My Liver Chestnut mare was bright orange until she shed her baby coat, so I’m voting Liver Chestnut. My Liver also has black and flaxen hairs in her mane and tail.
Yes, even the liver chestnut horses are typically born a lighter/brighter/redder chestnut.
However, liver is much, much less common than “regular” chestnut.
MOST regular chestnut horses shed a little/lot darker their first shed. Very, very common.
This means that most horses born a “regular” chestnut, even though they may shed first to be very dark, end up a “regular” chestnut color, not liver.
I’m thinking liver chestnut. But OMG is she CUTE! 
Adorable chestnut! Good luck at Devon. Can’t stop myself - Adorable, adorable, adorable.
Thanks all for the compiments on my little Lilly.
We went to her sires farm today to practice for Devon and she was perfect! Led great and when the handler stoped her she would place her little feet and stretch out her head. What a good girl. I can’t wait for Devon.
Breeder thinks liver chestnut as well.
I’ll let you know how we do and will post pics.
Any idea what color mom was before gray?
Given that daddy is a lighter shade of chestnut, it’s just really, really unlikely baby will end up liver.
2 years
I agree she is a chestnut but you really won’t know for sure what SHADE of chestnut (if she will be staying a chestnut) for a couple of years. She could be a different shade of chestnut at each change of coat. If she is a chestnut going grey then it is not unusual that she will become a very dark even black chestnut as she greys. I have a foal who was red chestnut and is now a black grey at 5 while her brother at 4 still has some chestnut to his coat…more rose grey. For some reason in some greys all the color they might have in their life concentrates in the hair shafts before they go white. Relatively few stay a chestnuty color as they grey. PatO
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Given that daddy is a lighter shade of chestnut, it’s just really, really unlikely baby will end up liver.[/QUOTE]
Do you ever feel like you are talking to people who just don’t want to listen :lol::lol::lol:
Not at all LOLOL
Since the topic has been brought up does anyone have any links to statistical information on how liver chestnut horses are produced? I’ve heard that a liver chestnut can come from two regular chestnuts and that two liver chestnuts can produce a regular chestnut foal. However, in most cases a liver chestnut is often produced when one parent is liver chestnut. This information seems to suggest that liver chestnut is neither recessive or dominant. Anyone know of some good information on the topic of liver chestnuts?
The genetic cause of liver isn’t known, and afaik no one has done any real study on the color (and shade) of the parents of liver offspring.
The best chance is liver x liver, but even then it’s not guaranteed, as you said. I can’t say I’ve seen a liver produced by 2 regular chestnuts, but I have seen a liver when one parent was regular chestnut and the other parent a non-liver color (ie bay).
It’s might be like sooty - maybe it’s a progressive set of genes that, when they all come together, make what we call “liver”. There are certainly varying degrees of darkness of both bay and brown and chestnut, and for all we know they’re caused by the same thing. Is liver in that category? I don’t know shrug
The only thing I’ve found, so far, is this
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12224446
The statistical analysis of 1369 offspring from five stallions indicate, that darker shades of basic color phenotypes (dark chestnut, dark bay) follow a recessive mode of inheritance in the Franches-Montagnes horse breed.
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Ok here is a link to photos.
http://pets.webshots.com/photo/2138766030106492562eZwvSD
Some from when she was born and a few the day after I clipped her.
The clipped photos, you can see the roots of her mane are dark and when you look at it closely it is black. The roots of her tail are coming in black as well. There is also, dark brown hair that is ringing her eyes.
Also, mom is in some of the photos and there is one of mom at 2 yrs old.
So, now what do you think?[/QUOTE]
I think the tulips are pretty. (That’s what the link shows).
We had a filly a few years ago that we swore was a liver chestnut. Looked very much like daddy’s coat. Happened to DNA color tested the dam a year later and found out she was a homozygous black, so chestnut wasn’t an option for any of her foals. The filly is actually bay. If you had seen her as a foal and yearling, you would have sworn she was a liver chestnut.
LOL Daventry, she looks totally bay to me 
Her mane and ear tips give it away. But, I can also understand how she looks chestnut.
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I think the tulips are pretty. (That’s what the link shows).[/QUOTE]
Ummm…that is because this thread IS 6 years old. lol! 
any updates OP?
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I think the tulips are pretty. (That’s what the link shows).[/QUOTE]
Me too. What are we doing wrong?
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Active not long ago so maybe! I would love to see an updated picture too
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I think the tulips are pretty. (That’s what the link shows).[/QUOTE]
This thread is from 2010. Link has probably expired.
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We had a filly a few years ago that we swore was a liver chestnut. Looked very much like daddy’s coat. Happened to DNA color tested the dam a year later and found out she was a homozygous black, so chestnut wasn’t an option for any of her foals. The filly is actually bay. If you had seen her as a foal and yearling, you would have sworn she was a liver chestnut.[/QUOTE]
Looks bay as bay can be to me, too!
