More about Diamond

[Simkie]

For those of you who feed BG canned to your cats: you can save some dollars by feeding the big 13 oz cans labeled for dogs. I confirmed with the company that the only difference between the cat food and the dog food was the addition of glycine to the cat cans, as a flavor enhancer. The dog cans are nutritionally complete for kitties.

A quick google seems to indicate Blue Buffalo is a family-owned company. But I also turned up this recall info on them: http://www.truthaboutpetfood.com/articles/blue-buffalo-recall.html I have known too many people personally who have had terrible issues with Blue Buffalo making their dogs sick–vomiting and diarrhea–to ever feed them…

[wendy]

Before Grain is made by Merrick- if you’re spooked by Diamond, well, Merrick is the “king of the recall”. If you look them up, you’ll find an endless list of recalls and quality complaints going back years and covering a wide range of products. Everything from bacteria on treats to pieces of metal and plastic showing up in cans.

Blue Buffalo was involved in a nasty quality control problem just last year- they can’t even blame China for it, they just messed up and put a poisonous amount of vitamin D in some batches of food. Whoops.

[MunchingonHay]

Simkie, yeah you are right about me forgetting innova being a P&G product. I was thinking Acana instead.

I am going to bit the bullet and switch to Regional Red by Orjens.

Riley cannot eat chicken and dislikes fish so I am very, very limited to what he will eat. If this does not work I am going raw.

[Simkie]

@Louise;6254399

She’s 15 and I’m at my wit’s end. I’m just about ready to give her Evo dry (because she won’t eat anything that has been refrigerated, even if I warm it to room temperature) and give the others Before Grain.

Have you tried an appetite stimulant?

I have a cat that is a bit like your kitty–the stars have to be aligned just right for her to eat really well all the time. If anything goes off, she goes off her food and starts losing weight.

We put her on mirtazipine twice a week. I use a transdermal gel and apply it to her ear flap, as she’s a pain to pill. On the mirtazipine, she’s like any other eager to eat cat.

I would try some sort of stimulant before I’d put a 15 year old cat on dry food. At that age, she probably has some low grade kidney disease, and dry food would just exacerbate anything she’s got going on there…

[Simkie]

@wendy;6254423

Before Grain is made by Merrick- if you’re spooked by Diamond, well, Merrick is the “king of the recall”. If you look them up, you’ll find an endless list of recalls and quality complaints going back years and covering a wide range of products. Everything from bacteria on treats to pieces of metal and plastic showing up in cans.

Has Merrick had pet food recalls, or just their treats?

FDA website is just showing treats: http://google2.fda.gov/search?q=Merrick&as=GO&client=FDAgov-NewPetFoodRecalls&site=FDAgov-apps-newpetfoodrecalls&lr=&proxystylesheet=FDAgov-NewPetFoodRecalls&output=xml_no_dtd&getfields=*&filter=0

I wasn’t able to turn up anything else with google, but admittedly did not look past the first couple pages.

[clint]

I do a lot of fostering and I’m always encountering very picky eaters, so I have tried tons of cat food wet brands. Although seeming to have fabulous ingredients, I have never had a kitten or cat like Wellness of any variety. I keep trying, but so far, no luck. I had one litter like Chicken Soup, but none since, so I don’t even try any more, fortunately, since it is a Diamond product. One litter liked Nature’s Variety grain free a lot, but none of my adults ever do. One litter liked Blue Buffalo grain free wet food, but none since so I have given up on that one too. Always popular, but outrageously expensive, is Wureva of almost any flavor. Tiki Cat fish flavors are almost always a hit. Also outrageously expensive. Interesting, but I can usually get kittens and cats to eat Fancy Feast classic in the chicken and beef flavors, and that one is grain free and quite inexpensive. Their Fish and Shrimp flavor is all one of my adults will eat in the wet food department, and that includes Tiki cat; she likes the Fancy FEast better.

[BLBGP]

Question about Diamond - the recall was voluntary due to the potential of salmonella contamination. And no animals are sick…? So if they were good about a voluntary recall, why move away from all their products?

I am assuming I missed a big chunk of the news - fill me in?

[fish]

[QUOTE=BLBGP;6254556]
Question about Diamond - the recall was voluntary due to the potential of salmonella contamination. And no animals are sick…? So if they were good about a voluntary recall, why move away from all their products?

I am assuming I missed a big chunk of the news - fill me in?[/QUOTE]

http://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/showthread.php?t=349265

[JB]

Clint, all 5 of my wet-eating cats LOVE all the Wellness varieties lol

I have one kitty who won’t eat wet food, period. She won’t eat real chicken, cooked or raw; won’t eat any whole food; only likes a select few kitty treats.

[Wraper2]

Posted on TOTW Facebook page today…

Official statement from Taste of the Wild Manufacturer: Diamond Pet Foods has temporarily suspended delivery of all dry dog food products made at its Gaston, S.C., plant, including Taste of the Wild. The company took this step because a limited number of batches of its Diamond Natural Lamb Meal & Rice dry dog food also produced at the plant did not meet its stringent quality standards. Immediately upon discovering the potential quality issue, the company initiated a voluntary recall of these batches of Diamond Natural Lamb Meal & Rice dry dog food, as announced on April 6.

Taste of the Wild formulas are not subject to the April 6 recall and thus can be consumed as usual.

Diamond Pet Foods is working around the clock to resume product deliveries to distributors and retailers. However, the company is committed to ensuring that the Gaston plant meets the highest possible standards of quality and will only resume full production when this can be assured.

For more information, email us through our website at http://tasteofthewildpetfood.com/contact_us/. We will communicate via Facebook as updates are available.

[lewin]

[QUOTE=clint;6254490]
Always popular, but outrageously expensive, is Wureva of almost any flavor. Tiki Cat fish flavors are almost always a hit. [/QUOTE]

Weruva makes a canned called BFF that is about 2/3rds the price. It is still grain free and made in the same factory it does just not have as many flavor options.

[Liberty]

[QUOTE=Simkie;6254401]
For those of you who feed BG canned to your cats: you can save some dollars by feeding the big 13 oz cans labeled for dogs. I confirmed with the company that the only difference between the cat food and the dog food was the addition of glycine to the cat cans, as a flavor enhancer. The dog cans are nutritionally complete for kitties…[/QUOTE]

Very interesting - thanks! I feed BG to my cat, but only sparingly for variety since it’s so expensive. The bulk of his diet is Fancy Feast Classic, which I started feeding after reading up on it years ago when researching diet changes for a diabetic kitty.

@clint;6254490

…I can usually get kittens and cats to eat Fancy Feast classic in the chicken and beef flavors, and that one is grain free and quite inexpensive…

Fancy Feast Classic (pate style) really is a decent food at a reasonable price. My cats have all done fabulously on it.

[RedMare01]

Look into Earthborn Holistics. It’s made pretty locally to me (Evansville, IN) and I do not believe is owned by any of the big corporations. They have very high quality, consistent foods, including grain free.

I’ve been feeding their grain free dry to my kitties for over a year now, and have no complaints. Kitties look fabulous and haven’t gone on strike against the food, which was one of the big issues I was having previously.

I’ve used their wet as well, but one out of my three is very picky about his wet food and prefers Wellness to Earthborn, so for simplicity I still use Wellness for my wet food.

[Kryswyn]

[QUOTE=BLBGP;6254556]
Question about Diamond - the recall was voluntary due to the potential of salmonella contamination. And no animals are sick…? So if they were good about a voluntary recall, why move away from all their products?

I am assuming I missed a big chunk of the news - fill me in?[/QUOTE]

A poster here on COTH has a dog very sick and others sick from eating the the Diamond Lamb & Rice. Her vet has been on the phone with Diamond and has told them this DEFINITELY food related. So far, her dogs are the only ones I’ve heard of who are actually sick. They are waiting for test results for definitive proof that it’s the food causing the problem.

[EqTrainer]

[QUOTE=Kryswyn;6255720]
A poster here on COTH has a dog very sick and others sick from eating the the Diamond Lamb & Rice. Her vet has been on the phone with Diamond and has told them this DEFINITELY food related. So far, her dogs are the only ones I’ve heard of who are actually sick. They are waiting for test results for definitive proof that it’s the food causing the problem.[/QUOTE]

Can you please PM me who it is? We need to talk

[JB]

ET, here’s the thread
http://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/showthread.php?t=349265

[starrunner]

Fromm is a family owned company that doesn’t use Chinese ingredients.

They do have grain free varieties.

I started feeding since when I sat and did the math, it was cheaper in my area to feed Fromm since I could feed less of it than even TOTW.

[cloudy18]

I just bought a bag of TOTW. I debated, but haven’t yet figured out what my best option is. I am considering raw too, since it seems everything I can afford to switch to has had recalls-or will after I switch. It’s very frustrating. The cats also eat TOTW dry and Chicken Soup canned. I’m pretty much hosed all the way around, unless I go to the pet store and spend bigger bucks.

[kasjordan]

I feed Blue Buffalo and have never had one single issue. Matter of fact, my Shepherd has a super sensitive belly. I had him on 4Health, we tried Orijen- he had bad,bad bouts of the runs…for months on and off…Since the BB he hasn’t ONE time and he’s been on it for a good 6 months now. My JRT is a fussy eater- and he loves the BB too. I feed the fish and sweet potato. Can be found at both TSC and pet food stores, so it’s easy to find. The pet store I buy it from offers their own, buy $200 worth of product, get $10 off coupon and BB itself has a loyalty card- buy 10 bags get one free…I’ve got my free bag sitting behind the dog food container right now The Shepherd is mostly black and he’s longer haired, his coat is amazing, soft and shiny- he gleams!

[GotGait]

If anyone feeds Castor and Pollux, Merrick purchased them recently. Just an FYI. I know some people don’t like Merrick. I don’t have a problem with their food, but they have had quality control issues in the past. That does bother me.