Michael/ Lauren civil trial update February 9

[Ambitious_Kate]

@3PonyFarm

Why didn’t the MCPO request the videos mentioned in the phone call between RG and JK during their investigation?

What investigation?

[Danvers]

I agree - [IMO] there is a treasure trove of videos and recordings that the KKlan has destroyed. They are deep in that dark hole… Once they are forced to emerge, I suggest sprinkling holy water on them, sense KK is so religious, and see what happens… I predict a bonfire

[MHM]

@Danvers

Once they are forced to emerge, I suggest sprinkling holy water on them

Like on Buffy the Vampire Slayer?

[Ambitious_Kate]

@trubandloki

You mean, like the whole Michael Goodwin thing?

I wonder if GAS is mixed up on the principals of this case, so far. I mean, if they haven’t met them in person, they might all just be names on a page, and who did what, maybe they don’t even have a handle on the difference between MB and RG.

“Wait, was it your boyfriend who shot you?”
“Wait, your boyfriend is Michael, the one you were so jealous of?”
“Wait, Rob showed up and shot at MIchael and got you instead? Was he the jealous one?”
“Wait, you aren’t the top rider at the farm, who Michael rejected?”
“Wait, it was your house you and your boyfriend were rehabbing? Not your house?”
“Wait, so you took the gun out of the safe, you said it was missing…”

There’s all kinds of crazy there, and GAS might very well be awfully confused.

PS - Why do I keep saying “M3CPO”?

[Ambitious_Kate]

@CurrentlyHorseless

Obviously I am permitted to express a different opinion, but KnightsMom “just assumes” that anyone “pro LK” is LK, a close associate or a family member.

I think that too. Most people think that, reading what you write. There’s no other explaination for you being so confused.

[erinmeri]

@MHM

Wait. There’s an equestrian grammar thread?!?

Behold: https://forum.chronofhorse.com/t/equestrian-court-of-grammatical-peeves/

[hut-ho78]

@cutter99

@eggbutt

@3PonyFarm

Why didn’t the MCPO request the videos mentioned in the phone call between RG and JK during their investigation?

There are so many “why didn’t the MCPO…” do so many things any average trained police department would have automatically done. What a complete system failure on so many levels.

I believe the poster who recently questioned if the MCPO had been led to believe Lauren Shay Kanarek owned HH and Michael was the tenant is on to something. I’m sorry I don’t recall who the poster was and I can’t find the post but I’ve thought that idea might have some basis in fact since I read the post.

It was me @eggbutt, and further back on this thread.

In my thinking, how else could the district attorney could have told LK that Michael Barisone had NO rights to restrict her usage and barn time on HIS farm?

There are only 2 explanations for this-

LK is lying about the conversation with the district attorney.

LK lied to the district attorney about who the rightful owner of Hawthorne Hill was.

Either way- LK is still a liar!

LK was a tenant and her tenancy included the house and the barn where her horses lived. Tenant rights in New Jersey.

[hut-ho78]

@FitzE

@IPEsq

It’s soooo strange that the plaintiff and parties related to the plaintiff are trying to delay so much.

So much this! I’ve never heard of such nonsense particularly from the family of the plaintiff. It’s so rare that it strongly suggests something is seriously wrong plaintiff side. No other reasonable explanation.

I don’t know what y’all think these are delaying tactics. The ones I had to represent my employer on were between 15 and 20 years of back and forth and retrials. It hasn’t yet even been a year since the close of the criminal trial and somewhere in google I read that New Jersey just streamlined it’s civil trials to speed them up to an average of two years time.

I don’t see the parents as 3rd parties delaying the trial by their efforts to avoid being harassed by the defense attorneys.

[MHM]

D’oh! Thanks!!

[MHM]

“Wait, you and your boyfriend reported the shoddy construction work on the house and barn after your boyfriend was the one who did the shoddy construction work?!?”

[Ambitious_Kate]

That one always made me chuckle. Who were they saying did the construction work? I mean, to the tune of 50k. They claim RG did all this work for Barisone. But they reported the shoddy construction work. So who did the work and wants to get paid? Some other dude?

[Ambitious_Kate]

@hut-ho78

I don’t see the parents as 3rd parties delaying the trial by their efforts to avoid being harassed by the defense attorneys.

Why is being subpoenaed to turn over evidence to the defence harassment? By your definition, any subpoena to turn over evidence could be considered harassment? They claim they have evidence. Shouted it from the rooftops. Used it to send to people. They need to come clean about it. They need to produce it. That’s not harassment. Withholding it is harassing the defence, and possibly illegal.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@MHM

“Wait, you and your boyfriend reported the shoddy construction work on the house and barn after your boyfriend was the one who did the shoddy construction work?!?”

Who said the work was shoddy?

The living spaces in the barn were not permitted for occupancy. The basement bedrooms probably did not have the egress required by code.

[Ambitious_Kate]

@CurrentlyHorseless

Who said the work was shoddy?

Oh, Horseless, pay attention. For pete’s sake! Do you retain nothing?

[hut-ho78]

@Ambitious_Kate

@hut-ho78

I don’t see the parents as 3rd parties delaying the trial by their efforts to avoid being harassed by the defense attorneys.

Why is being subpoenaed to turn over evidence to the defence harassment? By your definition, any subpoena to turn over evidence could be considered harassment? They claim they have evidence. Shouted it from the rooftops. Used it to send to people. They need to come clean about it. They need to produce it. That’s not harassment. Withholding it is harassing the defence, and possibly illegal.

Both Nagel and GAS explained this in their motions to quash.

[eggbutt]

Please ignore particular posters who are frantically trying to do their assignment of closing the thread. Seems some nerves have been frayed today.

[Knights_Mom]

@FitzE

@IPEsq

It’s soooo strange that the plaintiff and parties related to the plaintiff are trying to delay so much.

So much this! I’ve never heard of such nonsense particularly from the family of the plaintiff. It’s so rare that it strongly suggests something is seriously wrong plaintiff side. No other reasonable explanation.

So much this!

[Knights_Mom]

@rosinante

@Knights_Mom

Yes but note quite the price was paid for defiance of the law.

I don’t understand what you are saying. Mike Nifong was disbarred.

Yes he was disbarred and that is a heavy (deserved) price for being a dirty cheat for it shakes the very foundation of trust the people should have in the law.

[Sdel]

@Knights_Mom

@rosinante

@Knights_Mom

Yes but note quite the price was paid for defiance of the law.

I don’t understand what you are saying. Mike Nifong was disbarred.

Yes he was disbarred and that is a heavy (deserved) price for being a dirty cheat for it shakes the very foundation of trust the people should have in the law.

Too bad judges aren’t held to the same standards re: breeding mistrust in people for the law.

[Danvers]

If they haven’t been destroy then why have they not been produced as asked by the court? me thinks the KK"s protest too much…