Michael/ Lauren civil trial update February 9

Okay, insomnia posting here. For those further along on that, does the phrase “whack with a dead cactus” apply to anything in the Barisone threads? I know houseguests does….

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A picture of the interior. Pardon my 2 am NostalgiaFest.

Literally every court Christmas party was at Forlinis. For decades.

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I’d add Shelley Nelly Belly, the very bestest friend in the whole world, to that short list - I’d be panicking if I were her. NO, I LOVE YOU MORE! :sparkling_heart:

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The key to determining whether its Shelly Nelly Belly, is to see if she is desperately looking for LK’s attention online.

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Hey, If you google “USEF Silver Stirrups National Grand CHampion” you get two results, both of them referring to lauren Kanarek. Has anyone else ever heard of that award before? She llists it on her Instagram. How do you get that award?

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I found this - haven’t read it but presumably someone explains it further.

And this -

https://web.archive.org/web/20151128124509/http://www.phr.com:80/awards/increment-dressage-eventing.aspx

US Equestrian Magazine

Published on Apr 18, 2017

2017 Horse of the Year Edition

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She won it, she indicated, 2016. Don’t know what division.

Winning it in 2016 would make sense if it was published in the April 2017 magazine that is shown above.
It looks like the division is training level dressage in Zone 3. Which to me means she was the zone 3 champion (still a great thing) and not a national champion but, since this is coming from Lauren Kanarek, a small bit of truth with embellishments is pretty darn typical.

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Silver Stirrup Award no longer exists, at least it isn’t something currently available to join. It was designed to showcase regional and national winners, based on points, of horses. It was replaced by breed awards. One has to pay a small fee to join and once joined, the awards keep coming as long as the horse competes. It’s 15 year old obsolete program at this point. They did give nice awards. Since the program was new and never took off, it was fairly easy to win due to lack of competition. One of our mares was always a regional and national winner because she had few others obtained more points. If she was still competing she would still be considered for awards.

I feel certain Robin encouraged LK to join Silver Stirrups since she also had her performance horses registered at the time.

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Question for the legal folks. When there is a change in attorneys, does the previous attorney turn over all their notes and files to the new attorney? Do they do it for free, or does the new attorney pay for the info? Or does the new attorney have to start from scratch gathering info (outside of what is in the eCourt filings)?

What happens if the previous attorney was working on contingency? Can they invoice the client for their expenses (since they will never have a chance at recovering any $$$ through settlement of the case)? Or are they just SOL?

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If you look under Silver Stirrup National, Training Level AA, she is champion.

Silver Stirrup doesn’t go by scores, but by placing in class and number of competitors in the class. So you do better by just going to more shows. She showed in 56 classes that year. (Entered more, but had scratches and withdrawals.)

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Also for the legal folks - did Nagel file an answer to MB’s counterclaim, and if so, how does this new one by Stone differ from the one Nagel filed? (I didn’t see it on the list of filings but could have easily overlooked it.)

To your last question that would depend entirely on their fee agreement.

To the first question, your file with the attorney is yours, like medical records are yours. So when you leave the attorney you are entitled to your file that includes all the factual stuff about the case.

Work product (notes, legal research, etc) belongs to the attorney, and may or may not be turned over. Some states require it, some forbid it, and I have no clue where NJ stands on this.

Nagel never answered it.

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Wow, she was busy. Good for her for showing up that much.

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Thanks for the info!

And it is quite interesting that Nagel never answered the counterclaim but Stone jumped right on it.

I assume there will be new filings by Deininger, Silver, et al to address Stone’s filing - correct?

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GAS had no choice. It was probably running on the deadline to answer. He probably either needed to answer, or ask for more time and asking for more time to throw out a fairly standard, boilerplate answer seems silly to me.

That counterclaim and answer doesn’t affect SGF, so we aren’t likely to see anything out of Mr Silver. Maybe Mr Deininger responds, but there’s really not much to respond to and it may be better served to use his client’s money on something else.

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I sure wish something would come out about Jonathan Kanarek (@Inigo-montoya) and Kirby Kanarek (@Seeker1) not answering their subpoenas.

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If he doesn’t respond, couldn’t someone try to construe that as essentially agreeing with Stone’s request for dismissal of the counterclaim? IOW, “Your Honor, defendant Barisone didn’t object to Stone’s filing, so therefore must be in agreement with it.”

There’s nothing in that answer for Michael to address though. They laid out their claim, GAS/LK said No and asked for a jury trial on the issue (just like the rest of the suit) and the jury will ultimately decide who is right.

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