Not a fan of the show- the cast of characters bug me for some reason. But hubby watches it. Vegas is only a couple hours a way, we’ve been to the shop (which TV makes it seem so much bigger). When the relatives come out to visit, they’ve already requested a stop to check it out.
Would have like to see the saddles though- maybe I’ll watch that episode.
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If you check out my website under my signature, you can learn a bit about parade saddles. I didn’t see the episode but the price given means they were most likely made by Ted Flowers and are not sterling. A top sterling parade set made by Edward Bohlin, who was considered one of the best parade saddle makers of the time, will command much more money even in today’s market. My husband and I collect Ted Flowers sets and most of them range anywhere from $3,000 to $8,000. Occasionally one will sell for more but because he didn’t make many sterling sets, pricing is more reasonable - at least by parade saddle standards.;)[/QUOTE]
the appraiser I believe said he regularly sees them sell for 6K each and sometimes up to 8,500…and they did say on the show the saddles were not sterling with no dents, dings or missing pieces. And yes, they were Ted Flowers saddles. I did see the show/don’t recall the price but I think the PS folks paid in the ballpark of 3 or 4K each? As noted, they do need to pay less than retail for stuff in a pawnshop. Making money off of it is what they do. If someone wants full retail, a pawnshop is not the place to take it in the first place…
[QUOTE=bludejavu;5179617]
SA -
I watch that show a good bit with my DH but it figures I’d miss the episode that would interest me the most.[/QUOTE]
Me too!!!
camohn - I have to agree with you concerning pawn shops not being the best place to go. They’re a great place for fast money but not if you want true value for your possessions. But…in our present economy, there are so many people in desperate situations that it’s more understandable now why they resort to pawn shops. The saddest thing about these antique parade sets is that many people don’t have a clue about how to upkeep them and if they are not maintained properly, their collectible value goes down the tubes real quick.
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Hearing a TV theme in the back…
wait a minute…
it’s getting clearer…
Ohhh, right!
SANFORD AND SON…
:lol:[/QUOTE]
Yup, my husband even has the 1954 Ford Pickup just like Sanford and Son. But his is green, not red.
Pawn Stars Parade Saddles
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Unfortunately I could not find a video of this show on the internet; but I did find the above page that has what looks like a script. The appraiser is Mark Allen and he is a big collector of Western Memoralbilia and saddles. He describes the 2 saddles as good condition( and he would know). He also says they are a Parade Chief model and an Indiana model.
Both of these models would be what we call “full silver” models in the parade saddle business. $4,000 would definitely be “wholesale” price. His appraisal at $6000 to $8500 was pretty much dead on. A good, complete full “matching” (all the accesories match)silver set would actually sell pretty quick at $6000. More commonly they sell in the $7000 to $9000 range. More if they are especially nice, rare, or being sold by a respected dealer/auction. Top collectors are getting more knowlegable and will pay good money for a really good saddle set.
Some silver patterns fetch more than others and are more desirable (the Indiana would be more desirable than a Parade Chief).
Ted Flowers also made lower level models that just have silver around the edges. Those sets generally can be seen selling in the $3000 -$6,000 range.
Keep an eye on the TV schedule on History.com. They usually rerun them within a within a week or two. I haven’t seen it again yet.
I slightly know a couple of people who were visited by “Pickers”. But they basically knew what their stuff was worth, so Pickers were not very interested.
But “Chasing Classic Cars” did part of an episode on one of the cars in my father’s estate. Title is something like “Barn Find 375MM” . Yes, my father’s collection (10 cars, 40 motorcycles) lived in an old milking parlor and hay loft (90’ x 30’), so I guess it WAS a “barn find”.
So you DO read COTH!;)
Welcome to the board.
LOL!!! :lol:
We were pickin’ long before it was called “pickin’.” It was called “going over to a neighbor’s old farm to go through the old buildings and get stuff in payment for helping tear the barn down.” LOL
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Unfortunately I could not find a video of this show on the internet; but I did find the above page that has what looks like a script. The appraiser is Mark Allen and he is a big collector of Western Memoralbilia and saddles. He describes the 2 saddles as good condition( and he would know). He also says they are a Parade Chief model and an Indiana model.
Both of these models would be what we call “full silver” models in the parade saddle business. $4,000 would definitely be “wholesale” price. His appraisal at $6000 to $8500 was pretty much dead on. A good, complete full “matching” (all the accesories match)silver set would actually sell pretty quick at $6000. More commonly they sell in the $7000 to $9000 range. More if they are especially nice, rare, or being sold by a respected dealer/auction. Top collectors are getting more knowlegable and will pay good money for a really good saddle set.
Some silver patterns fetch more than others and are more desirable (the Indiana would be more desirable than a Parade Chief).
Ted Flowers also made lower level models that just have silver around the edges. Those sets generally can be seen selling in the $3000 -$6,000 range.[/QUOTE]
I have been following this thread with interest after seeing the comments about the saddles on Pawn Stars. The above quote is pretty much on the spot for pricing and questioning the condition of the leather, dents, etc, which could not be ascertained from the brief shots on the program.
Susan N has also made some excellent comments in this regard and she has become quite knowledgeable concerning these saddles. I suggest that anyone with interest in acquiring a parade saddle seek the advice of a professional with parade saddle experience to guide their choice as condition and value swings over a wide range. If your interest is such I invite you to look over the saddle page on my website: www.pvsaddleshop.com. I will be glad to answer honest questions but, for the privacy of my clients, I will not quote sale prices over the Internet.
Please care for and use these historic parade saddle with care. They are truly an American Icon.
Happy Trails,
Dusty
www.pvsaddleshop.com
Hello Dusty and welcome to the board!
For anyone reading this thread, there are very few true professionals in the parade saddle business. Palomino 99 and Dusty Johnson are both some of the most knowledgeable and professional people in the business. I know them both personally and I owe much of my knowledge to both of them.
Pretty cool for them to take the time to come here and play!
Welcome!
I saw the PS episode and was surprised someone took the saddles to a pawn shop.
Since I know nuthin about these saddles other than they are heavy and gorgeous, perhaps someone can tell me about the one on the horse in this link: http://www.tierrescue.org/Nickers.htm
There are pictures at the top and further down. Don’t know if the photos provide enough detail though. Just curious.
I’m sure CA_ASB will check in and fill us in if someone alerts her.
LOL, the saddle that whoanellie is linking to was bought from Dusty as were many that bluedejavu has.
Dusty has also restored my other saddle.
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To keep this thread horse-related, anyone else seen any really good/bad/bizarre/weirdly mislabled horse-related items in antique malls, goodwills, etc?[/QUOTE]
OMG!! This bugs the heck outta me!!..I see those old felt helmets that have the elastic chin strap all the time!!! And people try to sell them for $40+!!! Can you imagine!! I just shake my head! lol
I do regret not buying an old military saddle I believe it was civil war era…for like $200!
Yes! I saw an Hermes saddle at an auction about 10 years ago. It was clearly never used, had probably been sitting in someone’s living room for 10-15 years. Never oiled but in excellent condition, stitching good, etc. Just needed a dip in some oil for a few days. I didn’t bid and it went for $75. I’m still kicking myself - should have bought it, oiled it up and sold it on ebay.
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I love that show but always wonder why people expect the owners to give the fair market value! The shop owners need to make a profit and why would you take an expensive item to a pawn shop when you could get so much more at auction or private sale? I think a lot of those who bring stuff into that particular store need the $$$ ASAP to either go gamble or pay off gambling debts![/QUOTE]
Exactly. I always get so pissed about folks coming in and selling grandpa’s prized WWII uniform or some such, at bottom dollar.
I can’t help thinking that they are either just trying to get on TV or they are feeding their gambling habit.
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