My trusted horse bolted today on the trail

The spook and bolt could definitely be related to an ulcer flare up but at the same time I would also be highly suspicious of a possible predator in the area like another poster mentioned.

It also could just be a freak one time incident.

But the one and only time my TBX gelding has spooked, bolted and not been able to calm down was when I was trail riding with a friend in the woods and we suspect there was either a bear or mountain lion in the vicinity. Both horses absolutely lost it as we were crossing a stream next a rocky hillside that appeared to maybe have a den or cave. I was able to stop my horse using a pully rein and my voice but he never did settle even long after we left the site of the cave. This is not like him at all. I have had him for 6 years and we’ve encountered many spooky scenarios on the trails and he has spun, jumped or scooted a few feet but he always is able to settle afterwards. 2 weeks later two completely different horses and riders from my barn had the very same problem in that same location! Needless to say we stopped riding over there.

That day both horses would not settle AT ALL until we exited the woods, as soon as we exited the woods they acted like totally different animals, completely relaxed. The fact that you said dogs also find this area of the woods peculiar would put me on high alert for a possible predator as well.

I think it was wise of you to dismount! Some people say you were abandoning your horse but some horses are more confident with their owner leading them so that’s not always the case. My horse being one of them. I can ride him past and through almost anything but I have never had a scenario where he refused to lead after I have dismounted due to safety concerns. Just make sure your horse is very well broke to lead over obstacles as I have seen friends get jumped on while leading green horses on trail through trappy crossings.

You also have to think about your safety first listen to your instincts which is exactly what you did.

My advice?
1.) Learn and practice the pulley rein/emergency stop.

2.) Singing and talking to your horse helps too. My horse loves it when I talk him through something scary and I have used singing when riding by myself through dense forest where it’s common for packs of deer to jump out of nowhere. If animals know your coming it’s less likely they will surprise your horse.

3.) I agree with teaching your horse a “cue” to keep their focus on you. For me it’s a “cluck” and leg yield. When I use this cue he knows he is supposed to direct his attention towards me.

4.) work on leading your horse in hand past scary situations and getting his 100% trust while on the ground. Take him on handwalks in the woods sometimes. That way if you do ever need to dismount it will hopefully be less likely that he will bolt off.

5.) Learn to dismount by kicking off both stirrups, swinging your right leg over and quickly pushing yourself off your saddle and jumping down so that way you don’t have one foot still in the stirupp.

Hope this helps!

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5.) Learn to dismount by kicking off both stirrups, swinging your right leg over and quickly pushing yourself off your saddle and jumping down so that way you don’t have one foot still in the stirupp.

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I always dismount this way and did that day too. As I was swinging my right leg over to get off, he bolted.

You know, I never really thought about a predator, but last week my horses were pretty up. One evening, the one that I took on the trail ride, was so wound up about “something” in the woods that he would not come eat his dinner. I had to go get him - which is a first.

Do they act that way if it is just other dogs in the area? Today I took my dogs back there and they were sniffing, but not like crazy. They were however, marking a lot of territory.

My mare, that I trail ride extensively with, is not spooky, but the odd thing will get her going every now and again. Like the time she spooked at a piece of light colored bark on a dark blacktop driveway. It was about the size of a silver dollar. Not sure why it looked so scary but it did and she was jigging and snogging for a few minutes. The neighbors dog, who used to come out and bark and snap at her heels, used to be an issue till I figured out that she actually liked to chase him back up his own driveway… and he did not like it. You should have seen that German Shepherd run! After that he would hide behind the bushes if he heard us coming. I could almost hear him thinking… please don’t let them see me, LOL Now dogs on the trail aren’t an issue… the issue is holding her back from chasing the ones who don’t bother us.

When in doubt, go with your instincts. If it tells you to get off, it is much better to be safe than sorry.

Glad you two were okay, except for the ankle…:slight_smile:

If I feel my mare looking questionably at a scary object, I’ll always look the other way, start having a conversation with her or sing like I’m not the least bit concerned.

I find the more a person zeros in on the object the horse feels and knows that he too should be on high alert.

If by chance she does start acting goofy, I’ll side pass her a good 5 feet until she “comes back to me.”

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I can’t speak how others horses might react to strange dogs but I do know that my own horse would not be concerned at all over a dog. The day he freaked out in the woods it definitely was not in response to a dog. He is extremely well broke to dogs and will kick or charge if he does feel threatened by one rather than run. We have encountered coyotes twice, once even stalked by one, and even then he was only mildly concerned. I am pretty certain that whatever freaked my horse out that day had to have been something like a bear, bobcat or mtn. Lion.

L.S.,
I’m in CT and several reliable people have had Mountain Lion sightings in Cockaponsett, where I ride, yet I never hear or read about it…

Is this kept hush-hush for some reason?

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L.S.,
I’m in CT and several reliable people have had Mountain Lion sightings in Cockaponsett, where I ride, yet I never hear or read about it…

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I am from northern Massachusetts on the Nashua, NH border originally. My hometown is small and very rural. We’ve had moose, bear, and fisher cats in our back yard numerous times. Wildlife is just part of living in the area, and we make sure to keep our house cat inside. We had several mountain lion sightings, one of them being when a mountain lion leaped across the road right in front of my mum’s car. She was a park ranger in California for a while and knows what a mountain lion looks like, and she was positive this was one of them. She called the police to tell them that she had seen one and they said “we don’t have those in this town”. She called the Dept. of Fish and Game and they also said that there are no mountain lions in that part of MA. We have seen it (or another cat) a couple times since and we gave up trying to tell people because it felt like there was some giant conspiracy theory! They have even been photographed by deer cameras, and STILL no one admits that they exist in the area. I have no idea what the big deal is.

Someone mentioned that they were possibly brought back to help with the Deer population… :confused:

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I can’t speak how others horses might react to strange dogs but I do know that my own horse would not be concerned at all over a dog. The day he freaked out in the woods it definitely was not in response to a dog. He is extremely well broke to dogs and will kick or charge if he does feel threatened by one rather than run. We have encountered coyotes twice, once even stalked by one, and even then he was only mildly concerned. I am pretty certain that whatever freaked my horse out that day had to have been something like a bear, bobcat or mtn. Lion.[/QUOTE]

My mare is absolutely unconcerned with dogs, and a few weeks ago, we had a coyote cross the trail within 15’ of us, and both of our mares had no response whatsoever. I did have one very strange experience last summer on my mare. We were riding down a trail that we had ridden a few time before, and she stopped dead and absolutely would NOT go forward. You couldn’t have moved her with a backhoe. I tried every trick in the book, and even when 7-8 other horses went on down the trail, she wasn’t going. After about 30 minutes of working with her, sitting there telling her she was an idiot, I rode back up the trail and worked her hard. She was responsive and willing to everything I asked. My friends who had gone on down the trail never saw anything scary, but coming back up past that spot, one horse was trembling so badly, his rider dismounted feeling he was too unsteady to ride, and the other horse scooted past that spot like it was haunted. I would so love to know what was going on with that. I’ve been riding my mare for six years, and she is a willing, forward horse who isn’t afraid of much of anything. You just never know, I guess.

Yikes, sounds scary and I’m glad you’re ok!

Mr. PoPo was riding Miles, my old trail horse, down the short trail that goes off our property. At the end of the trail there are some neighbors who have a rotating menagerie of animals for the table (cow, pig, chicken). This time they had a pig on their property and Miles was just like :eek: get me the eff out of here! He turned and bolted, leaving Mr. PoPo hanging in the air. Considering Miles was running home and it was only half a mile away or so, Mr. PoPo got up and dusted himself off and started the walk home. Boy was he surprised when Miles came running back for him, like “C’mon, we’ve got to get out of here, there are PIGS!!!” :lol:

One time I was on Paddy, a very steady eddy on the trails, and we were in the woods where we ride a lot. We’re used to seeing deer, coyote, other hikers, etc. This day we heard rustling in the woods and I called out to see if it was hikers but got no reply. Paddy stopped, held his breath, and I could feel his heart pounding. He turned and high-tailed it out of there. I had to trust his instincts, as he doesn’t usually act like that and we’ve seen a lot of stuff on the trails. I assume it was a bear or a mountain lion. We’ve been back there plenty of times and have never had a recurrence of the situation.

No worries…I’m sorry about your ankle. Here’s the thing, theses are fight or flight animals. The horse made a poor response. You can do some character building excersises that build on trust. There all over the internet. Stuff like desensitizing from a tarp, a jacket or a bucket and a yoga ball. Let the horse learn that when they are with you, they are safe…you are base.

There are many programs that offer training tips for de-spooking. It’s not that your horse is spooky, it’s that respect and trust need to be built. Don’t have a heavy heart. You and your horse cant get past this and back to normal.

Best of luck!
~Roberta
www.findaridingbuddy.com

Yeah I have talked to multiple people that have said that the DEP “knows” there is a Mtn lion population in CT but won’t admit it cause they don’t want people to freak out. I have SEEN a mtn lion first hand while driving at night in Hampton, CT. The mtn lion was crossing a main road and both myself and my friend are 100% certain it was not a dog! In addition, my former landlord in Scotland,CT has seen one and I know someone that actually has a picture of a mtn.lion scoping out their Llama’s in their backyard. They live in the Sprague area. So needless to say they definitely are out there and apparently are in more than one town.