Michael/ Lauren civil trial update February 9

[ekat]

@Einhorn

I think they are trying to include RG’s role. Lk can say RGs is more responsible for setting the recorders, so it reduces her chances of being found responsible.

I may be wrong, but I don’t think he has to be a party to the case to be apportioned blame. That could reduce her exposure to the wiretapping claim.

I agree. But the other part of that claim is the dissemination of the recordings. LK made sure to broadcast on the interwebz what she was doing with them. That’s problematic.

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

@MorganSercu

Was RG an active participant in the conversation? If not, isn’t the same as some rando recording a client and their attorney in a private office?

The problem is that RG was even present at that meeting. ED testified during the criminal trial that JK retained him to represent LK, and LK alone. Full stop.

The Kanareks compromised attorney client privilege at that meeting by having RG come along and sit in on it.

[skydy]

I believe he did mention something about wanting to bill 50K for his “work” and was told that doing so would ruin the “plan”.

[Einhorn]

Oh, well, that’s true. That will be a hard one to defend against

[ekat]

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

think the meeting with ED will come into play with MBs counterclaim regarding the illegal wiretapping.

But not because RG recorded it. Although that was a strange and poor choice, and attorneys representing the Ks should take note of it.

The thing is, RG sat in on the meeting where ED did apparently advise LK and JK (I think he was also at that meeting) about NJ law with respect to wiretapping.

RG was NOT EDs client. So that was a serious error on everyone’s part, because the discussions that occurred during that meeting are no longer covered by privilege.

Sooooo… a few thoughts.

1. Did LK and JK speak to ED about the multiple locations around the farm where they placed audio recording devices and cameras?
2. Did LK and JK speak to ED about when those devices were placed?
3. Do LKs statements in the meeting differ from what she testified to at the criminal trial, do they differ from answers she gave to interrogatories, and do they differ from what she (eventually) will say in a deposition?

I would imagine that when Deininger and Bilinkas depose RG, they will ask him LOTS of questions about what was discussed during that meeting.

The key thing I wonder… will Deininger and Bilinkas depose ED? I bet they will.

Anyway… this is just my take on the current relevance of the meeting with ED on Aug 6 at this point, and the fact that RG was part of that meeting, and recorded it.

Oh I agree with all of this. And it appears that MB’s attorneys have heard the recording, since they managed to get a very small portion into the criminal trial. So, they are going to pursue that doggedly.

And then there are all those posts. Tons of posts. So many posts.

[ekat]

@Einhorn

Oh, well, that’s true. That will be a hard one to defend against

Oh, yes. Having Mom and Dad posting here about those recordings really does not help her cause there.

[jvanrens]

@trubandloki

@Knights_Mom

@Night_Flight

I apologize if it’s been shared already (I skimmed through but don’t have time to read each reply thoroughly), but someone posted to horseshowdiva trying to figure out who LexInVA is, and how they can find out so much about people’s childhood records. There’s also something in the post introducing the idea that Lex is making up the information, so perhaps some of it is getting a bit too close to the truth for the K clan?

This needs to be seen by everyone here and it is to me proof the LexInVA is 100% on the money!

I agree that Lex must have hit a nerve but darn, why do people have to do things like this.

Like it wouldn’t be noticed by anyone? And as for being creepy, obviously the poster doesn’t realize how easy it is to find out information by someone who knows how to find it.

[skydy]

Another dumb move (along with the ex parte note to Sceusi ) by JK, who should know better.

[Einhorn]

@ekat

Oh, yes. Having Mom and Dad posting here about those recordings really does not help her cause there

I know, that was pretty amazing to see. Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face…

[MHM]

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

@MorganSercu

Was RG an active participant in the conversation? If not, isn’t the same as some rando recording a client and their attorney in a private office?

The problem is that RG was even present at that meeting. ED testified during the criminal trial that JK retained him to represent LK, and LK alone. Full stop.

The Kanareks compromised attorney client privilege at that meeting by having RG come along and sit in on it.

Actually…

Didn’t ED testify that he did not recall RG being in that meeting?

So now I wonder if RG was present, or recording it from elsewhere? Or was RG even the one who recorded it? So many possibilities.

[skydy]

People here tried to tell them it wasn’t a good idea, but they wouldn’t listen.

[MHM]

Many, many times, as I recall.

[skydy]

I don’t think so. RG was there. ED just seemed shocked that it had been recorded.

[ekat]

@skydy

Another dumb move (along with the ex parte note to Sceusi ) by JK, who should know better.

@Einhorn

I know, that was pretty amazing to see. Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face…

So much dumb here.

[ekat]

@skydy

I don’t think so. He just seemed shocked that it had been recorded.

Whether or not ED remembers him being there (I’m in no mood to watch his testimony) RG’s voice is on that recording, per RG and the blurb that got into evidence.

So very dumb.

[MHM]

Maybe ED tried to block out the memory of meeting RG.

[ekat]

@MHM

Maybe ED tried to block out the memory of meeting RG.

Haha, maybe! Like the health inspector lady that testified about getting a bad feeling from him.

[MHM]

Exactly.

[eggbutt]

@ekat

@Einhorn

Oh, well, that’s true. That will be a hard one to defend against

Oh, yes. Having Mom and Dad posting here about those recordings really does not help her cause there.

Yes, they were so smug and condescending, weren’t they? Almost giddy with excitement!

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

@ekat

@skydy

Another dumb move (along with the ex parte note to Sceusi ) by JK, who should know better.

@Einhorn

I know, that was pretty amazing to see. Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face…

So much dumb here

I wonder if JK has finally hired his own attorney yet? Or is he doubling down on stupid yet again?

Pop Pop suffers from serious delusions of grandeur when it comes to being some sort of master strategist. He needs to get competent representation.