I’m guessing that anyone who owns a Majical GV isn’t going to be very knowledgeable about horses :lol:, let alone stallions. I like the snip, snip, snip idea myself :lol:, but I would be letting the stallion owner that there will be hell to pay if he gets in with your horses again.
In the meantime, put up a hot electric fence! Even hormonal stallions respect a hot fence.
I am truly amazed when people say that a young colt “won’t breed” especially when they own the said colt.
My “neighbor” behind us (she just has the land, no house, so doesn’t live on property) has 4 horses – two of them are mother and son, the other two are a gelding and older mare. She has two pastures – one has decent fencing but in the other pasture she has not finished the fence line that runs parallel to my property (we do not share a fenceline – about 12 feet inbetween). She has hay twine holding some of the fence boards to the posts on the fence. :eek: Guess which pasture she has housed her 3 1/2 year old colt – ding, ding, you are right if you guessed the pasture with the poor fencing. :no: To make matters worse – guess which horse she has turned out with him – ding, ding, you are correct if you guessed HIS MOTHER – because, according to her, “he won’t breed his mother”. :eek::eek:
I have tried to “nicely” educate her but it has been pretty pointless. I just end up keeping either just my bred mares or my geldings in the pasture closest to the “colt” so there is no temptation to come over the so called “fence”. I also have made sure my fence line is always as secure as I can make it.
who’d you snip?, the horse or the owner?
(isn’t that where the neuticals come in handy?)
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Guess which pasture she has housed her 3 1/2 year old colt – ding, ding, you are right if you guessed the pasture with the poor fencing. :no: To make matters worse – guess which horse she has turned out with him – ding, ding, you are correct if you guessed HIS MOTHER – because, according to her, “he won’t breed his mother”. :eek::eek: [/QUOTE]
WOW! she is real smart:eek: I think that she may be as inbred as this new foal may be that the mare has next year…lol
The woman I bought my mare from turned all the horses out together… including my mare and her “amazing” stallion. I’m pretty sure he was a quarter appawalkadale. Pretty creature to say the least :no:
When she told this to us when we went to see my mare for the first time,she barely registered by dropped jaw. I asked if the mare was in foal and her response you ask?
“No, she can’t be. I haven’t bred them. He only does his job when he’s told” less than 30 seconds later he was climbing on another stablemate out in the field. He was “just flirting”. 
My mare wasn’t pregnant, by some miracle. When we brought her home and the vet came out to see her, she said she didn’t need a rape kit to testify to what the mare had been involved in. She needed 10 stitches to repair the damage to her back end. But I’m sure that had nothing to do with being turned out everyday with a stud.
I’d be so angry I would be sueing if this happened. Not at all good. :mad:
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“No, she can’t be. I haven’t bred them. He only does his job when he’s told” [/QUOTE]
Makes me wonder what line of work she’s in, if she considers sex a ‘job.’ 
I would call my sheriff’s department if it was me. There is no excuse for not providing adequate fencing, and in most jurisdictions, its against the law.
I would be sure the neighbor is paying any and all expenses related to the “free foal”.
:no:
Okay I tried to read every post on this but its late so forgive me if I missed something; anyway, it seems to me, so far no one has yet commented on the OP’s statement,
That the OP’s clients Draft Geldings, were the one that broke through the fence in the first place???
This, at least to me, overrides the fact that the neighbors had a young stud on the premises - especially if the fence was in place before the young stud was brought home, you know? That to me sounds like, “just because I have horses, you living next door to me shouldn’t think you can too”… I can’t see how he is to blame, for two breedable females breaking into his enclosure, via efforts of their herdmates, you know?
As opposed to the situation in which the stud colt himself breached the barrier, which would clearly indicate neighbor at fault.
Anyway, inconvenient results notwithstanding, I would place the majority of fault on the fence breaking horses, and hence their owner… (and you know, draft-type horses are hard to keep contained, some would say as much or even more than some stallions, I’ve heard!)
PS, one inexpensive shot resolves the question of unexpected pregnancy in these cases, so please just first call your vet, ends that issue.
Anyway, it’s late, but I’ll check tomorrow, so please anyone, enlighten me to the outrage I’m supposed to feel, but don’t seem to be able to, with what I’ve read so far on this thread,
Thanks,
Arcadien
If I’m reading it correctly, the student of the OP had 2 older gelding and a mare at home. Their neighbors had a couple draft horses next door.
One of the neighbor’s drafts broke through the adjoining fence between the paddocks and the neighbor’s horses got in with the student’s horses. The student did not know that the neighbor had also recently acquired a stallion, which also got in with their older geldings and one mare. The mare may now be bred by the young new GV colt owned by the neighbors.
As I read it, the draft horses belonging to the neighbors are the ones who broke the fence, neighbors horses came onto student’s property and may have bred student’s mare on student’s property.
You think that breeding horses involves a romantic relationship?
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You think that breeding horses involves a romantic relationship?[/QUOTE]
I really need to say “Seriously?” in that certain way at this juncture. :lol: It was just a comment on the fact that the woman in the story apparently believes an animal thinks of sex as a job, a duty he’d never dream of performing if she wasn’t around to tell him to. Sure, people train stallions to approach breeding in a ‘professional’ way, but if you turned that trained stallion loose with a mare, would he be nickering at the gate for someone to come take them to the breeding shed quick?:lol:
Those are the 3 things I’d do.
And yes…I was in this situation once. In TX. A strongly worded letter netted me funds for my costs and neighbor (across the street) was forced by county to put up appropriate fence.
Thanks for all the responses, I have shared them with my student and her mother.
The mare has been taken care of veterinary-wise, and a sit down meeting with the neighbors has been planned for tomorrow. I have strongly recommended they get in touch with the county and make a report (thanks Watermark), and that the vet bill and 1/2 of the fencing costs (for the new fence, they should bear 100% of repair to existing costs) should be the responsibility of the neighbor. These people are of the live and let live variety, much more so than me :winkgrin:, so we’ll see what comes of it. They want to talk to the neighbors one more time, and turn to legal channels as a last resort. I simply impressed upon them what an incredibly dangerous situation this was for all involved, and how lucky they are that neither they, nor their horses, were severely injured or killed by their neighbors recklessness. I also tried to make it clear that now that Mr. Studly knows where a mare is, and how to get to her , he won’t easily forget that info, and that a new fence AND some hot wire turned on HOT will be imperative now.
My feeling is the neighbors are too stupid to change, and that my clients will have to take the lion’s share of the responsibility here, but hey, I’m cynical.
And yes, just to be clear, my clients horses’ were in their own field, and stayed in their own field. These other horses broke into their field. It’s hard to say whether it was Studly, or one of the full drafts who did the breaking (the neighbors house about 12 equines in the adjoining field–5 or 6 full drafts, a few Arabian types and a couple of donkeys.) Studly, two of the drafts, and two of the arab-y types, one of them the mare he was actively breeding when discovered, were found in my client’s field.
As I say I’d be a bit more agressive than they are willing to be right now, but I’ve informed them as best I can, and now we just have to wait and see. 
Geez-I understand the “live and let live” philosopy-I’m a bit that way myself-but when someone or someone’s animal breaks into your propery and threatens you or your animals with bodily harm, that’s when the lioness in all of us comes out!!!
Their biggest mistake is a shared fenceline! Give up 2’ of property on that side if you have to and build your own fence and electrify the outside so nothing can get in!!
I would not put my safety or my animals safety in the hands of some clearly obtuse neighbors!!
OK rant over-sorry Watermark-you’re only the messenger in this case- I’m just really annoyed with the client’s behavior!
Sorry-not Watermark-Phoenix farm!!
Got myself too worked up here…I’ll just slither away quietly…
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who’d you snip?, the horse or the owner?
(isn’t that where the neuticals come in handy?)[/QUOTE]
:lol::lol::lol::lol:Both, I’d say, but that would probably get them into trouble:lol::lol::lol:.
[QUOTE=PhoenixFarm;4142346]
Thanks for all the responses, I have shared them with my student and her mother.
And yes, just to be clear, my clients horses’ were in their own field, and stayed in their own field. These other horses broke into their field. It’s hard to say whether it was Studly, or one of the full drafts who did the breaking (the neighbors house about 12 equines in the adjoining field–5 or 6 full drafts, a few Arabian types and a couple of donkeys.) Studly, two of the drafts, and two of the arab-y types, one of them the mare he was actively breeding when discovered, were found in my client’s field.
:([/QUOTE]
Aha, got it. Then all outrage perfectly justifiable! Neighbors can be such fun, NOT.
Arcadien
You are way over the drama queen mark, and all of you answering here, call the animal control? Get a lawyer? Check and report to local authorities??? Are you people off your friggin rockers??? You know it’s snobby, know it all, jerks like you all, that give us REAL horse people a bad name, I’ve been a professional rancher and cowboy for 50 years and what I’m reading just lathers me up all to pieces, it’s sad to think that your kind exist, plotting behind thier backs trying to just stir up trouble and get the guy in trouble, calling them names and YOUR opinion on irresponsible people should be punished, you all stink to high heaven and should be ashamed of yourselfs, karma and the good Lord will be a looking in your eye someday… It’s just a simple happening, like that happens everyday, kindness and helping is the cowboy way, not this disgusting crap, I thank God I don’t have any neighbors like you and I thank God I live with no neighbors and my livestock are safe from vermin like you!!! Go to church people and get off your plastic high horse, the day will come when it’s your bad day. Remember that !
Noone has heard the others persons side just the picture one is painting… total BS in my book… My son had a neighbor like that, she was caught on deer cam opening the corral gate in the middle of the night… Just saying, call the law? Make a report?? Cause trouble?? I’m sick …
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