Not sure what if there’s a similar law where you are, but my understanding is that in California, you have to keep the animal for 30 days before ANY sort of medical procedure.
So, no. Definitely not okay in my book, and if the owner comes forward and is not happy, they might have reason to sue.
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I do not know this person. She posted the found picture on several FB groups I am in. The dog looks very healthy and is wearing a collar with no tags. I believe she found it this weekend. I was SHOCKED the vet would do it. But like another poster said, who knows what she told the vet. As far as I know, the owner has yet to be found. While I am 100% for spaying and neutering, I was just surprised at how quick this was done![/QUOTE]
Many of the consent forms I have seen have a line in it where you declare that you are the owner or authorised agent of the owner
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And mistakes don’t ever happen? Doors left open with holiday visitors, car accidents, people traveling and pets left in the care of others…seriously? She has had the dog…what…3 days? Maybe not even? Give me a break. :rolleyes: My old dog escaped from my in-laws house two years ago and ran away only 15 minutes after we arrived. (Neutered, but still, it was an accident - he freaked out about the strange place and ran away in an unfamiliar city). He sat by their door for two days waiting for another chance to escape their unknown house. Things happen, and we’re talking about a puppy…good grief.
How much effort has the person done to identify the dog and find the owners before assuming that he’s hers to decide to neuter? How many vets has she called trying to ID, how many ads has she placed, how many animal control offices has she listed him with?
If they have exhausted all efforts to find the owners (no, 3 days is not enough), that would be different.[/QUOTE]
Well, here, strays that aren’t microchipped are killed after 3 days if they aren’t chosen for adoption within that 3 day period. So I guess, if the owner did come fprward, they should be happy they have a dog that is alive. So I think 3 days is fine, IF the person had it scanned for a chip, contacted the shelters with a description, and posted flyers/ads on CL lost and found and in local paper.
During that 3 days, the dog could have impregnated several female dogs and been responsible for numerous resulting puppies that may end up euthed. Or it could have been hit by a car and killed. If people really value their dog, they will keep them secure, and if an accident happens and they get loose, be GRATEFUL they were found, not killed by a car, hunter, animal, and be happy that the only casualty was their balls.
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Well, here, strays that aren’t microchipped are killed after 3 days if they aren’t chosen for adoption within that 3 day period. So I guess, if the owner did come fprward, they should be happy they have a dog that is alive. So I think 3 days is fine, IF the person had it scanned for a chip, contacted the shelters with a description, and posted flyers/ads on CL lost and found and in local paper.
During that 3 days, the dog could have impregnated several female dogs and been responsible for numerous resulting puppies that may end up euthed. Or it could have been hit by a car and killed. If people really value their dog, they will keep them secure, and if an accident happens and they get loose, be GRATEFUL they were found, not killed by a car, hunter, animal, and be happy that the only casualty was their balls.[/QUOTE]
No, that is not fine. Animal Control has lots of other dogs to manage, and has to do their best. Finding someone’s dog on a holiday weekend and waiting ONLY 3 days to determine whether or not you should keep it as your own (which I assume is why the person had it altered), is just immoral.
Of course the dog may have impregnated 3 females while being loose - except that the dog is NOT loose, but has been taken in by someone, who probably is having no problems keeping it from impregnating anything – unless she has a bitch in standing heat (unlikely, but possible)…in which case, calling Animal Control is a good idea. :rolleyes:
No one is arguing that anyone who has a lost dog would be happy to get it back alive, but since there seems to be NO reason for this “emergency neuter”…it is ridiculous to even try to defend this person.
I find it so interesting that people would consider a lost dog to be “found” after 3 days only because it is unneutered. What if this was a neutered dog, and the owner decided to microchip it with her information only 3 days after finding it. Do you think that’s ok?
This sounds eerily similar to a situation I witnessed a few years ago. Person heavily involved in rescue was pumping gas at a station and observed a yellow lab visiting everyone. Friendly, collar no tag, thin. She asked the attendants about the dog. No clue. She asked the other drivers. No clue.
She took the dog home and started networking with her groups. One was a little more extreme. They knew the owner and wanted to neuter and rehome the dog far away. They felt the dog deserved better than its current circumstance.
The dog was returned to the owner after some time. Maybe he had all his parts, maybe not. I’ll never tell :winkgrin:.
The owner may have been found. Someone posted a missing dog that looks very similar on the shelter FB page. I am waiting to see if it is the same one.
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The owner may have been found. Someone posted a missing dog that looks very similar on the shelter FB page. I am waiting to see if it is the same one.[/QUOTE]
Come on…share them here. 
I can’t wait to hear how the owners feel about the emergency neutering by the Good Samaritan. Now watch she’ll demand compensation for the vet bill.
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[QUOTE=jetsmom;7888421]
Well, here, strays that aren’t microchipped are killed after 3 days if they aren’t chosen for adoption within that 3 day period. So I guess, if the owner did come fprward, they should be happy they have a dog that is alive. So I think 3 days is fine, IF the person had it scanned for a chip, contacted the shelters with a description, and posted flyers/ads on CL lost and found and in local paper.
During that 3 days, the dog could have impregnated several female dogs and been responsible for numerous resulting puppies that may end up euthed. Or it could have been hit by a car and killed. If people really value their dog, they will keep them secure, and if an accident happens and they get loose, be GRATEFUL they were found, not killed by a car, hunter, animal, and be happy that the only casualty was their balls.[/QUOTE]
The important distinction here is that it’s three BUISNESS days. So a dog found on, heck let’s say Wednesday night, still wouldn’t have been available for its stray hold to be up until at least Tuesday afternoon. That’s also assuming the shelter was open on the Friday after thanksgiving.
here, for private citizens, the dog doesn’t have to be surrendered to AC but it does have to be reported, then the finder has to wait the same 3 BUISNESS day period before they can release the dog. So here at least, the finder would be well against the law to have found the dog over the weekend and neutered it Monday.
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Come on…share them here. I can’t wait to hear how the owners feel about the emergency neutering by the Good Samaritan. Now watch she’ll demand compensation for the vet bill.[/QUOTE]
The person with the dog I started this post about, commented that it is not the same dog. I will keep y’all updated
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And mistakes don’t ever happen? Doors left open with holiday visitors, car accidents, people traveling and pets left in the care of others…seriously? She has had the dog…what…3 days? Maybe not even? Give me a break. :rolleyes: My old dog escaped from my in-laws house two years ago and ran away only 15 minutes after we arrived. (Neutered, but still, it was an accident - he freaked out about the strange place and ran away in an unfamiliar city). He sat by their door for two days waiting for another chance to escape their unknown house. Things happen, and we’re talking about a puppy…good grief.
How much effort has the person done to identify the dog and find the owners before assuming that he’s hers to decide to neuter? How many vets has she called trying to ID, how many ads has she placed, how many animal control offices has she listed him with?
If they have exhausted all efforts to find the owners (no, 3 days is not enough), that would be different.[/QUOTE]
I would wait the length of time for an AC shelter hold…advertise the heck out of it, then snip, snip.
Share the link anyhow, I want to see the comments that people are leaving about this emergency neutering! LOL!
I ran into one at the collie rescue. Dog was picked up by A/C and turned over to rescue. We had the dog thoroughly scanned and he had two microchips, not just one. One was an AVID chip, the other a Home Again. It appears after some research that the Home Again chip was inserted by the finder of the dog…she found the dog out of state, loaded him in her car and drove him to Cleveland before even attempting to find the owner. I guess she didn’t have the dog scanned for a chip…(or ignored the result). In any case, dog got away from her…and rescue ended up with him.
We returned him to a very grateful original owner.
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I would wait the length of time for an AC shelter hold…advertise the heck out of it, then snip, snip.[/QUOTE]
So you think 3 days is long enough to “advertise” a lost dog before keeping it as your own?
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