Photo-Manipulating/ Picture Altering?

[skydy]

@Where'sMyWhite

I’ve never bought or sold a horse using photos but I would be inclined to agree.

Horses, especially racehorses, so much more than other species don’t rely on photos. Many other animals are based on “looks” but the horse has to be more than good looks… legs need to be clean, straight, good bone, good conformation or the likelihood is they won’t do their job well. Pretty much most of those “other” animal industries of which you refer are not spending hundreds of thousands (potentially) of dollars on an animal. Racehorses, yup, some sell cheap but the big sales have the potential of selling huge.

Buyers/agents put eyes on the horse as well as having the resources of x-rays, etc to fall back on. If I’m dropping 6+ figures on a horse, a photo isn’t going to do that. That pretty picture is just that, a pretty picture.

Very true, and the manner in which the horse moves is of the utmost importance to buyers of racing stock. “Pretty” is nice but movement is a huge factor and you can’t see that in a photo.

[Mara]

@LaurieB

The good thing about Darley, though, is that if you go to their website and open the individual stallion pages, each one has really good candid shots of the horses and some also have videos. Those pages show a lot more of the stallions than you can see in their official photos.

https://www.darleyamerica.com/

Yes, both Darley and Coolmore have fantastic websites.

[Where_sMyWhite]

Bearing in mind that photos of stallions on big farm breeding pages like Coolmore or Darley are in a way different, at least IMO, league than photos of youngsters that will be at the Keeneland September sale

By the time that name stallion gets to the breeding farm, maybe don’t know what he throws if he’s “young” but you most likely know their on-track performance as well as pedigree. You’ve more than likely seen him race as well. Maybe not a good up-and-back but a clear idea of their on-track style and performance.

The babies, much less “practical” information to work with as their on-track performance other than maybe their 1f breeze times (which seem often to not pan out in real track performance) just isn’t there yet.

[Palm_Beach]

@skydy

Very true, and the manner in which the horse moves is of the utmost importance to buyers of racing stock. “Pretty” is nice but movement is a huge factor and you can’t see that in a photo.

Actually, it’s pedigree, conformation, then movement; at least until they are of racing age.

[LaurieB]

@Palm Beach

Actually, it’s pedigree, conformation, then movement; at least until they are of racing age.

I would disagree. Buyer preferences seems to go in cycles, but the days when a good pedigree was everything are long past. Currently movement (even walking at a yearling sale) and conformation matter much more than what’s on the page.

[Palm_Beach]

@LaurieB

I would disagree. Buyer preferences seems to go in cycles, but the days when a good pedigree was everything are long past. Currently movement (even walking at a yearling sale) and conformation matter much more than what’s on the page.

I have to disagree. They need a pedigree or they don’t get the good price. If you want to point out some no-bred horses that sold well, feel free to do so.

[roseymare]

That photo “manipulation” is meager. Go watch a good Dairy Cattle photog!

[EventerAJ]

@Palm Beach

I have to disagree. They need a pedigree or they don’t get the good price. If you want to point out some no-bred horses that sold well, feel free to do so.

What’s Your Thesis (2011 by Tiz Wonderful) sold for $200k as a yearling. There is some black type on the dam, but Tiz Wonderful was not a big-money sire. This horse is very correct, big, and good-looking, I think most of his price was due to physical and not as much pedigree. http://apps.keeneland.com/sales/Sep13/pdfs/1341.pdf

[Palm_Beach]

@EventerAJ

What’s Your Thesis (2011 by Tiz Wonderful) sold for $200k as a yearling. There is some black type on the dam, but Tiz Wonderful was not a big-money sire. This horse is very correct, big, and good-looking, I think most of his price was due to physical and not as much pedigree. http://apps.keeneland.com/sales/Sep13/pdfs/1341.pdf

I wouldn’t call that horse no-bred. Tiz Wonderful was doing well and no one would kick the dam out of the barn.

[Brigid]

OK. Can we “please” stop the floggings?
Roseymare? On THIS thread, I don’t give a bat-outta-my-butt for cattle, dairy or beef!
This is about Thoroughbred racehorses. OK?
Fwiw, I KNOW what is done to 4H, pigs, beef, etc.