Patent boot tops

Unhijacking, brief warning

Journeyman added brown tops to a pair of black boots for me back in '85 or so. They did a fine job, BUT- recognize that the addition of the tops makes for a tighter fit at the top of the boot! Okay, actually, it was mainly only an issue for donning said boots for the Bryn Mawr pack class on a hot day after running around showing hounds all day…but I’ll offer up the warning anyway.:cool:

Ok, I spoke with the Russian cobbler and he can put tops on. He wasn’t sure what he would charge and I need to call back. He said he makes them to snap on/off. My husband is also checking with Dehner to see if he still has an account if I want to go that direction. If he still has an account that means dealer price which will probably sway me into getting a pair of hunting specific boots made. It would probably be my last chance to get dealer price on custom Dehners. It’s not much of a discount but it is something.

On frock coats. I’m confused. Do I get one with three buttons or four on the front?

Amazing how I never paid much attention before but most of our colored ladies do have patent tops and at least half of them wear them with a regular hunt coat. I’m taking my heavy coat off to get colors and buttons put on this weekend. I think I’m going to order a Frock coat with the lighter weight twill but with the tattersall lining which would put it in between the two coats I have. I have the lighter weight and heavier weight hunt coats from Alexander James. Fortunately the pound is in worse shape than the dollar so they coats don’t seem to be priced too bad right now.

http://www.alexander-james.co.uk/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_Ladies_Riding___Equestrian_11.html

Three!! :smiley:

3 buttons, rounded corners = member of field
4 buttons, rounded corners = MFH
4 buttons, square corners = MFH that hunts his own hounds
5 buttons, square corners = professional huntsman

[quote=Painted Wings;3649143]Amazing how I never paid much attention before but most of our colored ladies do have patent tops and at least half of them wear them with a regular hunt coat.
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Oh, my eyes…:eek:
Obviously, they didn’t read their “Riding to Hounds in North America” book… :wink:

[QUOTE=Painted Wings;3649143]
… If he still has an account that means dealer price which will probably sway me into getting a pair of hunting specific boots made. It would probably be my last chance to get dealer price on custom Dehners. It’s not much of a discount but it is something.[/QUOTE]

Get the custom Dehners. You will be glad you did. Mine fit perfectly, are tough as nails, and I can even walk in them :slight_smile:

btw, congrats on earning your colors :winkgrin::winkgrin::winkgrin:

Actually, MFH/huntsman would be 5, too, but MFH not hunting hounds would be 4. To state it another way, the huntsman wears 5 buttons.
And 4 buttons, square corners for whipper-in (I had to remove the top button off the old coat I bought from a retired Master and tweak the lapels a bit with an iron:)).

Interesting Trivia

My mother-in-law said the reason that the huntsman has five buttons is so that the buttons are spaced closed together so the huntsman can stick the horn between buttons and the horn won’t fall out.

I do have “riding to hounds in North America”. I’ll have to see what it says on the subject.

I think the difference in buttons originated with English military uniforms, but I can’t remember what I was told about the details!

Oh, I die laughing!

[QUOTE=JSwan;3648204]
I had that trouble with peppermints.

The good thing is that they work their way around the lining and act like drapery weights and keep your jacket from flopping around.

Bad thing is that horses keep trying to eat the jacket at checks.[/QUOTE]

Oh thank you, I’m now weeping with laughter at the thought. Thank you!

Winter boots

I know this thread has been dead for a while but I went out Sunday and my feet were cold. I was wearing my cubbing boots which are not insulated at all so haven’t had a chance to try my new Dehners with the insulated foot in cold weather yet.

But my question is:

Does anyone have a pair of thes Cavallo Winter boots? If so how do they run size wise? I normally wear a 7 1/2 and buy a Euro 38 but I’m wondering if I would want a Euro 39 so that I had plenty of room for socks since my Dehners are insulated and I would only use these when its really cold. But on the other hand I can sometimes wear a 37 so a 38 might be large enough.

I’m still thinking I might want a pair of these for the really cold days.

http://www.calevo.com/cgi-bin/calevo/process/locale/en_US/page/2130157.html

Cavallos run a bit small. It’s kinda funny. I have a pair of their paddock boots, and I normally wear a 40-41 Euro, but I had to go up a size (or two) to get the right fit.

[QUOTE=linquest;3648179]
Ugh, my flask ripped through the pocket yesterday and was flopping around inside the jacket lining, kept hitting me and the saddle. While galloping, I had to hold the reins in one hand and the errant flask in the other so it wouldn’t rip the lining (and more importantly, so I wouldn’t lose the flask or whiskey :lol: ) I was relieved we soon had a check so I could fish out the darn thing and put it in the other pocket! Now I need someone to sew in a deeper pocket with sturdier material![/QUOTE]

Or rig up a daypack with a hydration system that fits under your coat, and run the hydration tube under your helmet harness. THAT won’t flop around:lol:

Definitely Congrats! Even if the thread is a year old…
I sold a pair of detatchable patent tops last month on ebay. Had I known you needed them, I would have GIVEN them to you, PaintedWings!

Quick question. Anyone know where I can find detachable brown tops?

Dehner.

Check some of the fox hunting shops in Va, they may have some used ones in stock. The Old Habit, Middleburg Tack exchange… or maybe the Foxhunting shop in Ar might have some, or be able to order some for you. they are fairly inexpensive for their brand of custom boots. Possibly the Horse Mall too, in Ct.

I cannot recommend highly enough Journeymens for this kind of job! On my black hunting boots, Paul just did a beautiful job both taking in and then replacing the brown tops, making them detachable, so that I could switch to patent tops when I needed to. The attention to detail was fabulous, they were REALLY quick, as completed within a few days and as always charming and entertaining!!!