Pasture surrounded by Sorghum crop question.

Dear members,

I would like some advice on a the following please.

If a pasture intended to be grazed by horses is immediately surrounded by sorghum crop (as in: the other side of the fence line, only two feet apart), is that pasture considered safe for horses?

How should such a pasture be maintained to prevent cross-contamination?

Some links suggest that the prussic acid in sorghum could cause cystitis and staggers in horses?

And what is the difference between regular and ‘sterile’ sorghum.

Thank you!

Not familiar with sorghum but I would be concerned about fertilizer and pestacides for sure

I would say that sterile sorghum means that it will not produce new plants. The sorghum we had didn’t go where it wasn’t planted.

We don’t put poisons over our hay.

I am in Australia so what I say may not be the same as where you are.

Sorghum has prussic acid which is bad when the plant is young or at any time the plant is stressed.

I had a tb that was in with the cattle. In the end I deemed him too dangerous to ride. He was like riding a tightrope. Good one day and taking off from a free walk the next day.

In the end I fixed the problem overnight by taking him out when the cattle were fed their sorghum hay and giving him a biscuit of Lucerne hay and put him back in the paddock when the cattle had finished eating.

We now only grow lucerne which is lethal to the cattle if they get in there but can graze up to the fence.

Both cattle and horses can eat lucerne hay.

For those that do not know, sorghum can be extremely toxic to horses.

We fed sorghum hay for a winter where I boarded/worked once.

I had no idea at the time that it had potential to be bad for the horses. Everyone did fine on it. No issues for 50+ horses.

SusieQNutter, what do you mean Lucerne is lethal to cattle?

Folks, what they call Lucerne, we call alfalfa.

Sorghum is a cane plant and those can be toxic at certain times, like after a dry spell or freeze or a burst of growth.

Other such plants are Johnson grass, that may grow wild right in your pastures or barditches and haygrazer.

When we baled any haygrazer as hay, we tested it to be sure it was not high in nitrates or cyanide.
Cyanide would go away in a week or so and the hay was fine then, but high nitrates will stay in the hay and can poison cattle or horses.
Horses are a little more sensitive than cattle, but not by much.

Any of those can be fed safely if it is tested clean, but we never did feed any such to horses because we didn’t want to take any chances.
We have raised and fed tons of haygrazer to cattle without any problems, but again, tested carefully first.
If any cane hay tests high in nitrates, generally is ground in feed rations, where the percentages become so low as not be a concern.
You just don’t want to feed that high testing cane hay directly to cattle.

A neighbor decades ago, before you could test for it, feed some haygrazer hay to his broodmares and had several affected and I think one or two may have died with kidney failure, the vet called it, terrible lesson for all.

Haygrazer is raised, tested and fed to cattle here in the winter without any problems.
Plenty of people here fed cane hay to horses now, but they test it very carefully.

To have any fields of any kind of cane next to your fence should not matter, as long as your horses don’t get in there the few times that cane is poison, like for a few days after a freeze.

Most sorghum is harvested as grain here, rarely someone makes hay out of the field after harvest, or makes hay out of a field that didn’t make it as grain.
The cane raised as hay are all those haygrazer specialty seeds.
That is because here we dryland farm those, may be different where you are and that may change how you manage those crops, test and such.

You should call your vet and they should tell you what to do, all this may change and demand different management, depending on where you live.

I think she might be saying that the lucerne/alfalfa is lethal for grazing in the pasture for fear of bloat.

Thank you all for helpful information!

Most sorghum is harvested as grain here, rarely someone makes hay out of the field after harvest, or makes hay out of a field that didn’t make it as grain.

Yes, it will be harvested as grain.

I will contact the farmer for a confirmation that ‘sterile’ sorghum will be used to prevent it seeding into the pasture.

Two feet away from your fence, your horse can stretch that far to eat at it. Be careful.

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I think she might be saying that the lucerne/alfalfa is lethal for grazing in the pasture for fear of bloat.[/QUOTE]

That was my guess too. But I did not want non cow folk to get the wrong ideas. COTH is educational. Hate to see folks walking away with misunderstandings-even about cows.

Yes lucerne in the paddock can bloat and kill a cow in hours. That is why I said that both cattle and horses can eat lucerne hay.

We also have electric fences around the crops so no one is putting their heads through to try to eat.

Fence is fully electrified top & bottom, no concerns about grazing under of over.