Good Lord. I’m so thrilled to see new levels of insanity. The old ones were starting to seem almost banal.
How can a PPE with only flexion and lunging could cost up to 1k$
PPE: max 200$ (and that is pushing it)
Hotel for 1 night: (let’s go wild) 200$/night
Meals (lunch, supper, breakfast, lunch) : 40$/meal= 160$ / let’sround it to 200$
Did it cost her 400$ in gaz?!?
I want to see the detailed invoice!
With someone like that, I would worry that had enough money to buy the horse in the first place.
She will probably continue to threaten to sue you. She might contact a lawyer, so it’s good for you to keep all your documents in order and that you consulted a lawyer yourself. In small claims court, she would have difficulty making a case against you. If she bad mouths you in equine circles, refer to the court case number and let that speak for itself. In the meantime, watch out for attacks on your reputation and document those as well.
I wouldn’t engage in emails or texts. Stop communicating. If she continues to contact you, get a free consult them pay the ~250 for a lawyer to write her a letter. I had to do that with a contractor, mine was a bit more but worth it for him to leave me alone (he came to my home when I was alone with my daughter for the weekend and was belligerent, finally left after I said I’m calling the cops but scared the crap out of me).
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Lol no . But she wants us to pay for her flash accomodation food travel expenses and the vet check …[/QUOTE]
Buying a horse is a lot like buying a used car…the purchase is based on a common law it is “buyer beware”
I suggest you just have your attorney (or find one) to write a Cease & Desist Letter to her … shouldn’t cost much but the peace of mind is priceless
Wow. Let me know if she wins and sets “legal precedence” so I can get my money back on the PPE I had done last week that the horse “failed”.
I have heard of vets being sued for passing/failing horses on PPEs, depending on the outcome of the sale. Which is why most no longer “pass/fail” a horse, just present facts. But I’ve never heard of a seller having to reimburse for a PPE…I would ignore all forms of communication and wait and see if she goes through the expense of getting a lawyer. Bet she doesn’t.
I agree. Tell her who your attorney is, that she is not to contact you again, and stick to it. I would also mention that if she comes on your property, that trespassing charges will be filed. That way she can’t show up and claim she didn’t know she was trespassing. Print copies of any and all communications with her.
Is there an equine version of “pound sand”?
Because that’s what you need to (politely, at first) tell Ms. OhSoEntitled.
Agree a letter stating the above on lawyer’s letterhead may be useful as well.
I am willing to bet this is not the first time she has pulled this game. I could probably tell you I was flying in to see your horse,etc etc. and then present you with all kinds of stuff as well.
Send her a thoughtful, just the facts ma’am letter BY MAIL. and tell her what many here have said. She came,saw and declined, end of your responsibility.
They have no grounds for requesting reimbursement, especially since they came out twice and examined and rode the horse prior to scheduling a vet check. I would not answer any phone calls from them.
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Good Lord. I’m so thrilled to see new levels of insanity. The old ones were starting to seem almost banal.[/QUOTE]
Awesome!
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Buying a horse is a lot like buying a used car…the purchase is based on a common law it is “buyer beware”
I suggest you just have your attorney (or find one) to write a Cease & Desist Letter to her … shouldn’t cost much but the peace of mind is priceless[/QUOTE]
I don’t think you are entitled to your expenses back when you travel to look at a car either…
Yes, this is blatantly ridiculous. I would just respond ONE time saying “No, I’m sorry but those costs are your responsibility” and then refuse to engage further. The potential buyer has no basis for what they are asking. Horses are misrepresented with “puffery” all the time and no one ever gets their gas money and vet check dollars back. That’s the risk a buyer takes.
This “buyer” is crazy. If the seller were supposed to reimburse all travel expenses, we’d all be flying to Europe to look at warmbloods, fer Pete’s sake!
Kim
Yep, this is nuts. I’ve vetted two horses that didn’t have clean PPE’s and I decided not to go ahead with the purchase. It cost a lot, with travel and time, but I knew going in that there was a risk.
It is painful to kiss that money goodbye, but it goes with the territory, doesn’t it?
Never occurred to me to try to get the seller to pay me back.
Does this confirm that horse people are truly nuts??? (I’m including myself in that blanket statement, because my family members are all convinced I’m certifiable.)
What she’s accusing you of is bad ethics - she’s saying you knew the horse was lame when you offered to sell it.
Unless she can prove that a lameness was of a long-standing and noticeable type, she hasn’t got a leg to stand on. <bad pun :winkgrin: >
Did they draw blood? I COULD see them making a cause IF they had drawn blood at the horse showed evidence of having been given Dex, bute or something similar. This would show possible prior knowledge of an issue and an attempt to cover it.
Many years ago a local trainer called me as she had done a PPE on a horse, and blood results came back showing the horse had been given DEX (even though the seller signed off that the horse was on nothing). The coach of the sales horse later came back and said the owner had given the dex for an allergy and not told the coach. I agreed with the local trainer, that the horse owner should reimburse for the PPE as they would not have agreed to do a vet check on the horse if they had known it was on DEX then and for when they tried it.
All I can say is that the cray cray is strong in the horse world.
It is best not to ‘talk’ to/ communicate with DELUSIONAL people !
OP ~ you have NO ! as in NO ! obligation in any area to this NUT !
Just when you think you’ll never hear anything new…
No, it’s crazy. She is not entitled to a refund of her expenditures just because the horse didn’t vet and it sounds like she cannot prove fraud because you didn’t know the horse had the issues that were revealed (if they even are real issues).
CRAZYTOWN!
