Not sure what a mediocre Warmblood is, but most people underestimate the work which has to be put into any horse In order to compete on any level.
I am aware that most Americans don’t start young warmbloods so it’s easy to classify a horse as mediocre simply because the amount of or quality of training was not sufficient…. I know many mediocre warmbloods who were trained well and did much better than anybody expected…
Of course. But can’t you agree that there are some that do not make it to the big European auctions, and, of those that do, some get sold for more money than others?
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You know what, funny that you mention it… there were some dispersal auctions at Helgstrand and Blue Horse. And at one auction a 2 year old stallion sold for I believe 5 to 6 thousand… not sure whether you would classify this as mediocre…
But big surprise this horse was the highlight of the Hanoverian Saddle Körung and I believe he sold for 60.000 at the next auction….
So obviously somebody put some work into the horse and it paid off…. I can look up the horse if you are interested
I don’t doubt it, thanks. But I’m sure that you get my point. It’s not all training, all of the time. The gaits have to be there, the conformation has to be there, etc. Not every WB will get to FEI no matter how good the trainer is.
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Well in a way I agree but still more horses would make it to FEI with the right rider and or management…. And I think the horses name was Lovely Lennox and it was the Oldenburg Koerung….
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Absolutely. Not many riders/trainers of truly international quality out there.
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I’ve sort of lost track about how we got here on a Morgan thread, but this caught my eye. I feel like part of the point that was made upthread is that your average amateur/recreational rider absolutely does NOT need a horse with potential to make it to FEI. Yes, there are individuals in every breed- Morgan included- that do have FEI potential with optimal training and riding. But continuing to perpetuate the idea that your average rider should aspire to…or even, needs…a horse with this kind of potential is why I think we’re seeing so many people ending up with horses they are frankly a little scared of and don’t enjoy. I unabashedly love my Morgans and have no interest in showing, and am drawn to them because the same horse can be a happy hacker and a competent performer of Training level movements and jump a small course and complete a limited distance endurance ride. In my humble opinion, it would be great if the market produced more of this kind of horse, rather than warmbloods that could/should be moving up to FEI but require a pro program to be even sort of rideable by their amateur owners.
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Somebody stated that there are a lot mediocre warmbloods out there which are not much fun compared to a nice Morgan…
And I did not want to leave it uncommented because I believe it’s not true because the poster has no idea what a mediocre warm blood is…. Heck my warmblood is mediocre… she will never make it to FEI and I still love her to pieces and she gives everything….
I would never talk bad about Morgan’s because I don’t know much about them and for me a horse is a horse…
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I’m not sure why we’re arguing about mediocre warmbloods when the poster who originally posted about them was saying a mediocre warmblood was better than a Morgan…and not sure why that needed to be dredged up again.
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I think IIRC the issue was the price of a mediocre WB compared to a high quality Morgan.
You’re horse is really cute @Manni01!
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Times past, all horses were multi-purpose. It is only fairly recently that disciplines have become so tightly focused and professional that horses have also become so specialized. The AQH is a good example of a single breed that has devolved into almost separate breeds for the different Western disciplines.
Personally, I would expect a good Section D Welsh Cob to do reasonable dressage, go clear around BE 90 or 100, turn in a clear round in a working hunter class at a show and possibly show in a Welsh breed class too. Oh, and to go foxhunting in the winter and take part in fun rides in the summer. Moreover, I would expect it to be sound and to remain sound for 15-16 years or more with minimal veterinary input.
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And don’t forget the Finn horse 
. I didnt even know they exist but I have a Finnish trainer and she told me about them…
Sounds like they have it all… a pity that they are not well known outside of Finland…
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Oh yes, the Finn Horse is a lovely breed. I had an excellent week riding above the artic circle and all the horses were Finn Horses. They reminded me of Welsh Cobs, actually.
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Having owned multiple of each Morgan and Welsh Cob (section C & D) and still do (plus a couple of Welsh Cob x morgan crosses) I will say that foundation bred Morgans and Welsh Cobs are very similar with maybe the exception of the hair LOL. They embody the definition of an all-rounder and both with quite the sense of humor too 
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Hi Clipper! The activities that you want to pursue can all be done by the right Morgan. Some have been bred and trained to have very high knee action so you don’t want that. My Morgan mare is now 32 years old and we still go for a walking hack around the property once a week. She is considered an ‘old style’ Morgan standing at 14.3H with a short back, sturdy bone, and a ground covering walk… She has done eventing, limited-distance endurance and trail riding. In her youth, she was very forward and it took me a while to learn to channel that energy. She is also a very quick learner, tries to anticipate her rider’s next aid and brave. She has had no major health issues, just the occasional scrape or puncture. They are a special breed of horse.
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Thank goodness.
A Morgan girl has been bought. The horse is a kind and gentle mare who learns very quickly.
Thank you to all who helped on this journey. She is a joy to ride. Has the biggest walk! Her registered name is Siriusly Bewitched, She is out of Sirius Black and 7 years old.
Now on to blanket shopping. Do Canadian Horseware blankets look like they would fit this girl? Any knowledge on the quality of these blankets?
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Congratulations!!! She is beautiful!
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She’s lovely!!
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She is very sweet looking, and her showy side is quite clear! I hope you have many fun years together.
Is the brand Canadian Horseware equivalent to Horseware Ireland? I have had tremendous luck with Horseware Ireland Amigos and Rhinos fitting all of my Morgans, from the leaner show bred mares to the tankier foundation breds. They are very versatile and hold up quite well. My mares are outside 24/7 through Vermont winters and mudseason, and I get multiple seasons out of blankets.
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