Outfitting New Trailer: What Can't You Live Without?

Gabzs, I must not have explained it right about the water. It’s not recycling (as in dirty water), it’s re-circulating clean water IN clean water. The scenario is this: With the HWOD you either screw the pump end onto their plastic container that you’ve filled with water OR you can just use a bigger bucket and submerse the pump end into that. He actually fills an ice chest and leaves it in the trailer because it’s just a big water container.

So if you want to take a shower, you’d get wet. Then you’d normally turn off the water while you soap up so you can conserve water. Then turn it back on to rinse. Okay, the difference is, he just leaves the unit running rather than turning it on and off. But rather than waste the water as he’s soaping, etc., he just drops the shower head into the ice chest. Clean water is coming from the ice chest through the HWOD and it’s now going back into the ice chest.

All this does is allow you to take a shower without having to turn the water on and off or turn the heater on and off. Sounds like a real winner to me! Because you won’t have to re-set your temperature or anything at all. Just grab the shower nozzle any time you want, and drop it back into the water bucket in the moments here and there where you’re not using it.

If you leave your water set to a hot shower temperature, then what you’ll end up with is… the water gets warmer, naturally, because it’s being heated during the recirculation process. But that ain’t no biggie. Yeah, you waste a tiny bit of propane and battery time, but it’s negligible. You still take a fast camp shower, but this way it’s just a whole lot smoother operation. See? :wink:

Okay, the oil changing pan sounds like a very good idea. I like its size from what you say, definitely. I assume you can plug up that drain. The only problem I see is… is the drain in the center? Because if it is, it wouldn’t work for me because I wouldn’t be able to fit the pan through the door. If it’s on a side, then I’d actually consider installing a hose onto it. You have it a lot easier, being able to take a shower right there hugged up against your trailer. Now I was also considering that, except at the side escape door. On a hot, hot day that would be MUCH preferable to inside, because the trailer’s hotter than it is outside.

Hoola hoop works great for holding the shower curtain. My inside hooks (for hay bags and cross ties) are perfectly placed for it. Also there’s a tiny hole in one of the ribs RIGHT where I need it (sheer LUCK) where a little hook bungie can fit in, and that gives it the support it needs on that side. The center side is the problem, but I took the pin that holds the chest bar shut, inserted it up high right near the ceiling, but upside down. It’ll just fall out from gravity normally, but I ran a “dummy” bungie from that to a welded on loop (for cross tie or something) just to put tension on it. That stops it from falling. Then I hook that side of the hoola hoop onto the dummy bungie cord. Hey, whatever works right? LOL.

Just packed the trailer with a fair bit of stuff, and dang if it didn’t just all end up the right size to wedge in with no play room! I’m sure going to diagram THAT out, because it rocks. My big fear is having stuff banging around underway and not know it and have Cloud freaking out. Although I must say, an escape door wasn’t latched well enough and flopped open on one ride back from a friend’s and she was fine. Anoher time I didn’t secure the pin in the back top door (2 doors on top of the ramp) and that was banging open and shut. Again, she wasn’t freaked. So I figure she’s pretty laid back, lol.

Is there any reason not to just store all your camp gear right in the trailer? I’m seriously considering just doing that all season long. The more I can be ready to just pick up and go with minimal preparation, the better. Do you happen to do that?

One thing I discovered that’s turning out to be a super cheap “investment” with high usage is… Walmart has a knockoff of the EZ-Up canopy. It also has accessories, you can buy screen panels, etc. One of the accessories is “sand bags.” About $5 for a box of four of these things, and dang, they are super handy! 10 x 10 circular with a flat bottom, made of nylon and a draw string on top. I put my collection of bungies in one, a gaggle of batteries in another, and my grooming supplies in a 3rd. I can’t for the life of me recall what I put in the 4th but it must be packed, lol. But those are just nice size bags, and thin enough nylon so they’ll contain things but not add any space.

I did buy GTD’s recommended shoe bag ($7.00) and cut the bottom two rows off so it’ll fit on the non-horse stall’s side of the center divider. I rigged the grommets with wire and bent it so I can slip it down in the teensy crack between the side padding and the divider it’s attached to. Works great! It’s like pinned right onto it with no jagged points sticking out.

Other thing I bought… Walmart has those “noodles” pool toys. Those bend in any direction you want, and they don’t crack. Good for wedging in between things that don’t quite fit snug enough not to slide around. Can also cut them to size for padding. Some of them are round, but others are six-sided so there are flat surfaces.

I’m also finding those tall white buckets that are sold in paint section (also horse supplements come in them) – reeeeeeeally handy! You wouldn’t want to jump on them, but that’s what I use as a mounting block. Also works to sit on when organizing stuff in the trailer. Also a pretty manageable 5-gallon bucket for horse wter assuming nothing toxic came in it. They’re about 14 inches tall. If you leave your mounting block out (once you’re on horse) and someone does happen along who’s not overly honest, while they may take off with a mounting block, I doubt they’d have a lot of interest in a bucket.

Best thing I ever did was have a body guy weld on latches for locking the trailer. It didn’t come with locks, but I can now padlock it and leave a little more expensive stuff in it. (No cap on truck ;-(

Well, I will sure check at our True Value for the strong magnetic hooks. The ones I bought at Wally World are crap. Breathe on them and they fall off.

The Sterelite drawers. Well, I bought SIX units, lol. Hey, they’re ugly colors (except I’m used to them and they’re so ugly that they’re camp) – they were on sale for $12 or something each. A green frame that holds the 2 drawers, and the drawers are actually bins with handles on both sides if you pull them out (a deep pink). But dang those things are handy!!! I seriously thought about stacking them but they dont’ lock into stacked position and I really wouldn’t want that thing tumbling down. Could probably secure it at least on the wood which goes half way up the stall side. But it’s the top I’d want to secure and that’s steel. It could be worth welding a loop on for, but then if you want to haul a horse, it’s just one more thing s/he could bang onto. But maybe a very flat kind of loop. Sure would be nice to have four up!!!

Just discovered something else. I bought a tent 5 years ago and never even set it up. Well, I did Wednesday and along came back the rain. LOTS of it! HOURS of it. Actually, now, days of it. Too rainy to take it down, and besides I wanted to see how much water it would let in.

Well, took it down tonight, very wet tent. After getting the fly unhooked, we just carried it into the barn “as is,” and set it down. It dried really fast, so I was out there starting to disassemble it. There, crawling, is this HUGE honking spider. Ugh, shudder. Big thing. I tried to flick it far enough but couldn’t tell where it landed, and likelihood was pretty good somewhere on the tent (now spread out across the cement). Well, tent was still damp (only 2 days packed wet so should be okay). But that spider was very possibly in it somewhere, and for all I know, several of its brothers. So instead of struggling to pack it back into its too-teensy sleeve (they always are), I put it in an XL ziplock and closed all but several inches of the zipper. Then sat on it, squeezed a whole lot of the air out, and zipped it up. Now 45 minutes later, it’s still compressed. So with that little bit of air in it, that’s long enough so… wahhhhll, a dead spider IS better than a live one, no? I hate to suffocate a fellow creature, but hey, it looked like the biting kind.

I did the sitting/compression number with my sleeping bag earlier, and it stayed compressed for several hours. Air eventually permeates back in, at least this one did, but it sure works to minimize spacing stuff until you get it packed. Then if it expands, all the better, it fills up any spaces, and wedges stuff in all the more securely.

Bottles of water are frozen. I’m using them as “ice blocks” until they melt some and then get ice water so, so far things are seeming to be coming together for a first horse camping trip.

Lots of tricks to learn!! :wink:

On those sterlite drawer tote things.

Did you have to assemble them? If so, the top surface should pop off, then you insert a set of “legs” with the drawer/ tote; set of legs, tote, etc.

But your’s might not be exactly like mine but it sounds like they are. My deep drawers I kept 4 shipping boots, bell bots, head bumper, extra lead & halter, and other stuff, & horse cooler. That’s how huge it is. It’s big enough for at least 2 and possibly 3 helmets.

I always worry about how much weight I’m hauling… so I try to minimize wherever possible.
Have a great trip!!

Yikes!

I thought I’d copy this thread into Word so I could print it. Fat Chance!!! It’s 68 pages long. Waaaaaa! I have no intention of printing the whole thing! But, it’s great info. Keep 'em coming, folks. You guys are awesome.

Gabz, no mine aren’t like the ones you describe. There’s a frame (Christmas-y green) and two drawers which are actually carry bins (handles on each side that slide in and out so they’re removeable and can easily be carried in the house, loaded, brought back out and simply slid in, done deal. You actually “can” pull out the drawer/bin from front or back, but there’s a stopper so you have to finagle it if you’re pulling it out from the back. However, if you really need to get something, you can (great convenience). I stacked two units in the back of the trailer, right up against the butt bar in the back and against the side wall padding. This leaves just enough space between it and the wall to slide in an extra saddle pad which I like to keep, just in case.

While these don’t lock together in any way, they’re compatable surfaces for stacking (both flat legs and tops). Since the bins narrow just slightly at the bottoms and there’s a little space between them and the frame, that leaves JUST enough space to slip in a mini bungie at each corner, which amazingly holds them together solidly, stacked. (By the way this is an open frame which allows tons of leeway.) This morning I put in a very small screw eye, used one of those mini bungies with a knot tied at each end to shorten it, and whammo, that one anchor point wrapped around a corner of the frame holds it solid against the wall. I never thought I’d use those mini bungies that much. HAH! They’ve saved my butt a couple of times.

I did run across something in automotive, actually two things y’all may like. One is a mini trash can for a car. It’s black nylon fabric around a coil spring that’ll compress and flatten for storage if you wanted to, or let it go and it stands upright on its own. Way too small for a trash can (even in a car) but what great drawer organizers! They’re deep, so no lost space at the top.

The other thing is a pack of something they call “magic straps” or magic ties maybe. Just a piece of velcro that sticks to itself with a slit at one end so you can wrap around something and close the strap like a waist belt, then press it down. Great for stuff that doesn’t need to be squeezed (as in “bungie.”)

I have rounded front corners in my trailer, and I perched a short muck fork head on a horizontal rib, then used sticky-back velcro onto the trailer, let it set up 24 hours, and I secure the muck fork there. Keeps the tines way above head height and out of the way in an area that doesn’t lend itself to a lot of ceiling use. My muck broom fits in behind it, but will slide out, so one of those ties holds the two handles together. No shifting.

How was the trip? It was a disaster. Would have been do-able had I been prepared differently OR my trailer had been parked in a different place. Both parking fields were filled, so I went between them, what can only be described as “off road.” (No road there at all.) Weeds were a tangled jungle, about 2 ft. tall all around truck and trailer, both. It was pouring the whole time starting Fri. night, shortly after I arrived, so couldn’t move anything outside, even to re-organize for the occasion. Also discovered my trailer had sprung more leaks than the two I knew about. My down pillow got wet and so did my sleeping bag. No place to dry it at all. Then my lantern broke. Propane was spewing all over the place. I did NOT have rain pants. The ones I had proved not to be waterproof, pretty much a joke. So I was wet from boots to crotch, and had I changed, it only would have taken walking from my trailer to the truck and back again to be wet legged all over again. (No machete, and that’s what I would have needed, lol.) Stove was packed way at the back and I literally couldn’t get to it without moving stuff, but no place to move it (including stuff that “belonged” outside). I hadn’t eaten all day (nada) because I was on a dead run, couldn’t reach the stove, had no clue at this point where the propane was, or the food box, and wading through the brush to the ice chest (front of truck) was so much hassle that I just went to bed, starving. (It’s getting funny now, wasn’t then of course.) Then I ripped my rain jacket right down the front.

I ended up pitching my camp mattress in my horse’s stall (put down a contractor’s bag in the back part, eeeew.) And just slept on a wet pillow. I’d high-lined her to the trailer and a tree, so of course every time she moved, the trailer jiggled and since this was the first time I’d picketed her, I had to keep peering out to make sure she was okay and the high line was still taut (big etc.) So I got about 2 hours sleep.

Accuweather had said, before I left Fri., that yeah, there would be rain Fri. night (“showers”) and some periods of “rain” in the morning but then “showers” after, and Sunday was supposed to be clear. So I figured I’d just gut it out and things would get better. But after breakfast Sat. AM, a woman said she’d made the coffee run, and listened to the weather, and they were talking about non-stop storm conditions from then through the whole weekend. Things had changed.

So it started looking like there was just no reasonable reason to stay and put up with being wet 70% and hopelessly damp the remaining 30%. People with LQ AND who were parked on regular ground… different story. But without either, it was kind of an impossible situation. So I left Sat. before lunch. Had so many things not gone wrong I think I would have just taken my wettest clothes, put them on, set up a tarp in the woods (which were only about 25 feet inward) and then pitched my tent under it. Ditto with horse – a tarp and either high line moved, or else temp corral (I brought both) – into the woods.

And therein lies the sad part. Omigod, you should have seen those woods where I was. Sherwood Forest!!! Absolutely beautiful. There were like… rooms. Literally about five clearings, inside the woods, where trees were spaced about 6 feet apart in a perfect circle. Their top foliage was bowed over making a lush leafy canopy. And on the ground, no weeds, totally clear, with a thick, cushy bed of pine needles. If I’d had my patience still intact, Noah’s Tarp could have gone in one “room” with table, stove, chair, etc. under it. And tent in another with likely a plastic tarp over it because it coulda been done. And adjacent to that, horse corral that was basically already there a-la-natural. Likely with tarp over that too. Could have been quite a delightful setup! As long as you stayed there, lol. To get out, however, you had to wade through that high, thick, tangled WET brush and with rain and water everywhere, the trade off would have been just being constantly soaked if you wanted to venture to/from it.

Back up lantern. Serious rain suit. With those, it would have been a whole different story.

But hey. I did learn a lot. So there’s value in that.

New England has had constant rain as you’ve probably heard and seen. Floods, bridges damaged, people’s houses flooded, some forced evacuations, the ground just can’t handle much more water. The first three trail rides I was signed up for were cancelled or postponed, and this one wasn’t, but probably should have been. Sunday did, however, turn out nice after all. So I hope those who were better experienced (hence a little more smartly prepared) at least had a good day of riding on Sunday.

Sorry this post is so long, but since it was my first horse camping trip and so much went wrong (I left out several things including my driver’s side truck door lock broke, and of course, it broke “locked.” So nothing to it but to open the other and slide across the seat, right? (Wrong. It was the ONLY place I had to move stuff to, lol. It was packed to the ceiling with tossed-in “stuff.” And bags of hay. Etc. It’s actually kind of comical.
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rainy days and Sundays…

JoJo -

I’m so sorry your first camping trip was such a non-fun event. :frowning: Suffice to say – we all must bow to Mother Nature’s whims. Also suffice to say many of us have been in the same boat. I rode 100 miles in a nor’easter. Wanna talk about wet? How about the ice and sleet mixed with the rain?? I learned a lot about what to take that STAYED dry, and how to dry what got wet. I learned what equipment was worth it’s weight in gold (the small one-can propane heaters) and what should have stayed home (the English oil-skin foul weather coat. Foul weather my a$$ - what a piece of expensive useless clothing).

You’ve probably learned there are certain things you should always keep right at hand right in front – food, heat, light, and clothing. All the rest can be tucked away behind. And it’s important to LABEL the outside of each container so you know right away what it contains so you don’t have to search.

Keep your hay in the large contractor black plastic bags, and store it in the bed of your truck, not in the cab. It WILL stay dry back there even in the worst weather.

In the type of weather you described it is best to just camp in the horse trailer – don’t bother with a tent. Don’t know if your trailer is an open slatted or closed, but if it is open a shower curtain held up with magnets will keep the interior warm and dry. Carry some Florsheims hoof packing with you for sealing holes – the florsheims has tar in it, is soft and pliable, and it easily squeeze into the worst cracks and STOPS leaks quickly and efficiently.

Get yourself a deep cycle marine battery and an inverter and keep it in the trailer. It will provide reliable electricity for the WHOLE weekend, and you can even run an extention cord from the inverter for providing electricity for a light in a tent or lean-to. I no longer use flashlights as a major light source – I find them unreliable and tempramental.

rainy days and Sundays…

JoJo -

I’m so sorry your first camping trip was such a non-fun event. Suffice to say – we all must bow to Mother Nature’s whims. Also suffice to say many of us have been in the same boat. I rode 100 miles in a nor’easter. Wanna talk about wet? How about the ice and sleet mixed with the rain?? I learned a lot about what to take that STAYED dry, and how to dry what got wet. I learned what equipment was worth it’s weight in gold (the small one-can propane heaters) and what should have stayed home (the English oil-skin foul weather coat. Foul weather my a$$ - what a piece of useless clothing).

You’ve probably learned there are certain things you should always keep right at hand right in front – food, heat, light, and clothing. All the rest can be tucked away behind. And it’s important to LABEL the outside of each container so you know right away what it contains so you don’t have to search.

In the type of weather you described it is best to just camp in the horse trailer – don’t bother with a tent. Don’t know if your trailer is an open slatted or closed, but if it is open a shower curtain held up with magnets will keep the interior warm and dry. Carry some Florsheims hoof packing with you for sealing holes – the florsheims has tar in it, is soft and pliable, and it easily squeeze into the worst cracks and STOPS leaks quickly and efficiently.

Get yourself a deep cycle marine battery and an inverter and keep it in the trailer. It will provide reliable electricity for the WHOLE weekend, and you can even run an extention cord for providing light in a tent or lean-to. I no longer use flashlights as a major light source – I find them unreliable and tempramental.

GTD, sounds like some great advice! When you say you rode 100 miles, is this returning to camp each night, or is it camping en route with the stuff you carry on your horse? A-la wild west??

Yes, I definitely learned to organize stuff differently, that’s for darned sure. I did end up moving the hay under the truck (XXL ziplock bags). Labeling outsides of drawers and other holding containers is something I’d thought of but never got around to (my bad) but sure is a great idea, like way high on the list.

I do have some questions about your GREAT sounding suggestions.

  1. Sealing leaks in trailer with Florsheim’s hoof packing:
    It would have been impossible to get up onto the top of the trailer, let alone find WHERE the water was getting in. It’s over 8 ft. tall and not something I’d cherish doing on a dry day, but if that’s what you meant, what kind of ladder do you carry with you? Or did you mean sealing it at the inside??

  2. The small one-can propane heaters you referred to – I haven’t seen those. I have a Coleman ProCat (operates off one can of propane) but I wouldn’t call it small.

  3. Deep cycle marine battery and inverter – you’ve mentioned those before, I may just be looking into those. I don’t think the kind of horse camping I’ll be doing is anywhere near as challenging as what you seem to be doing, but can you direct us to any brand or specific type you use?

Now I’ve heard such great things about those Outback oil skin coats, and saw a few people in them. They LQQK serious, and very effective, and my farrier swears by them (he did the 100 mile gone for a week type trips). HOWEVER, one guy told me they are very heavy and unless it’s cold, miserable to be under because they don’t breathe. Really hot. I would have hated wearing something big and heavy, would have preferred being naked I think, lol.

Oh, one more thing. You said magnets with shower curtain. Where did you get your magnets? They sound really strong. Hardware stores, etc. seem to draw a blank when I ask about magnets, or magnetic anythings beyond those wimpy little white hooks that don’t hold any weight.

It was an Endurance ride. 2-day 100. 50 miles each day in really crappy weather. Stationary camp. Had to dry out everything each night – was up until the wee hours with that, too. What it taught me was to get several of those long cheapo plastic ponchos from Wal-Mart (or K-Mart), slit them up the middle, and sew on velcro as front closures. Best raincoat you can have for riding - extremely light, extremely airy, extremely efficient, able to be crumpled into a tiny ball and shoved in a pocket, and bright enough to be seen 1 mile away. Plus they are expendable because they are cheap.

Yes, I definitely learned to organize stuff differently, that’s for darned sure. I did end up moving the hay under the truck (XXL ziplock bags). Labeling outsides of drawers and other holding containers is something I’d thought of but never got around to (my bad) but sure is a great idea, like way high on the list. .

A BIG magic marker will do the job quickly, efficiently, and the labeling won’t “fall off”.

I do have some questions about your GREAT sounding suggestions. 1. Sealing leaks in trailer with Florsheim’s hoof packing:
It would have been impossible to get up onto the top of the trailer, let alone find WHERE the water was getting in. It’s over 8 ft. tall and not something I’d cherish doing on a dry day, but if that’s what you meant, what kind of ladder do you carry with you? Or did you mean sealing it at the inside??.

Yes, I meant sealing it from the inside. You can generally follow the course of a drip back to the source. The Florsheim’s packing is like the modern equivalent to a 18th century sailor’s tarred hemp “packing” that they used to stop leaks on the wooden sailing ships. :cool: You can keep a ball of Florsheims in a plastic bag in your safety equipment box (the box with the hammer and screwdrivers and pliers). Guaranteed Florsheims will keep soft and pliable for several centuries. It gets harder when it gets cold, but will soften up very quickly in the sun or near heat.

  1. The small one-can propane heaters you referred to – I haven’t seen those. I have a Coleman ProCat (operates off one can of propane) but I wouldn’t call it small…

Mine is also a Coleman – it’s called a “One Burner Propane Stove”. It has just the holding foot and the screw-on burner head. Nothing else. An endurance rider years ago suggested it to me when I was struggling with one of those kerosene pump-up stoves that just would not work. I threw out that pump-up stove, bought what she had, and it’s been fantastic since day one. Uber light, highly portable (fits in a 8"x8" box), extremely easy to assemble/use/disassemble, and 100% reliable.

  1. Deep cycle marine battery and inverter – you’ve mentioned those before, I may just be looking into those. I don’t think the kind of horse camping I’ll be doing is anywhere near as challenging as what you seem to be doing, but can you direct us to any brand or specific type you use?.

Any inverter that can give you at least two outlets will be more than sufficient. Read the labels – they will often tell you how much power they can process from a battery. And as I said – an extention cord is a must with these for camping so that you can take that power a distance away to use. I have two of those grab-clamp swivvle lights with a round metal heat shield that both projects the light forward and acts as a heat shield. You can find them at automotive stores. Mechanics use them because that grab-clamp can attach to about anything with an edge, and the head swivvels to whatever position you want to aim the light. I also use the green earth light bulbs – they pull WAY less amperage than a conventional light, yet give you the same illumination. Very important consideration when your energy source is a stand-alone (and heavy like a big battery that should stay put) and not part of a commercial power grid. I have seen the small inverters with small car batteries – they actually work great for running field computers and lights, AND they are portable. Mine is designed for heavier useage (TV, DVD, lights, small battery charging, etc) so it does “stay put” in the corner of my trailer. I have the portable solar panels to recharge the battery – they are silent and highly efficient. I like that my renewable “source” of power is Ma Nature. :wink:

Now I’ve heard such great things about those Outback oil skin coats, and saw a few people in them. They LQQK serious, and very effective, and my farrier swears by them (he did the 100 mile gone for a week type trips). HOWEVER, one guy told me they are very heavy and unless it’s cold, miserable to be under because they don’t breathe. Really hot. I would have hated wearing something big and heavy, would have preferred being naked I think, lol…

Trust the last guy. He’s absolutely right… except for the part being good in the cold. They are HORRIBLE in the cold. You sweat like a pig, then when you take the coat off you get chilled by your sweaty clothes. Wish someone had told me these things just don’t work, but… I found out the hard way. It also didn’t keep out the nor’easter rain, either. In no time at all it was soggy and extremely heavy. It rubbed in all the wrong places – even under my arms !!-- and in some areas the rubbing “burned” raw spots. I had to vet-wrap those parts of me to protect the raw spots. I was extremely miserable for a whole freezing cold, rainy, sleety weekend, and never stopped cursing that damn coat. Only thing that kept me going was the image of me burning it in the trash barrel once I got home. The coat now hangs on a hook at home (my husband thinks it looks stylish to wear and was horrified when I told him I wanted to torch it). That thing won’t find itself on my back again. They might look uber cool on a good look’n Outback cowboy, but … if you are serious about staying dry and comfortable while riding I would NOT recommend one of these coats at all. Period.

Oh, one more thing. You said magnets with shower curtain. Where did you get your magnets? They sound really strong. Hardware stores, etc. seem to draw a blank when I ask about magnets, or magnetic anythings beyond those wimpy little white hooks that don’t hold any weight.

The best magnets I’ve found were the ones on the back of those Coleman tent lights. They have two REALLY strong magnets - worth the price of the light, IMHO. Those lights only last one season anyway (the contacts corrode VERY quickly) so I would pry off the magnets and just stick them in one spot of my trailer for using whenever I needed them. I have about 6 of them and they are always “on duty” for one job or another. The other source of strong magnets are the holding ends of those magnetic curtain rods. You can find them at the bigger hardware stores. But if anyone else has a source of where to find really good magnetics, it would be great to know. :slight_smile:

GTD, thanks for the detailed reply!! It sure sounds like you have had the experiences, lol.

Well, I hit the hardware store and Gabz was right, they had some great magnet hooks. Oddly enough, what looked like a wimpy hook (thin metal hook) said it holds 15 lbs. What looked like a much more serious hook (bigger, fatter, plastic covered) only said it would hold 5 lbs. I bought all they had of the wimpy ones, which was only three. I have no clue why Wally World doesn’t have any of these things, but they don’t seem to.

Well, if the Coleman tent lights frazzle after a season, I won’t get more than one trip out of two of mine. When I found my lantern was broken Fri. night upon arrival, I had to do stuff outside, so brought two of the tent lights out and it was raining right on 'em. But I definitely agree with you about the magnets – when the lights die, I’ll pry those babies out, because they sure are strong!

Where do you get the Florsheim putty stuff? It sounds terrific. If you’re talking putting it on the inside, while I know I’d be smart to get the leak stopped from entering the trailer anywhere at all, at least this could be a temporary fix. That would downright make my day! And for sure my nights, it ain’t fun having a pillow with brown wet stains from rust on it, yuk!

The Outback coat you described sounded like a nightmare!!! I definitely like the sound of the ponchos and how you modified them because I have two of them and they’re great. I think a whopping $3.00 each or something of the order, but they’d totally cover the saddle and from what I could tell, pretty much the whole leg.

GTD–

Clarifications please…

Re the trailer leaks, did you mean Forshner’s hoof packing? (Made by Farnam.) I looked up Florsheim’s and got human shoes which is the first thing that came to mind when I read it. I figured maybe there was another Florsheim’s, but did find Forshner’s. If that’s it, smallest quantity that I found is a 4 lb. bucket for $19. If I wouldn’t need much maybe someone I know has some, doesn’t sound like I’d need a lot.

Second… re the Coleman 1-burner propane stove, it appears to be made for cooking, not for heating. So did you mean you use it as a heater? If so, do you add something to the top to make it project space heat? Or were you talking about just warming your hands by it??

It does look like a space-efficient little stove though, if just making a pot of coffee. I’m not sure how a 9-cup pot of coffee would balance on it though, seems like it would be pretty top heavy right off the bat. If not though, it sure looks like a lot quicker “do” than a 2-burner tabletop stove.

[B]I too have been searching for magnets. Strongest one so far my son gave me out of a computer. Haven’t found another. The ones on the magnetic curtain rods are good, have three of those. If you take the magnetic curtain rods, put them on the ceiling of your trailer, you can hang a shower curtain (with rings) anywhere (like in a corner) to create an area of privacy for dressing, shower, or porta potti.

I found those ‘florescent stick lights’ they sell at Sears for around ten dollars to be great. They have a hook on the top so you can hang them anywere, and take less wattage then a convential bulb. Throws quite a bit of light. Comes with a long enough cord that I can hang it outside the trailer at night so I can find the darn thing in the dark and rain. I hate rain when camping.

I camp much less than GTD, but I find if I can keep dry, fairly warm, and fed, I can stand 2-3 days. Just a hot cup of tea or soup can make the difference between staying or going for me. I don’t have LQ of any kind, but I do have a gooseneck that is totally enclosed, a 5’ dressing room that we converted into a ‘living space’.

I’ve not found the stand alone canopies to be worth the effort. An awing on the trailer would be nice, but not worth the $800 it would cost IMHO. Rather spend that money on a new saddle :winkgrin:
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Lawndart, where do you get the curtain rods with the good magnets? Those could be very handy! I seem to remember when I called around for “magnetic anythings” that Target said all they had was magnetic curtain rods. I didn’t act on them at the time, but buy them at a place like that?

I got a hoola hoop for the shower curtain but what you’re suggesting sounds SO much easier.
Thanks!

[I]I got mine at K-mart. The ends are separate from the rod part, so you can extend the rod (or shorten it) or place shower rings on it, then pop the end back on. I use a corner by a door in the horse section, that way I can access the porta potti from outside without getting mud/hay/etc in the living part. The door/wall and the short wall form one “L” of the ‘room’ the shower curtain, hung on two rods forms the other “L”. I’ve been using a cloth shower curtain since that lets the air thru, making it cooler, but I can see where a plastic curtain would have its benefits too.

I get amused, at the rodeo’s I go to, all of us that don’t have LQ’s get together to discuss new ideas that work well. One woman told me (she has a rather open stock trailer) that she replaced those small canisters on her coleman heater with a full sized propane tank using tubing (I didn’t actually see this, so I’d be no help there). The small canisters only last about 8 hours on a cold weekend (they do High School Rodeo all year) while the full sized propane tank (like on a grill or camper) will last all weekend, sometimes two weekends or more.

That same family sleeps on cots, I prefer a good foam filled mattress on the ‘goose’ part of my gooseneck. After a very cold weekend filled with rain in May of last year, 8 hours from home, I started looked for a gooseneck. I kept the bp stock trailer, love the thing for its versatility, but after one night in a horrendous thunderstorm floating on a air mattress in several inches of water despite the tarp wrapped on the wind side, I decided my life was worth more that the cost of a used Goose. Found a nice used Bee here on COTH :smiley: Saving money is good, but not at the cost of my (or my kids) life. Thankfully, the horse had a stall that weekend, I was jealous of her.

Anyone have suggestions for a good battery operated fan? I didn’t find one last year, forgot to look again this spring, so my choices are probably limited, but I will need one in the next couple of weeks. Rodeo’s rarely have hookups for electric.

I am amazed at the stuff people bring for a 2 day campout. Do you really need a microwave, a toaster oven, AND a grill? You can make almost anything on that one burner propane stove. I’m just as happy with oatmeal as I am with Bacon, eggs and potatoes tho. I bring along hard boiled eggs for protein, they are great. Wraps take up less room than bread, don’t get squished either :wink: Someone on here mentioned putting the ice on top of the food (why didn’t I think of that?) that works great, especially if you can leave it right in the bag, will last most of the weekend. I do have a separate cooler for drinks that gets opened more often.

Lollipops are great for a pick up on the long trail rides, but be careful, I’ve almost given myself a new throat opening when I bent over to get under a tree…A granola bar saved my life this weekend when I forgot to bring my lunch, I really didn’t care that it had been in my riding buddies bag for a year or so :eek:

I know you didn’t ask for all this info Jo, but I had to put it somewhere! :lol:

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Well, in some ways you do need most of the same stuff for a 2-day camping weekend that you do for a week. But not nuker, grill and toaster oven, lol, that’s overkill. But I was thinking that last week – heater, HWOD (which I do want to have along), tent, sleeping bag, pillow, camp mattress, propane batteries, tarps – awk. I don’t think you’d need much more for a 1-2 week trip except more food, paper goods, fuel and clothes.

Whoever said to put the food under the ice was right. Heat rises, cold sinks. I always freeze 16-oz bottles of water rock hard, and use them for cold as a base in the floor, PLUS the ice cubes at the top. As the weekend wears on, the bottled water melts, or begins to, and so you have ice water. Another neat trick for putting food down into the coldest place and getting it out easily… if you buy bagged oranges, be careful how you rip the orange net bag, and keep it intact. You can put food items you’re going to use together (e.g., lunch meat, cheese) together and drop it down in there, top of bag labeled. If you want to make a sandwich, just quickly grab the tagged net bag and yank it out.

Walmart carries a very decent battery operated fan, I bought 2 of them. O2 Cool (aptly named) – about $12.00 each, 10-inch fan, it takes 8 D batteries, a lot but if you need a fan, you won’t care. I just consider the batteries and propane “utilities.”

I had to kill an hour at Walmart this afternoon while my truck was being worked on, and their only magnet curtain rods were sash rods, very small. But I’ll keep looking.

You call it small that you only have a 5-foot dressing room you converted into LQ, lol. I’d LOVE a 5-foot width room out there, I could already tell that this weekend. But I think I’m at the sparce end of space, I’m using the stalls themselves and a 38-inch wide walkway across the front of a 2H BP. Optimistic, however, I figure it’s only a matter of time until I have it nailed how to do it and not be driven nuts.

Another neat snack on trails is dried fruit. A friend took me to Costco where I’m not a member and I discovered Costco is a ton nicer than BJs or Sam’s Club from everything I could see. But they had a humungous bag of mixed fruit, cheap. I didn’t have a lot of hope for it, but it’s delicious. Ditto nuts since they’re pretty nutritious, and the two (dried fruit and nuts) go together really well, don’t take up much room and you can’t crush them.

For strong magnets with and attitude I went to the salvage yard at the dump. I took the magnets off of the old speakers. Those things can be hell for stout. Most welding supply shops carry a never ending supply of magnets to brace parts as they are welded. Not cheap but certainly stout. Check out the army surplus stores they often have some good ones. As a last resort try this page. http://www1.mscdirect.com/CGI/N2DRVSH?SISHNO=1476395&SISRCH=1&SIS0NO=303402&SIT4NO=8709408&SIOR=1
They have some magnets that will pull 200 lbs. Never give a geek a challenge to find a geek toy. :smiley:

LF

LostFarmer, thanks for the link. I’d done a google on magnets some time ago and found another site that explained the numbering system for their strength (1 through 9 I think) and can’t find it again. It had various shapes of magnets with their strengths listed. I sort of thought there would be some source for them already on hooks, etc., so just filed it in the back of my mind… whereupon the link I THOUGHT I’d saved isn’t anywhere to be found.

The hooks Gabz mentioned at TruValue, etc. may work out just fine as they do seem reasonably strong. Sorta only time will tell. But since you mentioned computers and speakers, where in those would you find the magnets?? Unfortunately I junked two computers that were relics, but quite some time ago. Wish I’d waited on those now that I know there’s a hidden treasure to be found in them, lol.

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Geez! Could you imagine trying to pull that thing off a trailer wall to use! :no: I’d have to bring along a crowbar to pry it loose. However, I like the idea of salvaging magnets from old speakers. :yes: And I love Lawndart’s suggestion on using the magnetic curtain rods for a shower. Clever!!

I have a Coleman battery powered fan. Bought it a few years back. It is still in the box, unused. I’m probably going to get the Fantastic Fan (roof vented fan) – I’ve seen them in action and they are POWERFUL little buggers than can really pull in a nice breeze through your windows and blow out the hot air. However, you need a power source for them. For those who don’t carry a battery/inverter or have access to electricity, a simple hand-cranked roof vent is almost every bit as good as a battery fan. Anything that allows hot air to escape will aid in keeping the trailer cool.

Since I have an open floor plan in my 18’ gooseneck, I use every bit of that space for myself once my guy is in his corral outside. Lots of walk-about room, although I generally “live” in the front of the trailer (which is about 12’x7’ - not counting the overhang which is where I sleep and store my clothing), and use one of the back stalls for storage of horse blankets, feed, hay, saddle (on floor rack). I’ll use the stall that my guy stood in for miscellaneous stuff that I don’t need on a continual basis, yet don’t want underfood – like the ice chest, grooming box, propane box (with extra canisters), electrical supply box, etc. You can temporarily stash quite a bit in a 3.5’ x 6’ space. :smiley:

I have a Mr. Buddy heater. WOrks with the small propane canister or can be attached via hose connector to a larger tank.
If you use the large tank, put it in a milk crate in the bed of your pickup for transporting. You can also make a hole in the wall of your trailer, close it with a dryer vent or get the actual flap thing from an RV place. Then, run the approved hose connector through the hole from the tank in the bed of your truck into the trailer area where you are sleeping / eating. You can use the pool noodles or the grey pipe foal insulators to “pad” the hole to prevent ripping the gas hose.

I put beverages in one cooler; food in another. Use baskets (look in the bathroom section) for food stuff. I prefer to use gallon & 1/2 gallon milk jugs of frozen water to keep food cold… less water than with cubes; plus, as the gallon jug thaws, I have water to drink. It also stays cold MUCH longer than individual bottles of water. While having the cold above the food is more efficient, it’s a bigger pain in the buttski… Lay a piece of bubble wrap over the top of the food before closing the lid to keep the cold in.

Muddy Creek makes EXCELLENT water-proof long coats and pants / chap like pants. VERY lightweight, very water proof: they are made from some sort of micro-fiber.

I bought a vinyl / zippered closet bag. It has the coat hanger thingy at the top and is meant to hang long dresses in. Put all bedding in one of those to prevent it from getting wet. I used to wet the hay for my horse in his 2H straight load, with managers… I never thought about it leaking into the dressing room area. I was glad my bedding was in the vinyl carrying case. I was able to put the vinyl case on the floor (that was wet) and put the sleeping bag/mattress on top.

Gabz, you are hot ticket. Among other things, the bubble wrap seems like a good solution, because while the food “should” be at the bottom, you’re right, it’s a royal pain to deal with it that way. I like the individual water containers for tons of convenience, but it sure wouldn’t hurt to pack in some bigger bulk water containers when longevity is an issue. As for bedding, next time I’m going to put it in those XXL ziplock bags, because those suckers are waterproof! I’m amazed it took them so long to make the huge bags, but now that they have, they make life a whole lot easier.

Aren’t those pool noodles great?? Dang, they lend themselves to tons of uses!