Michael/ Lauren civil trial update February 9

I don’t know. I think LK has known him since high school. Wasn’t RG friends with Carmen, the guy Joey is in a long term relationship with?

I thought RG had been in LKs life for the better part of 20 years. Even during her brief marriage… or pretty immediately thereafter.

I think he’s had a drug problem of his own since his late teens. If MBs lawyers depose him, I hope they ask him about his military service. I’m still guessing that his discharge was less than ideal.

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I wouldn’t spend the money naming him in the suit but I’m not a lawyer versed in civil proceedings. I would definitely subpoena him to testify.

He can plead the 5th but there are nuances.

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From the public records, one can conclude that RG was pretty messed up as a kid and was getting into trouble long before Lauren graduated. You won’t even find a single HS yearbook photo of him, likely because he didn’t want to be identifiable in the community or because he simply refused to show up for the yearbook photos. As revealed earlier, he has felony and misdemeanor charges going right back to his earliest days as an adult. From what is out there, he and Lauren apparently met one another through the Jewish community, when his “Mom” (Unknown if actual biological, but definitely custodial.) took up with the caretaker (maintenance man/custodian) of the temple that the Kanarek’s seem to have attended in the 90’s.

In the early 80’s, when RG was a young boy and seemingly normalish, his “Mom” was living with someone else at the home associated with him in his criminal charges, and that someone ransacked the house’s valuables - in the manner which a druggie and later, RG would do - and ran off, but said individual was not named or gender-identified in the crime report write up in the paper, so I can’t say for sure if it was RG’s biological father, who was apparently dead or missing from their life in the 90’s, depending on how you interpret RG’s sister’s senior quote in the yearbook. Apparently, RG is called “Guy”, to differentiate him from the previous “Robert Goodwin”'s in his family, of which there seem to be a few in his direct lineage. There was a “Robert E. Goodwin Jr.” in an adjacent - as in walk down that street over there and you’re there - town and he had a bit of troubled history like “Guy” ended up having, according to the newspaper records, with conduct that resembles what “Guy” later did as a young adult and beyond. He was the right age to have been father to “Guy” and his sister, who thankfully looks nothing like “Guy” and got the “Mom’s” looks.

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Impressive. Seriously impressive.

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Does your research show any military service?

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I’m sitting here wondering if it’s occurred to LK yet that maybe she just should have quietly left instead.

Being a 23D chess player and all…

Is all this worth it? Just because you weren’t teacher’s pet?

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As said before, there was a very small window where he could have enlisted, if his Juvenile records were sealed up and he could pass the screenings, but I honestly don’t think that he ever got within farting distance of any Marine beyond talking to a recruiter or some family member. Apart from playing team sports as a kid, he has nothing in his background that would make him suitable for a recruiter to approach and he was definitely not going to win anyone over with his lack of school activity participation and academic under-performance, as shown by his complete absence from any and all things educational in the public records of his youth.

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:rofl:

Sooooo… what about Kirby’s family from Texas? Are they filthy rich, and that’s where the money comes from?

I bet you already have researched it Lex :smirk: And I bet the answer is no… Kirby’s family is probably very average in most ways. Not multimillionaires with huge inheritances to provide to the grandkids.

The clue? Kirby has an extensive public resume. She’s worked her butt off for years, and switched careers multiple times. I mean no disrespect to her for that - I respect and admire that. But… if she had inherited money, I don’t think she would have worked so hard at so many different careers for so many years.

JK on the other hand? His professional history is a big black hole as far as I can tell, other than him graduating law school, working for EF Hutton in the 80’s, and the oblique Linked In reference to being an “Independent Gambling and Casino Professional.”

He himself has said on these forums he’s not a practicing lawyer.

It’s all very curious. Where oh where do the pennies funding Lollypop’s ponies come from? :thinking:

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Land developer in Ft. Worth. Very possible there is $ there, land sales and oil. The other source is probably the health service related company that JK’s brother took over from their father.

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That’s what you said, @Knights_Mom.

If MB “couldn’t file a counterclaim against them” because RG and JK didn’t sue MB, as you stated, how could JK be “added” to MBs counter claim as @Virginia_Horse_Mom speculated?

Well, you would think she would have learned something and be trying to keep her nose clean, at least until the civil trial is over.

Can you imagine how it would look to a jury if she were to have issues at another farm?

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A few threads ago (I honestly can’t remember how many) , someone linked to legal information about impleading. And that explained how JK might be brought into the suit at this point.

Again… IANAL , and I will most definitely mangle it if I even try and speak about it. But… I’m sure you can Google it if you are curious.

:slightly_smiling_face:

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Or, they can promise him things he wants. Like threatening detaining him without access to drugs unless he agrees to comply. That may be the easiest. Especially if there got something to detain him on. Betcha they do.

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As far as I know, she doesn’t have a cocaine problem.

But never say never. :woman_shrugging:

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OMG really? OK I’ll explain again.

MB can’t counterclaim against parties who haven’t sued him first.

MB can implead parties not originally named in the suit.

Terminology matters.

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Detention means charging a defendant in a criminal matter. Not normally done on a civil case.

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Those who cannot learn from their mistakes are doomed to repeat them.

One would hope that anyone would be able to learn from really gigantic, life threatening mistakes, although I guess some people don’t.

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I meant detaining him in a different, criminal, matter, anything, in order to compell is cooperation. I can imagine other matters he might wish to avoid. Just a suggestion of ways to compell his testimony about what really happened.

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I bet if they depose him for ten hours over a single day… and make sure to bring in lunch, so he can’t duck out for some private time… he will begin to feel ill about 6 hours into that whole experience, and the last 4 hours of the deposition will be rather tough for him.

Just a hunch.

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