Michael/ Lauren civil trial update February 9

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@trubandloki

So now I wonder…
If I bring my gun somewhere (say the gun range to practice), and I have to bring it back to my very own house, who is it that I have to get permission from to bring it there? And if I am bringing my gun to my own house that I assume no one will be at (since I am not there and no one else currently has permission to be there) and someone attacks me in my front yard and they get shot, it can not be self defense because I happen to have my gun on me, going to my house that I did not ask permission to take my gun to.
Is that the movie that is playing right now?

If you go to the gun range, when you return, you’d probably return the gun to the gun safe in your office where it’s normally stored. As long as you didn’t use it to shoot someone before locking in the safe, there’s no problem.

[cheval_convert]

Well, he could not have shot in self defense without a gun.

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

I’d like to take a brief moment to make a public appeal to Lollypop’s friends and family…

I’m sure she must be frustrated about having been repeatedly banned from the COTH forums, but it is not in her best interest for any of you to give her your login information. She just digs herself a deeper hole whenever she tries to argue about the situation.

Sincerely,

VHM

[jvanrens]

@Christa_P

My mobile home had popcorn ceilings when I bought it, and they were coated with cigarette smoke. I was able to scrape them and repaint them with Kilz and two coats of white paint. There was no way they were staying and adding another layer of drywall would have been much more expensive and more work.

I hope you had it tested first. A lot of that crap is asbestos containing.

[trubandloki]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@trubandloki

So now I wonder…
If I bring my gun somewhere (say the gun range to practice), and I have to bring it back to my very own house, who is it that I have to get permission from to bring it there? And if I am bringing my gun to my own house that I assume no one will be at (since I am not there and no one else currently has permission to be there) and someone attacks me in my front yard and they get shot, it can not be self defense because I happen to have my gun on me, going to my house that I did not ask permission to take my gun to.
Is that the movie that is playing right now?

If you go to the gun range, when you return, you’d probably return the gun to the gun safe in your office where it’s normally stored. As long as you didn’t use it to shoot someone before locking in the safe, there’s no problem.

So, in other words, you did not read what I wrote.

[trubandloki]

@jvanrens

@Christa_P

My mobile home had popcorn ceilings when I bought it, and they were coated with cigarette smoke. I was able to scrape them and repaint them with Kilz and two coats of white paint. There was no way they were staying and adding another layer of drywall would have been much more expensive and more work.

I hope you had it tested first. A lot of that crap is asbestos containing.

Before testing probably easier to simply say - what year was this built - oh, that is after asbestos was used for everything and anything.
(My living room has popcorn ceiling because that is what Mr. Trub wanted when the house was built. Not asbestos.)

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

I anticipate a passing of the baton any minute now…

[eggbutt]

This reminds me of @CurrentlyHorseless (the little boy). She just keeps coming back for more, yet she knows no one nor does she communicate with anyone involved! Uh-huh!

https://images.app.goo.gl/txf11umXnSW4UdBX6

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@eggbutt

@CurrentlyHorseless

@MHM

@CurrentlyHorseless

She was shot on SGF property with a gun provided by RC.

Shot by whom? Rosie?

There’s as much physical evidence that Rosie did it as MB.

In terms of liability assessed against RC and SGF for the presence of the gun on the property, it doesn’t even matter who shot LK, just that she was shot.

So, just pretend for a moment (should be easy for you) that RG finally saw his opportunity to rid himself of the anchor around his neck and actually shot LK all by himself with whatever gun. Would that automatically make it an SGF problem? I mean everyone in NC knows those two fight like rabid dogs! No wonder he frequently “disappears” for a little R&R, just like he did as sweetums lay “dying” in her coma the days after the incident. Why on earth was RG anywhere near Newark Airport, and not the nice side of town either? Lots of questions will be brought up now that the sympathetic Taylor won’t be able to do JK’s bidding. Occam’s razor for sure

SGF is being sued for creating a hazardous situation by permitting guns on the property, and perhaps for leasing the property to a mentally unstable trainer.

RC is being sued for providing the gun.

The plaintiff will try to hold SGF and RC liable regardless of who used RCs gun to shoot her. This is one of the many issues on which the interests of SGF diverge from the interests of the other defendants.

[eggbutt]

Oh good, reinforcements have been called in! Shift change!

[Maria]

@CurrentlyHorseless

SGF is being sued for creating a hazardous situation by permitting guns on the property, and perhaps for leasing the property to a mentally unstable trainer.

RC is being sued for providing the gun.

The plaintiff will try to hold SGF and RC liable regardless of who used RCs gun to shoot her. This is one of the many issues on which the interests of SGF diverge from the interests of the other defendants.

They will try. We will see how far it will go.

Not very I think.

[BigMama1]

@CurrentlyHorseless

Even if MB shot in self defense at a moment when he feared his life was in danger, I think it will be hard to establish self defense when MB drove himself over there will a loaded gun.

Minor issue with this scene from the movie in your head: there is ZERO proof that MB brought the gun with him. And given that LK kept posting about a “missing gun,” ample reason to suspect she took it from the safe and had it in her possession when MB arrived. One scenario is as plausible as the other.

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

@BigMama1

Minor issue with this scene from the movie in your head: there is ZERO proof that MB brought the gun with him. And given that LK kept posting about a “missing gun,” ample reason to suspect she took it from the safe and had it in her possession when MB arrived. One scenario is as plausible as the other.

There’s also the pesky little fact that LK has a criminal record involving trespass and burglary. More than one incident involving trespass.

Amongst many other things.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@BigMama1

@CurrentlyHorseless

Even if MB shot in self defense at a moment when he feared his life was in danger, I think it will be hard to establish self defense when MB drove himself over there will a loaded gun.

Minor issue with this scene from the movie in your head: there is ZERO proof that MB brought the gun with him. And given that LK kept posting about a “missing gun,” ample reason to suspect she took it from the safe and had it in her possession when MB arrived. One scenario is as plausible as the other.

OK. I look forward to hearing Bilinkas provide any evidence that LK took the gun from the safe and was sitting there on the porch with it when MB showed up uninvited.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

@BigMama1

Minor issue with this scene from the movie in your head: there is ZERO proof that MB brought the gun with him. And given that LK kept posting about a “missing gun,” ample reason to suspect she took it from the safe and had it in her possession when MB arrived. One scenario is as plausible as the other.

There’s also the pesky little fact that LK has a criminal record involving trespass and burglary. More than one incident involving trespass.

Amongst many other things.

What is the public record indicating she was criminally charged with burglary, VHM?

[BigMama1]

And the evidence that MB took the gun from the safe and drove to the house with it is what? Weird that you will happily believe one scenario and steadfastly deny the other one is possible.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

So, ladies, what are you predicting on the outcome of the next hearing before Taylor in six weeks?

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

@CurrentlyHorseless

What is the public record indicating she was criminally charged with burglary, VHM?

We all discussed it on a prior thread last year. It was easily looked up in the NJ court system database.

Did Papa successfully get it expunged? I heard he’s been busy with those efforts. It’s a common strategy for people who have lengthy criminal records going into civil litigation.

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

@CurrentlyHorseless

So, ladies, what are you predicting on the outcome of the next hearing before Taylor in six weeks?

Aaaaah. That’s an interesting change of subject.

Careful. Your mask is slipping again.

[Bogey2]

Not if you have a a lic to carry…and you carry. My BF only puts the guns he’s not carrying in the safe.