Neighbors have dogs they can't control now a barn cat is dead (UPDATE not good)

If you really want to be a fun neighbor get some of the critter ridder things that spray water when animals get close and add concentrated skunk spray.

I believe Havahart makes the outdoor sprayers and Amazon carries both. I looked at them for my neighbors dog that they finally keep contained now.

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This. Neighbors have dogs—3-4 right now—that show up frequently. I ran them off again this morning. What’s weird is that the set of 2 German shepherds and bulldog they used to have seem to have disappeared (not my doing) and there are 4 new ones. They would chase my horse, come in the garage after my cat, and run deer. One of the dogs that ran with the German shepherds killed a deer in my pasture. I shot the dog as he raised his head to look at me with it in his mouth. And then I called Animal Control and they came over with a sheriff, looked at the bullet wound (seriously?)—with the dead deer laying there and its belly ripped out—and asked me a ton of questions (after I’d reported these dogs multiple times). They knew these people let their dogs run not only here, but at the place they USED to live before moving next to me. They took the dead dog to the neighbors house and talked to them. I’ve called Animal Control I don’t know how many times but they do nothing. S,S and SU is what’s next. I just HATE shooting anything. I’ll do it, but it wrecks me for the day. Neighbor’s dogs running together on our road have killed more than a dozen goats, cats, chickens, and deer. Once they kill something, they don’t stop.

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unnecessary expense, in my mind.

Shoot them. If you don’t want to shoot them, call animal control EVERY SINGLE TIME.

And when useless daughter complains mention to her that when her mom falls one of these mornings, the Malamute isn’t going to see her as the kind old lady, he’s going to see her as an opportunity. I don’t know what it takes to get thru to some people, but Other People’s Dogs on Your Property is enough wrong. You don’t need taped evidence.

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Yeah, we had an aggressive neighbor dog problem here that only ended (fingers crossed) two years later after we spent $6k to fence them out. We didn’t have to fence the entire perimeter, just the shared boundary where the dogs were crossing through their fallen-down old fence. We called Animal Control many times and went to court twice (here there is no immediate fine—only a court date 6+ months later, which is not the best deterrent). They did pay over $1k in fines all told and received an abatement order which would allow the county to seize the dogs if they reoffended, but it didn’t totally stop the problem. We don’t live in a place where shooting them would be without consequence, and I think that could escalate the situation with the wrong neighbors. Although the woman did tell us one of the very first times we told them they needed to contain the dogs, “You can shoot them if you want to.” Like, who says that?? Anyway, they’re irresponsible dirtbags, but knowing that the fence is protecting my horses/dogs/family from those dogs and any others they acquire is tremendously reassuring.

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I have v mesh fencing level with the ground. But I have undulating ground lines and 3000 plus feet of fencing so I can’t really pour concrete at the base of the fence because of cost. Dogs still get in. I did have a section of fence over a ravine down by the creek in the bottomland that gave small animals access. But when I had to repair fencing after a tornado hit I got the fence people to fix that area with cattle panels and then smaller mesh fencing wired to the cattle panels to keep dogs from coming in through the holes. Then I saw where dogs were digging under the fence. I took logs and rolled them up to the fence where they were digging under. So they dug under in different spots.

I am through trying to fence them out. Nobody lives adjacent to this fence - I have another section of unfenced wooded land that is a buffer between the people up there and my pasture. It is not my responsibility to keep your dogs at home.

But this is Alabama where there aren’t many laws. Especially since so much of this area is/was wooded and hunting land. People in those hunting clubs shoot anything that moves on their property. Including people’s pets that walk across a section of it. My new neighbor lost his friendly elderly dog that just happened to walk on hunting company land along the road. He found him shot along the road. The dog didn’t know a stranger and it wasn’t hunting season. So people that let their dogs run loose don’t really care about them much.

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Keep in mind that there are many places where there is no animal control. I’ve lived in cities where we had animal control, but outside the city limts there isn’t any. Also, some counties have animal control by sheriff’s officers and it’s very good, but other areas don’t have any animal control. So, there may not be help available with marauding animals.

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In my mind it is never bad to have good proof of what the darn dog was doing on your property.

And bonus, when the dog issue is all over, you have cameras in your barn so you can keep an eye on things when you are not there, or understand what wandered thru and ate all the cat food.

As my post said, the part you did not quote, I also suggested SSS.

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My neighbor’s dogs killed my barn cat ON MY FRONT PORCH (while I was home). I didn’t see the attack, but I heard it and saw the dogs carry off my cat.

I called animal control, and they came right out. They talked to me, and then they talked to the neighbor. If I had asked, they would have taken the dogs away right then and there. This was not the first time they’d been warned about keeping the dogs on their property, and I had experienced them IN my pasture, chasing my horses.

I chose not to have the dogs removed, but did tell the officer that if I saw them on my property again, I’d be changing my mind. He relayed that to the neighbor. He also told the neighbor (and me) that I had the right to shoot a dog on my property. I told my neighbor that I would, in fact, shoot her dog the next time it set foot here.

She believed me, and in the past 8 years, the only time I saw her dogs was when I was nice enough to let her use my dog field when her house burned down.

Moral of this story: Call animal control. Call them EVERY DAMN TIME.

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I know it’s a pain in the butt, but blackberry vines? Sounds like you might have room enough.

No I am not planting blackberries all along my fence lines. Through the woods and between trees. There are lots of wild blackberries growing on my wooded unfenced part of the property with huge stickers that I can’t walk through. Hasn’t dissuaded the dogs. If the fence line was blackberry friendly then they would be growing there too. Besides the mosquitos and gnats would eat me alive down there.

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I’ve seen hogwire looking fencing that can be electrified like this - top and bottom. It’s probably expensive as heck but a good solution to predator problems.

in CA this is the law: you can shoot a dog if protecting people or livestock but you cannot shoot and kill a dog just for trespassing. the law typically doesn’t care about dead cats, more about dead cattle or livestock that has a $$ figure attached to its life / meat or milk or whatever.

https://www.stimmel-law.com/en/articles/dog-law-california-protecting-dog-and-protecting-peopleanimals-dog#:~:text=It%20is%20legal%20to%20kill,as%20property%20under%20the%20law.

back when I was young in the early 2000s in the NE - I have seen folks who fox/drag hunted and trail rode with their horses use some sort of weapon against a pursuing dog. a hunting whip that can be cracked down at a dog from the saddle or some sort of bear spray gun.

I also saw a brave hunt horse kick the sh*t out of a pursuant very scary German Shepard (chasing and biting at the horses heels and attempting to jump on it from a ridge along the trail) & trample it on command of it’s rider - ultimately killing the dog.

an older foxhunter - Irish horse - maybe Draught or Sporthorse - on the heavier side. What a warhorse, I don’t like scary dogs, so I was unbothered witnessing the scene as an 11 year old & was happy my saintly horse and I were watching from a hilltop.

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THIS^^

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Easiest to just make things safer for your barn cats. I keep my dogs locked out of the barn ( a cut hog panel across the door opening) my cats live in because they would all kill a cat and I have 4.

Fencing the dogs off your property is another solution , although expensive. I would do that over encouraging an all out dog fight, as to me a malamute is probably not a dog that would back down well.