Michael/ Lauren civil trial update February 9

The first motion says that the primary focus is on SFGs breach of duty to LK and MBs actions are secondary.
Does that mean that they think SFG has more money to go after and MB’s assets are probably either protected or tied up in legal fees?

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The motions to quash the subpoenas that GAS filed today. I am pretty sure Mr Deininger and Mr Silver will respond and very possibly request oral arguments.

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It’s an acknowledgement that the goal was always to get $ from someone’s liability insurance.

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I am impressed by how fast the new judge decided that he would rule on the new filings on 2/17. It makes me think he knew these filings were coming and had already decided to not postpone any more rulings. I wonder if the Ks were expecting him to issue another postponement. If so, they may be feeling a bit dismayed to think that he isn’t going to keep playing along with their tactics (ignore, delay, deflect, deny, accuse, attack, etc.).

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Someone (I think @AbbyGRP maybe) explained how the motions calendars work in NJ. It’s not necessarily that the judge knew, it’s just how it happens.

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Personally I don’t think it can be. Generally (very generally) it only applies when the burden of proof and the parties are the same. This suit has a whole bunch of parties that weren’t in the criminal trial.

There is some case law where in a criminal trial, if the defendant pleas to an act (let’s say, hypothetically aggravated assault), collateral estoppel can apply because the defendant pled to the act.

That didn’t happen here.

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This has been discussed multiple times in these threads. Various posters have been insistent that the main goal for a long time has been to force SGF’s liability insurance carrier to offer a substantial settlement. This has especially been the case since the verdict came down in the criminal trial and the thinking amongst some (many?) is that a substantial judgement against MB will be a hard sell given the NGRI verdicts. And that whatever assets he has left will likely be tied up by legal fees. So SGF became the main target on the assumption that their liability insurance carrier will offer a healthy settlement. I believe the Ks are also banking on the fact that the other principals of SGF are in fact quite elderly (as opposed to JK and KK) and may therefore be more easily pressured to “okay” a settlement so the whole thing “goes away.”

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Which means the 2/17 rulings will likely be delayed - correct?

It now seems apparent that GAS has swallowed the Kanarek fairy tales, hook, line and sinker; has not watched the trial (because, hey, the criminal trial has nothing to do with the civil trial, right?), and basically has done no background on this situation at all other than listening to JK, probably via phone. It’s almost as though someone is trying to make GAS look like a schmuck. Sounds familiar doesn’t?

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And all of the discussion misses Mr Silver’s original answer to the suit which quite clearly answered the question about insurance.

I think Lauren Kanarek and her family banked on guilty verdicts followed by quick settlements and now they are in too deep. So, they have to go with what they’ve got.

At this point it does seem like delay, don’t cooperate, and hope to exhaust the defendants’ funds and will to fight is the strategy.

For reference: this is the last page of Mr Silver’s original answer.

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I wonder… Maybe there’s a way to save costs with this attorney if the client/witness writes the initial motion as they know the case and arguments, then the attorney can just sign and submit? That might make sense here.

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Here’s my feeling on this. The first Krol hearing was two days before the last round of motions for contempt, etc…were supposed to be decided before the delay games started. And, the request for delay, were filed before that Krol hearing.

And Michael’s doctors still said he presented no danger to himself or others.

I’m guessing that a) he knows Lauren Kanarek and her family and their tactics better than us, and is prepared for this and b) his lawyers and his support team are reassuring him that these kinds of delays are just what they are in a lawsuit.

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Thank you so much. I hope you’re right.

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I’m way behind- so JK & KK are writhing like mating snakes to avoid turning over the transcripts that KK was bragging about online?

How droll.

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The thing that is ROTFL about these filings….

If Deininger and the defense witnesses were just lying, as is repeatedly asserted, then Mr. Schellhorn really did a bad job since he failed to impeach any of their testimony. Didn’t even attempt to impeach any of them.

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Good points! I just hope this time the judge will be reasonable and release him.

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If the medical team is still saying the same thing, he should. That doesn’t mean he will though, sadly.

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It is amazing how Jonathan Kanarek apparently is some sort of svengali over the local police, DA, prosecutor, judge(s), attorney’s, etc. All to protect his little Princess to help her get what she wants, and to clean up her messes.

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So, I suspect the responses will provide more glimpses at the actual truth of what the defense has. Aka, prove to the court exactly which side is lying….and which is bloviating.

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I hope your hope is right.

My gut is saying the MB will not be released. :cry:

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