael/ Lauren civil trial update February 9

[skydy]

@eggbutt

I don’t disagree. That said, I can imagine members of that team and/or previous participants who are now vocal about injustices might be interested in the shenanigans in Michael’s case.

I think that most of the people working on the Innocence Project still have their noses to the grindstone. There are far to many innocent people that have been convicted of crimes they may well not have committed, and they have been unjustly incarcerated for decades, many are also facing capital punishment.

Mental health advocates in the legal profession might be interested in Barisone’s case, but the Innocence Project has more pressing issues to deal with. I have the impression that Barisone’s legal team is competent, and they have probably explored every option available to him under the law.

[3PonyFarm]

On the new attorney’s filing, it says at the top that he is a certified civil trial attorney and civil trial specialist. What does that certification mean?

[ekat]

@3PonyFarm

On the new attorney’s filing, it says at the top that he is a certified civil trial attorney and civil trial specialist. What does that certification mean?

https://www.njcourts.gov/attorneys/certification

[3PonyFarm]

Thank you for posting that. I was curious what it meant.

[ekat]

You’re welcome.

[eggbutt]

This didn’t age well. I wonder what caused their change in opinion, or did Nagel come to his senses?

MB Civil Trial: JK/KK Contempt of Court?

That may be true….no excuse for bad grammar or spelling. But somehow NagelRice has been the #1 personal injury firm in NJ for winning money for their clients for many years in a row.

[trubandloki]

In keeping with the whole Kanarek family and how they are delaying the civil case that they brought, I found this post of Lauren’s so interesting.

Ignoring the whole first paragraph which only shows just how evil Lauren is (and so totally fits with the whole “Finish the Bastard” approach) but go to the second paragraph. (I mean, do read the first paragraph, because it is Lauren gold, but right now I am referencing the itty bitty second paragraph.)

When she is gloating in her youtube post(s) she is acting like she is all about getting the facts out there and moving forward with the civil case. I mean, isn’t that what “Let’s get on with that, shall we?” mean?

If she really wanted to get on with this why would her father, Jonathan Kanarek (@Inigo-montoya), and her mother, Kirby Kanarek (@Seeker1) once again be ignoring subpoenas asking for them to produce evidence for the civil trial? Heck, we can even go back to her deposition, which I am assuming has not happened yet, that she refused to sit for. One delay after another from the Kanareks.

Changing lawyers for the #1 rated lawyer, Bruce, to the new lawyer, GAS, is another fine example of them delaying things. I wonder how many more times GAS will file for an extension?

No one from the Kanarek side of this civil case are doing anything that shows they want to “Let’s get on with that, shall we?”. Their actions are the exact opposite of that.

So strange that Lauren’s words once again are so different than her actions.

[cutter99]

Seems like there are a whole bunch of posts that haven’t aged well!

[CanteringCarrot]

For real.

[eggbutt]

Yeah, no wonder they are delaying and delaying and delaying some more!

The best thing the Kanarek family can do is drop their suits to stop all the ugliness that will be produced that was prevented from being heard in the criminal trial. ALL of Lauren’s incendiary sm posts will be front and center along with her disturbing past behavior with others.

Of course that wouldn’t stop Michael Barisone from continuing to go after them for everything they have cost him since 2019. And guess what, I bet he has actual financial statements proving what he has lost due to the Finish the Bastard plan.

[MHM]

@eggbutt

The best thing the Kanarek family can do is drop their suits to stop all the ugliness that will be produced that was prevented from being heard in the criminal trial. ALL of Lauren’s incendiary sm posts will be front and center along with her disturbing past behavior with others.

Yes, just think of all the sidebars in the criminal trial, which mostly seemed to center around the judge preventing more information about LK’s actions and history from coming out. There must be a LOT of material there.

[Ambitious_Kate]

If they keep obfuscating, and delaying, and just not producing their evidence, can’t MBs lawyers just file for a dismissal? Or a demand to show proof of some kind?

[Omgitsme]

Does she though?

[trubandloki]

@Ambitious_Kate

If they keep obfuscating, and delaying, and just not producing their evidence, can’t MBs lawyers just file for a dismissal? Or a demand to show proof of some kind?

I am guessing the courts will give GAS time to catch up. Hopefully when he’s ready he won’t just be blowing hot air like Bruce.

[3PonyFarm]

What if the judge allowed the decision on the subpoenas until the case management conference and then the new attorney asked for a delay for the conference.
I hope the judge says that he already ruled on the subpoenas and as the new attorney does not represent the parents that his original order stands.

[EmilyM]

If the new attorney asked for a stay on subpoenas that are for people who are not his client, aren’t we right back to the beginning!

I don’t see how the answering of subpeonas by someone else’s clients should be relevant to new attorneys.

[trubandloki]

@EmilyM

I don’t see how the answering of subpeonas by someone else’s clients should be relevant to new attorneys.

They do things their own unique way there in NJ, clearly. Does NJ have some type of lawyer family plan rule, where if they are on file representing one person in the family they get to pretend it applies to the whole family?

In all honesty, I do not think anyone gets why lawyers not representing Kirby Kanarek (@Seeker1) and Jonathan Kanarek (@Inigo-montoya) are filing things on their behalf once again. Jonathan Kanarek is a freaking lawyer, there is no way he does not know this is just weird.

[DownYonder]

@trubandloki

I do not think anyone gets why lawyers not representing Kirby Kanarek (@Seeker1) and Jonathan Kanarek (@Inigo-montoya) are filing things on their behalf once again. Jonathan Kanarek is a freaking lawyer, there is no way he does not know this is just weird.

I’m guessing they don’t want to have to pay other attorneys to represent them. And other attorneys likely won’t be willing to take them on contingency because they are not the plaintiffs and do not stand to win anything if the suit goes their way. So those attorneys would have to depend on LK’s “good will” to pay for her parents’ legal expenses out of her “winnings.” I say, good luck with that angle.

[trubandloki]

@DownYonder

@trubandloki

I do not think anyone gets why lawyers not representing Kirby Kanarek (@Seeker1) and Jonathan Kanarek (@Inigo-montoya) are filing things on their behalf once again. Jonathan Kanarek is a freaking lawyer, there is no way he does not know this is just weird.

I’m guessing they don’t want to have to pay other attorneys to represent them. And other attorneys likely won’t be willing to take them on contingency because they are not the plaintiffs and do not stand to win anything if the suit goes their way. So those attorneys would have to depend on LK’s “good will” to pay for her parents’ legal expenses out of her “winnings.” I say, good luck with that angle.

I get all that, that Kirby and Jonathan do not want to pay for their own attorneys. Who would?
But, that does not make it logical that an attorney not representing them keeps filing things on their behalf and somehow that is OK in NJ.

[DownYonder]

@trubandloki

I get all that, that Kirby and Jonathan do not want to pay for their own attorneys. Who would?
But, that does not make it logical that an attorney not representing them keeps filing things on their behalf and somehow that is OK in NJ.

Agreed. I am also confused about why they continue to rely on an attorney that does not formally represent them, to “represent them.”

It could also be part of the reason behind the change in attorneys. Perhaps Nagel and O’Connor got fed up with their shenanigans (although I may be giving them way too much credit in that regard).

At any rate, I would hope that Sceusi gets on the new guy’s case about it, but for all I know, that practice is legal and acceptable in NJ.