NRHA and AQHA Say "No Thanks" to the FEI.

[findeight]

Abuses exsists in all disciplines, always have, always will whether FEI is presiding or not. Just because you don’t always see it doesn’t mean it’s not going on where nobody is looking. That’s not excusing it, just pointing out there’s no majick wand with the FEI banner attached waving over their shows.

Fail to see any benefit adding the FEI bureaucracy and expense to AQHA, NRHA, NRCHA or anybody else’s shows. They are trying to deal with their problems without the expensive oversight of an elitist International agency with a closet full of skeletons.

[Equibrit]

@skydy

[h=2]NRHA and AQHA Say “No Thanks” to the FEI.[/h]

I think it was the FEI who told them to p*ss off.

[skydy]

@Equibrit

I think it was the FEI who told them to p*ss off.

Technically yes, but only because the associations told them to take their rules and stuff it.

[Equibrit]

Strictly speaking - to participate in the Olympics you have to be part of a National Federation that is a Member the FEI, who is a member of the Global Association of International Sports Federations (GAISF)

enter USEF !

[skydy]

I don’t think Reining has been in the Olympics have they? They do the WEG.

Were they aspiring to participate in the Olympics? If they were, it seems it wasn’t really that important to them.

[Equibrit]

It was a demonstration sport with a view to inclusion, as I understand it. But just to be a member of the FEI would involve them in more bureaucracy than a small government and they’d have to deal with USEF.

[findeight]

Do they really need to go to the Olympics? Would that prove anything to justify the expense and added layers of rules to an already very popular and somewhat more accessible and slightly less costly discipline in the US?

[skydy]

@findeight

Do they really need to go to the Olympics? Would that prove anything to justify the expense and added layers of rules to an already very popular and somewhat more accessible and slightly less costly discipline in the US?

I think if they really wanted to go to the Olympics they would have towed the FEI line.

[bugsynskeeter]

@Bluey

What I read was that the FEI would regulate ALL shows.

No - that was not the agreement. The agreement was that FEI would have sole jurisdiction over all AQHA and NRHA events for horses 7 years of age and older. Those events would be run under FEI rules and all that goes with them.

[bugsynskeeter]

@skydy

I don’t think Reining has been in the Olympics have they? They do the WEG.

Were they aspiring to participate in the Olympics? If they were, it seems it wasn’t really that important to them.

A vast majority of the membership does not care about reining being in the Olympics. Most of the membership doesn’t even care about international level competition except when WEG comes around.

[skydy]

@bugsynskeeter

A vast majority of the membership does not care about reining being in the Olympics. Most of the membership doesn’t even care about international level competition except when WEG comes around.

Thanks. I guessed as much from the association’s lack of interest in being regulated by the FEI. Good to hear it from someone who knows about reining.

[bugsynskeeter]

@skydy

Thanks. I guessed as much from the association’s lack of interest in being regulated by the FEI. Good to hear it from someone who knows about reining.

I also worked for NRHA in the past. The NRHA Worldwide Medications Policy only went into full effect the end of 2015. Moving immediately to an FEI type meds policy would have killed the association.

Did NRHA wait too long to have a meds policy? Yes. Does reining need to have a no tolerance policy like FEI? No.

[Bluey]

This is one place where I read about this:

https://www.quarterhorsenews.com/201…ith-nrha-aqha/

The initial article has been revised into the current one.

The other was an AQHA email release itself.

As they explain, there are still ongoing negotiations.

Any organization can have reining shows and make their own rules.

Maybe that is what the FEI will do eventually, if someone offers to do so, if the FEI wants to support them?
Reining is new enough in Europe that they could form their own association separate from the NRHA and following FEI rules.

[Equibrit]

The FEI run Reining Championships in Europe already, based on their system of National Federations etc…

[belambi]

I would suggest vaulting will get into the Olympics next… (if equestrian remains… at least into the Youth Olympics… )… There are still CRIs and FEI reining organized and happening next year, even in USA…

[clanter]

@findeight

Can you blame them?

It sounds oh so gallant of FEI to protect horse welfare .

after-all they have done a bang up job for the eventers, how many horses have died on course each year?

[findeight]

@Equibrit

The FEI run Reining Championships in Europe already, based on their system of National Federations etc…

Thats not the issue if I understand correctly. A stand alone FEI competition is one thing, an FEI class running within an NRHA or AQHA show binding them to meet all FEI conditions is a problem. Seems that FEI wants to insert itself into these shows and govern any classes for horses over a certain age if Reining becomes an Olympic sport.

Not too long ago, you would see FEI regulated WC Show Jumping classes and many AA shows. Not any more. It was too expensive, cumbersome and negatively affected the other 98% of exhibitors at the shows so it’s only seen today at the big multi ring. Mega circuit shows. Wasn’t too convenient for the 2% that were competing to have one or two horses stabled in tne FEI quarantined area and the rest of their string elsewhere, for example. Spoken to several who don’t miss that.

[belambi]

@Equibrit

The FEI run Reining Championships in Europe already, based on their system of National Federations etc…

Not really… Its more a case of the host countries run them, their national equestrian federations rather than their reining federations. For example, the national equestrian federations do the entries and eligibility etc rather than the countries NRHA affilliate. Any country that has a team competing in reining at WEG, MUST have hosted a CRI of any level in that country… so for example, Australia hosts one CRI every 4 years…so it is able to enter a team at WEG…Its a huge expense and inconvenience since the entire Australian reining team live permanently in USA… Countries that send only individuals such as myself, do not need to host CRIs… yet…