Outfitting New Trailer: What Can't You Live Without?


LAWNDART–

Sorry for the belated reply, there is SO much info on this thread I got boggled. But I’m really thinking of doing this, and would appreciate knowing your technique as well as GTD’s. You both seem to have good experience in painting trailers!

I took a better look at Gempler’s Rust Converter. It looks like it would be fantastic for places where I do have rust (around fenders mostly).

You said you spray paint after using it on any rust areas. Could you tell me what kind of spray paint you use? I did a Paint search on Gempler’s, and it appears they have mostly Rustoleum in small spray cans.

Also you said, “much easier than Rustoleum.” Did you mean the rust converter specifically, or ???

I would like as much info as possible before taking on a project like this. Anything you can post regarding your process (kind of paint, kind of sprayer, etc.) would also be extremely helpful!

Thanks in advance,
JJ

I just wanted to say thanks so much for all of this info.

We just bought what has to be the ugliest trailer in the whole USA last week. Structurally, for the age, this trailer is built like a brick house. It does have a bit of surface rust here and there that will be taken care of this summer. We are planning to overhaul it from one end to the other.

I have a question that I haven’t seen answered in this thread. Where do you purchase Diamond Plate? This trailer has the old version of aluminum plate on the fenders and in a couple of other places that we will pull off before painting the trailer and I would like to go back with diamond plate.
Also, does anyone know of a website or store where you can purchase replacement trailer windows and aluminum trim?

Keep the ideas coming, this has become my favorite thread on COTH!
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Take your trailer to a car wash where you put the quarters in. Make sure that the bay is high enough to clear the ceiling mounted pipe and hose. Use the long-handled scrubby brush. You’ll probably have to do the roof at home - unless you can stand in the bed of the truck to reach the roof of the horse trailer (at least most of it).

Regarding the GEMPLERS Rust Converter - the stuff is fantastic.
Be sure the surface is clean of any wax or grease. When I was dabbing at all the rivets on my steel trailer, the stuff only stuck to rust!! So once it dried, I wiped away any excess flakes. A quart bottle was more than enough for a 2H with large dressing room, 7"4" tall trailer. (roof was fiberglass) to apply to rust patches only! If you are doing the entire trailer, you’ll need more.
I bought a package of several different sized wire brushes.

Paint rollers come in different thicknesses and “naps”. The thicker the nap, the more texture you get. In a house where there are walls or ceilings with some lumps and bumps… the 3/4" nap is better, but there is also lots of spatter. As GRD said, a smooth nap is best for very smooth surfaces.
Rollers come in a HUGE assortment of widths and materials. There are even sponge rollers. There are rollers that are narrow and used in corners too. Many sizes of paint trays as well.
You can use Saran wrap and aluminum foil to cover, TIGHTLY, a pan of paint while you run to the store, eat lunch, take a break, etc.

There are also some pressurized tubes of silicone sealant. These are FANTASTIC. I like these SO much better than the huge tubes and blue pumper thing. I bought the pressurized sealants at Auto Parts stores. These can be used around windows and vents, after painting or before. Whichever you prefer.

DUSTY:
The metal diamond plate is available at many hardware stores in different thicknesses and sizes. You can also look in the yellow pages for welders and then call them about purchasing material. And, ask at a local auto-parts store. Truck accessory shops is another option, but probably most expensive.

When I replaced some items on my old trailer, a friend used stainless steel rivets. Very nice.

Another item available in hardware stores are metal strips with lots of holes in them. Like giant erector set pieces. Instead of attaching wood - these can be used.

My method of attaching things to the ribs is the same method used by interior conversion companies. But GTD makes excellent points about weakening a structure and how wood would transfer moisture. That’s why it’s critical to attach one “layer” (using furring strips) to the ribs, and then attach paneling to the furring strips. (for anyone who might be looking at used trailers that were converted.)

Gabs, thanks much for the rundown on the Rust Converter, it looks like an excellent product!

What kind of paint did you use? You mentioned spraying yours on, what was your spray delivery method?

Thanks,
JJ

Thanks!

Go> Thanks for the details.
I plan on doing our trailer sometime soon; I will keep yall updated. :wink:
As a sidenote, someone mentioned wood paneling on the inside- that is what my trailer has, and it is horrid for the most part-especially in the back where it gets urinated and pooped on regularly. Rotting away it is. I will be replacing it as well, and most likely spraying or painting on a “protective” rubber or foam sort of protection. Any suggestions?

Jo Jo … no, I didn’t spray. Spray painting is much harder than you might think to get a good covering. Very messy.

I used various size brushes to apply the gemplers, depending on the size of the area I was rust-coverting. Then, I custom mixed (on my own…) a color that was very close to the color of the trailer and painted over the gemplers… feathering the paint out.

I recently picked up a catalog from a vendor at a horse expo - his company carries many, many trailer items. And, there used to be a place called “Not Just Parts” that sold all manner of pieces - various sized fenders, replacement under-manger tack doors, a few windows, roof vents, lights etc.

And… some catalogs - ValleyVet is one - carry trailer equipment. They have the padding pieces, the thin rumbar type material to put on the interior of the horse area, and some ready-made hangers and supports.

I am using wood in the inside of my LQ (large dressing room) area. I have put thick styrofoam insulation panels between the ribs, taping them with the metal (not duct) tape, and then covering with the wood paneling.

Thanks Gabz!!
JJ

This post contains so much info. I had a couple of questions GTD, I was curious what size inverter you use, and is there a specific size of marine battery that I should purchase? Also, where did you get the trickle recharger? How do you recharge the marine battery after use? I guess those are all the questions I can think of for now. It is great to pick the mind of others for info.

I can’t believe that I just found this thread–the information in it is great! I recently bought a ‘95 Rollin’ M gooseneck trailer that is built like a tank, and I’m trying to outfit it as reasonably as possible. My daughter events and we plan to sleep in the trailer at events to save some money. My question is, I notice that several of you say that you sleep on foam, but I can’t find any foam mattresses that aren’t WAY more expensive that a regular bed mattress. I would really like to sleep comfortably, and don’t think an air mattress would do the trick. What is your solution for a good night’s sleep without breaking the bank?

I’ll have to go out to my trailer tomorrow morning and check the power specs on my inverter. You want to buy a deep cycle marine battery – not a car battery. Best to buy two batteries so you never run out of power. :slight_smile: I use solar panels to replenish the batteries – they trickle charge them over time with sunlight. If I’m in a hurry, I use a regular battery charger – you can buy chargers at any automotive stores or store that sells automotive products. Get one that offers multiple types of charges – 2Amp 4 Amp and 6Amp. Most chargers will automatically determine what kind of battery you have and the best way to charge it.

EDITED TO ADD: My inverter is 1000 Watts. It can run off on one deep cycle marine battery – all at the same time – lights (using energy efficient ultra-low watt “green earth” quality bulbs), TV, DVD player, clock/radio - all over a three day weekend. It has two outlets – I use household extension cords (short ones) to pile on the appliances. :slight_smile: No refrigerator (I use an ice chest – it’s quiet and does a spectacular job of keeping things cool without sucking energy), no microwave (like, who needs one?? Waste of space in my estimation – easier and far more efficient to use a single propane burner), no AC (would be nice but… if its going to be that hot, I’ll stay home!)

on sleeping

Go to Matress Warehouse and just get a cheapee bed mattress. You can always add pads to the top to make it soft and comfy. :smiley:

GTD, also curious where you purchased the solar panels.

I don’t own a trailer yet, but I honestly think I would be as basic as possible. I know the new ones are beautiful and have those cushy plush beds, but I’d rather sleep outside on a cot next to my horses pen.

I’ll say a microwave, a fridge, a mirror, a tackroom/feed room and room for 2 horses and I would be set!

affordable solar panels

Believe it or not… I got mine at Pep Boys (automotive store). For some reason this past spring the store was carrying a whole mass of portable stuff – probably for the car racing crowd – and that included the easy-up tent (which I also got) as well as solar panels for on-the-go recharging where electricity was non-existant. I thought “hey, why not?”

I have three Sunsei 400 solar panels which I gang together to give me 18 watts when I want to ‘power charge’ a depleted battery. For simple maintenance I use just one panel. They don’t require a controller to stop them from overcharging even when ganged, which makes them perfect for the “grab and load” people like me. The panels are extremely portable, attach together in a second with simple male/female plugs, and are perfectly quiet while they work. You can buy them on-line. This is the model I have (3 of them): http://www.solarcharger.com/s.nl/sc.2/category.62/it.A/id.65/.f If the store had carried the 18w model (http://www.solarcharger.com/s.nl/sc.2/category.62/it.A/id.66/.f), I would have grabbed that (cheaper and more power).

I opted not to install them permanently on the roof of my trailer because I don’t need to take them with me all the time. Less chance of them getting damaged or having to endure the lashing of 60 mph highway winds and low tree branches. When I’m parked I just plop them on the roof to bask in the sun, and take them back inside when I leave. My batteries are self-contained and not permanently mounted to the trailer either – they come with me only when they are needed, and are carried inside the trailer where I have immediate access to them.

Not having anything permanently affixed means… I can take my portable power with me anywhere, in any vehicle, to any occasion. :smiley:

Most obvious ‘CRITICAL’ forgotten?

Ya know, I don’t know if this was mentioned yet or not. But no trail rider worth his/her margarita salt should EVER leave home without a damn good cooler filled with a variety of favorite beverages. AND a battery powered blender (with extra batteries).

Just thought I should mention the obvious…wouldn’t want anyone stuck out in the middle of nowhere and have to bum a beer from a fellow trail rider (course we are always more than happy to share!).

For thirty dollars we got a nice Coleman brand air mattress. We already had an inflator, so we didn’t need that. I topped it with a nice (but cheap) thick foam topper and a good mattress pad. That puppy sleeps GOOD and even though Mr. Kat’s a light sleeper, I can easssse off the bed and he doesn’t even notice.

I did not want a ‘real’ mattress as I’ve heard from too many people that they get to smelling musty from sitting in a closed up trailer in the heat. We’re in Alabama and I know it just wouldn’t work for us, and I can’t leave the windows open, the trailer sits uncovered. So, I’m really happy with my air mattress.

katarine, thanks so much for this info–I hadn’t even thought about the mattress getting musty from sitting in the heat! However, I wonder if putting one of those plastic zip up mattress covers on it would keep it clean? I SO want to have a comfortable night’s sleep!

and…no one has let me know where they got their foam mattress from? They are so firm and comfortable–there’s bound to be a way/place to get them cheaply! Thanks again!

I always about half freeze to death on an air mattress…even in a warm place (the “heat sink” and “ice queen” are two of my husband’s pet names for me). Yet, I find them comfortable. Does putting the foam thingy’s on top insulate you from the frigid (to me, LOL) air in the mattress so that you can be cozy? I’m all about piles of covers, but that doesn’t help when it feels like you’re sleeping with a block of ice under you!

BTW…as the OP, I should announce that I got my new trailer and LOFF it to DEF. How the heck did I live w/out a dressing room for so long?! Got a sweet little surprise from hubby when we picked up the trailer…I was “auditioning” the 25 gal corner water tank in the DR to figure out where I might want to put it when I could afford to buy it (so as not to have tie rings, etc. installed in the way). He happened to walk up at that moment and said, is that included with the trailer? “Um, no…that’s something for later when I can afford it.” Then I went back inside the office to do some paperwork and he had the mechanic go ahead and install it for me! What a guy, huh?! I REALLY am glad to have that tank…used it quite a lot last week when I was at Fair Hill and then Graves Mountain. It’s installed right inside the door to the right, up against the gooseneck bulkhead, so it’s handy yet out of the way. The pump is wired into the trailer, but I want it to go to a marine battery because it’s a pain in the butt to have to turn on the truck key to run the pump. Easy switchover, though, according to the dealer.

On the short list for camping in the trailer are a porta pottie and a little propane heater. I’ve decided against the built in hinged lid box hubby was going to make me; for the moment, I like the portability of a cheap step stool and large totes. I also love the extra set of bridle hooks I got with the trailer, for a total of 12. Amazing how fast they fill up with stuff! I want to add several more tie rings in key locations inside and outside the trailer…one being above the DR door so that I can hang a tack hook and clean tack more easily.

Here’s a pic of the trailer, if anyone is intersted.

Does anyone know of a place to get screen doors for dressing rooms…or something custom-sewn that would connect with velcro tabs top and bottom? (So the door could be open to let in air, but keep bugs mostly out) I suppose I could sew something like that myself, but if they were cheap enough, I might prefer to buy one.

custom flyproof doors

Cool trailer!! :slight_smile:

I had to custom sew a “door” for my escape door – I simply got some window screening (nylon not metal), cut it to size, and sewed up the edges. I ran a line of velco along the top and it fits nicely over the railing I had the welder put all along the top of the inside wall (so I could hang stuff easily anywhere in the trailer). Works great for keeping the flies out, but letting plenty of breeze in. :smiley:

However, what I really want to get are those neat doorway hanging beads - they also keep the flies out (which is why they’re so popular in the middle eastern countries) but still let the breezes in.