I dont know TB’s from Adam, but the pic of the colt being ponied on the track is to die for- what a cute face what with the big white blaze and all.
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On another TB color note, a maximal sabeeeeeno (i.e pure white) just won the G2 Japanese Oaks.[/QUOTE]
Cool! Do you have a “win” photo of him? 
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Here are a few photos of Gifted Gold the filly in KY.
http://www.norsirefarms.com/giftedgold7half1.jpg
http://www.norsirefarms.com/giftedgold7half22.jpg
http://www.norsirefarms.com/fullofhappiness061thumb2.jpg
It will be interesting to see how this filly does at Keenland.
I will let you know how the one that is staring in Jan. 2009 does once he starts racing. :yes:
Happy Holidays to everyone!!! :D[/QUOTE]
Are you referring to the “colt” in these photos above? If so it is actually a filly and she is not being ponied…maybe you are referring to another photo?
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Cool! Do you have a “win” photo of him? :)[/QUOTE]
Japanese Oaks.
Btw, Tall Poppy who won the Japanese Oaks G1 is not white, she’s bay.
Vineyridge is probably thinking of Yukichan, the winner of the Kanto Oaks G2 on dirt, who is a well bred race horse who by chance happens to be white.
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Japanese Oaks.
Btw, Tall Poppy who won the Japanese Oaks G1 is not white, she’s bay.
Vineyridge is probably thinking of Yukichan, the winner of the Kanto Oaks G2 on dirt, who is a well bred race horse who by chance happens to be white.[/QUOTE]
Thank you for the photos.
What’s her name? Have you a link to that?
Hate to be the voice of reason, here, but she will probably about what other horses with no racing page but are a quirky color have gone for in previous Kentucky sales - not much. Especially that late in the sale.
See post #24
How much did the last palomino bring at auction, any idea? And wasnt there one in Australia that actually did go for a decent $ but with a nice pedigree to go along with it? My memory is going… it’s the OldsHeimer’s kicking in.
A question about the sire standing. Is that just number of mares they bred too? Does that have anything to do with the performance of the foals or the stallion?
I got this interesting e-mail today about the palomino filly going through the sale in Jan. Seems there is a lot of talk on the subject…but none of the TB Palominos at this point have much of a racing pedigree…including mine. Very interesting prospective from someone who has bred a few palominos and would love to see them race and win someday.
This was the e-mail sent to her below.
Please take a moment to have a look at the attached advertisement.
In the past decade there have been hundreds of thousands of thoroughbreds paraded through the prestigious Keeneland sales pavillion. During that stretch there have been horses listed as black, brown, chestnut, gray, roan, gray/roan, bay, dark bay/brown and even white. In the upcoming January sale, Book 3 contains our entry as the FIRST JOCKEY CLUB REGISTERED PALOMINO THOROUGHBRED ever listed in a Keeneland sale catalogue.
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Her comments on the Keenland Sale.
I don’t think they did a very good ad for this sale… the picture was horrible and turned me off more than on. pretty washed out color, and looks small and not that great of conformation, the pictures just tells you nothing about the horse that is useful other than a cream colored horse. to go to Keeneland in this economy with a palomino I would have wanted one that was by a Lexington stallion out of a Palomino mare… so perhaps the dam was unraced, but the sire was a nice proven race stud, showing you had purpose in the breeding to point it towards racing and that is why it is at the Keeneland sale. .not just because it is a fluke of color, or at least be a very above average individual conformationally for what the race buyers are looking for. I can’t see if the knees are crooked but if they are and if it is small then I would be embarassed to have it there… It will be interesting to see what happens. I also would have tried to get my advertising to conform with the industry standard, not be so back yardish. Not the best of times to be doing this as people are really looking hard at the over breeding issues in the race world right now where people are just breeding too many unwanted horses for perceived personal gain and the economy can not support them, nor do the breeders once they are gone from thier farms and thier race careers are over… the rescues are all filled up and in Ky the hay shortage etc… I have culled out all of my personal mares and doing the same with the studs etc. Looking to castrate or place the studs, Sport horse people are not buying and neither are race clients, there is no reason to be breeding right now knowing that there will be very few outlets that can support the resulting horses properly, unless you plan to keep and race or show the prospect yourself.
That all said the paint lady did get a good price that year on her 2 paints at Keeneland… but the one that brought 80k was a nice individual… he had good looks. .that balanced build, with a big chest/hip very filled out stocky yet athletic individual, big and correct. That body type will sell at Keeneland as they look like early maturers that are powerful, balanced, big and athletic…but that price was a shock to me and many, mostly fueled by one crazy bidder, I would not expect that again. [edit] If it was a dark gold with a white mane/tail and training to the point of having some nice published works, but had no pedigree behind it, then maybe… but I expect it will bring 10k or less and that just does not make it worth the expense of sale prepping and getting it there in my opinion. I hope I’m proved wrong. But it will be something people will have fun talking about and the owner/consigner will get some attention. In the beginning it will be good attention, I just hope it stays that way when it is all said and done. The press are hungry for some sacraficial lambs on the horse over population issue. Keeneland sales are down and the sales have cataloged the most ever horses this year… driving the averages down to just a few thousand dollars for even horses with 15-30k stud fees paid. For a client I purchased a super handsome El Corredor yearling for 7k (25k stud fee) that was correct, big, and had a clean scope and xrays, and out of a stake mare. The purses in Ky are so low right now that people are not paying much for the horses anyway. Indiana breds will bring more money.
My trainer had some fun talking about my colt as he was at a stake table with some big trainer clients of his and they did bring up the palomino entry at Keeneland he was having fun with being able to say yep I’ve got a palo in the barn in training, and had pictures on his cell phone to prove it… it has brought many to actually realize that palominos exist and are registered… but I think that is about it, just gee wiz talk. I told my trainer to tell everyone he is for sale and even though it is brought up in conversation no one has said cool I"ll buy him! ha. I still would LOVE to see a palomino race in Ky… even if it is not mine… the lady that owns the website said if I had one in training at Churchill Downs track it would sell when people there saw it… I"m not so sure.
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I got a flyer on it too…but it is too big for COTH attachment…so don’t think I can post it here. But it shows the filly out grazing in the field with her dam as a baby…not very flattering photo and she is now 2 so…they should have done a more updated photo of the filly going through the sale…this is why she talks about in the above comments they did not do a great job promoting the filly for the sale.
I can e-mail the flyer to anyone who wants to see the flyer.
We received a heads-up re: this thread, so we added some quotes to the previous post to clarify who was saying what and removed a few specific comments re: horses for sale. 
Think we got the quote placement right, Blonde Filly, but feel free to move 'em around if we didn’t.
You’re welcome to discuss the concept of palominos in the racing industry, etc., with this filly going through Keeneland as a jumping off point; just limit the references to specific horses for sale.
Thanks!
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What day is this sale in Jan? No one mentioned that in any of the above post. TIA
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What day is this sale in Jan? No one mentioned that in any of the above post. TIA :)[/QUOTE]
12-17 January are the sale dates, and I think it will be streamed from their site.
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12-17 January are the sale dates, and I think it will be streamed from their site.[/QUOTE]
9 days to go!!!
There’s another palomino in race training - a 3 y.o. who may still be at Tampa Bay or may have moved. Canadian Light [I think] by Canadian Kid.
The Keeneland Sale
I am watching the sale now . There is a live feed to it . I can NOT believe the prices of some of the Broodmares. WOW , talk about expensive. I can not wait to see this filly go thru the sale.
Have any of you watched and noticed a trend of the prices.?
They are on Hip # 644 now !!!
Prices are down.
http://auctions.bloodhorse.com/article/48757.htm
Here is a blurb:
The results were grim, but not surprising, as Keeneland opened its January horses of all ages sale in Lexington during a time of worldwide economic downturns. The gross revenue Jan. 12 plummeted 44% from the auction’s first session in 2008 while the average price dropped 45.9%. The median price suffered the most damage, falling 50.9%.
It didn’t help Keeneland’s bottom line when Azeri, the 2002 Horse of the Year, failed to sell for a final bid of $4.4 million.
“It’s a very tough market, but if you’ve got some quality, you can get your horses sold,” said Duncan Taylor of Taylor Made Sales Agency. “I don’t really think it’s any worse than it was in November (during the 2008 Keeneland breeding stock sale). Some of the cheaper stuff here might have gotten hammered worse at the beginning because everybody was feeling each other out and the sale started off damn soft. But since some of the better stuff has gone through, the market seems pretty fair.”
The 202 horses that sold grossed $11,945,900 and averaged $59,138. The median was $27,000. Last year, 195 horses were sold during the first session for a gross of $21,325,900 and an average of $109,364. The median was $55,000.
The buy-back rate fell from 33% in 2008 to 26.5% this year.
If you want to try to analyze it, to me it does seem to me that the non- commercial and/or non “traditional” pedigrees are going for peanuts. If you have a nice commerical page then you are ok, but without that you’re in trouble.
I noticed they just had a Broodmare that did NOT sell ? Is that the first one for this sale.
Now explain to me . IF she did NOT sell and she is NOT in foal. Will the owners try again with her . Or will they just get rid of her .
I did notice she was about 12 yrs old though.
Just courious . 
