Panacur/fenbendazole/Safeguard worming for dogs and cats

Meghan-Sorry, I got the worm wrong. It’s the worm that comes through mother’s milk, roundworms. I was using pryantel pamoate for that, but fenbendazole gets that, too.

Giardia is confirmed on fecals after trying to treat it as coccydia with some success. The problem is original treatments seemed to work, so it didn’t seem to be a big problem until lately, and we could get a fecal. (Which is a huge pain in the ass as it has to be fresh–it’s probably worth it to buy the 15 snap tests for $160 to do at home to get it done, and one test at a vet is the same price.) I know it’s in the environment and is really hard to clean up, thus the problems with reinfestation. With confirmation, we’re trying to do a full force attack on everything at the same time to clean it out. Constantly cleaning litter boxes, washing everything, bleaching floors and cleaning, cleaning, cleaning.

Panacur is not a standard treatment vets would know because it’s not authorized in the U.S. Most of those using it are in shelter and kennel situations. All of the research I found on it officially was from the U.K. Most standard vets are dealing with individual households. Most vets don’t know about the MArquis for coccydia either unless they’re dealing with situations with many animals. Most vets don’t want to lose their licence, so recommending a treatment that is not approved in the U.S. can get them in trouble. Horse people tend to do things in a different way.

The ONE good thing about giardia is Safeguard is very palatable. Even my sweet cat who will turn into the devil and scratch your face off if you try to give her meds will eat the suspension on it’s own. The sulfa is super nasty and hard to give, and Marquis is really expensive.

  1. It’s not “coccydia” it’s coccidia.

  2. Most vets know about the panacur/safeguard treatment but no longer use it because it is not as effective. Hell, I know about it and I’m large animal.

3)It is legal to use a compounded product for a specific patient if there is not an equivalent approved product. You really should look into getting the ponazuril compounded for you, it will save you a lot of time, money, and headaches.

Grataan. Thanks. I’ll look into it.

Looking–it’s Marquis. Everything says it’s for coccidia. Do you know anything for use for giardia?

YEs, we all (should) know about panacur for giardia and marquis for coccidia. That is what continuing education is for. Heck I have done only CC/EC care for over 10 yrs, and anethesia before that and even I know about them!!

As for off label use of drugs vs loss of license…
If we didn’t use drugs off lable, we couldn’t practice!! We use them off lable all the time. We have to. So long as the drug is legal and there is proof the treatment is safe and effective, there is not a problem.

Ivermec

HEARTWORM PREVENTION

  1. First Choice - Buy Heartworm products at your local Veterinarian.

  2. OFF LABEL HEARTWORM TREATMENT for large numbers of dogs in Brown Box 50ml.

Off Label means for other animals, but can be used for dogs for heartworm protection.

To Use Orally

What --1% Ivomec Ivermectin Injection For Cattle and Swine Dewormer, 50 ML .
Where - Tractor Supply (In brown box) SEE ABOVE
Cost - $37 for a year’s supply
Dosage - 1/10th ml / .1 cc per 10 lbs for ORAL USE ONLY monthly

You extract what is needed each month from the 1% Ivomec Ivermectin Injection For Cattle and Swine Dewormer, 50 ml with a sterile 3cc syringe, monthly, put that amount into a clean brown medicine bottle — use that to measure individual dog dosages with a 1cc syringe, putting measured ivermectin on tasty dog food in individual dog plates each will gobble up.

Another option: From a post I found online: Off Label for dogs
—> VALBAZEN LIQUID CATTLE/SHEEP WORMER (active ingredient Abendazole)
At our animal shelter, the vet uses VALBAZEN to worm dogs. To effectively eliminate tapeworms, hookworms, round worms, whipworms, and Giardia parasites in dogs and puppies, treat them with “Valbazen” (active ingredient Abendazole) liquid cattle/sheep wormer 2 days in a row. Repeat in 21 days. Do not use this on pregnant dogs. This wormer is available at any feed store and is highly recommended by dog owners for over 25 years. It is recognized by vets to be effective.

VALBAZEN DOSAGE: give orally with food
Adult dog dosage is 1 cc per 10 lbs of body weight.
The puppy dose is 1/10 of cc per 10 lbs. of body weight.
This wormer can be used on the mother dog and pups. The recommended worming schedule is 2, 3, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12 and 15 weeks of age for pups and 2, 3, 4 weeks for the mom. This wormer also prevents and kills Giardia parasites.

[QUOTE=MeghanDACVA;5626563]
YEs, we all (should) know about panacur for giardia and marquis for coccidia. That is what continuing education is for. Heck I have done only CC/EC care for over 10 yrs, and anethesia before that and even I know about them!!

As for off label use of drugs vs loss of license…
If we didn’t use drugs off lable, we couldn’t practice!! We use them off lable all the time. We have to. So long as the drug is legal and there is proof the treatment is safe and effective, there is not a problem.[/QUOTE]Yep, what Meghan said. I called one of my friends who is a SA GP and she said she’s really liking sending out ponazuril for coccidia and the 5 day fenbendazole +/- (more often than not +) metronidazole.