please give banamine if your vet approves. You can give it orally with a syringe.
Good luck. Even though it costs $, it is always better to get the vet out right away.
Colic is awful.
My horse had the exact same symptoms as yours and it was a massive impaction and displacement! Please have the vet come out and tube your horse, or trailer them to the clinic… the second time it happened we scoped and voila pyloric ulcers causing the stomach to not being able to empty…if we hadn’t got him to the vet his stomach would’ve ruptured THAT is how much reflux they had to get out!
Yours has has gone on long enough I’d no longer be just waiting and giving banamine!
Have you gotten the vet out yet? Think it would be a real good idea. Colic can go bad real fast please don’t play wait and see.
It is time for the vet to put his/her hands on the horse and pony, IMHO.
OP you are 3 and half days into some form of colic – two horses. You must get the vet there as others have urged. At some point banamine isn’t going to help – especially if heart rates get severely elevated + gums start to lose color which could mean a toxicity, and a fast downhill from there without immediate veternary attention.
WE can’t help your horses – only you can. Please get the vet there.
This, 10 thousand times. I cannot believe the ‘best Vet in the State’ would not have gotten out to see the horse by now, unless owner is putting them off, and just stringing us along…SMH.
Edited to add, I am hoping both equines survive, but if they do, it will be a miracle considering the not so benign neglect in the form of not getting Vet out to actually see the animals.
Are you kidding me? Neglect? Do you know how much I have been doing for these ponies? ,?i came here for support … Input… Help … Whatever. I have been worried to death.! A number of posters said call vet … I have been in contact with them since Monday morning!
They check in regularly. I have been following their advice!! And then some! I have asked a number of times … When is this urgent … The case with these girls is they are not being consistent … When vet checks in … They are nearly back to normal … They recommend feeding this or that after a period. Sometimes it was helpful and help stimulate gas and BMs and everyone back to near normal. When attempted grass again … Relapse but only for a short while. Last several checks alert and hungry. I am new with these horses and this vet … He believes most Colics like this resolves on their own but I am sure he would be over if symptoms were consistent… Or worse or not getting better!
I absolutly cannot believe you wrote this to someone coming here for help and support during a vulnerable and very stressful time. What an awful and insensitive thing to to write!
Thank you to all of you posters who have offered nonjudgmental help … But to those of you who think it is perfectly fine to be so harsh and disrespectful to posters … I really hope you will rethink how you treat others.
i have seen some really harsh things said to one another on this forum … It is plain awful and depressing. I am sure it turns away many people!
Also, to the ones who are so judgemental to others, consider this… You didn’t always know what you … You learned it at some point from someone else.
You are not being helpful when you are Telling someone what to do … Especially in such a judgemental manner.
@Jjb That’s a little unfair. There is no way under the sun a vet can adequately treat colic over the phone without doing a proper exam. It’s not only stupid, it’s blatant malpractice. You “messaged” the vet. Are you talking to a vet that has ever seen your horse or are you using something like “just answer”???
This horse could have a twisted gut, an impaction, proximal enteritis etc. you do realize that with any of the afore mentioned conditions, your horse could be dead before your vet reaches the farm. You posted that your horse was kicking his belly and rolling and not wanting to walk because he wanted to lay down and roll. That is full blown colic. The situation is not resolving, it is getting worse. Your horse needs an exam, and probably lab work to be certain they didn’t eat a toxin and tank their liver. What vet are you messaging? If they are not recommending an exam at this point, find another one. I’d call my vet ONCE about a Colic that he didn’t break the sound barrier to get to my farm and it would be my last call to him.
You came here for advice. You’ve been given advice to get a vet out to examine the horse. Please don’t bash this board because you decide not to take the advice. Regardless of the wonderful care you have provided, there is very possibly a process going on that you can’t fix yourself. That needs to be ruled out before you continue trying to handle this on your own. @sdlbredfan doesn’t deserve your ire, and neither does the board in general or anyone who doesn’t agree with this weird hands off approach this vet has. You seem to be very resistant to actually having a vet out and that does smell like fish. Sorry, but it does. You’ve done everything for the horse except what you needed to do when this didn’t resolve in 24 hours. Insist he comes out or find a different vet. We can’t treat colic on a board no matter how many anecdotes we share.
Colic kills horses even when treated sometimes. I lost one to colic earlier this summer and i had vet involved. He went down fast. Don’t wait to get a vet ,get one now something is really wrong. Telling you,watching and holding a horse you love be PTS. And watching him take his last breaths ISN"T EASY… Then telling them it’s going to be ok your pain will be gone soon. Petting them for the last time knowing it’s the last time, you’ll physically ever touch or feel their mane or the soft hair of their neck.
Please get out a vet call a different one, but please get a vet out.
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The case with these girls is they are not being consistent … When vet checks in … They are nearly back to normal … Relapse but only for a short while. Last several checks alert and hungry. I am new with these horses and this vet … He believes most Colics like this resolves on their own but I am sure he would be over if symptoms were consistent… Or worse or not getting better!/QUOTE]
Left dorsal displacerment colics (for example) CAN present as intermittent colic like gas colic.
It goes like this: Horse is in pain as gas and poop pass through the dispacement area, then horse feels better, symptoms subside, horse wants to eat…until the next round. But a left dorsal displacment is NOT a series of relapses – the displacemet is still there and presents as something less serious because horse appears to ‘get better’.
The only way to know if you are dealing with a displacement or other form of serious colic that mistakenly appears to resolve – is by vet exam.
Perhaps your vet and you are underestimating these colics because of the fact that two horses are involved – too much of a coincidence for two to have ‘vet worthy’ colics at the same time. Ergo – it’s just gas.
@Jjb can I ask you why the Vet has not come out yet?
What is the reason [ yours and Vet’s ] to not have the Vet come and look at them?
Exactly! 99.9% of us on this forum have repeatedly said the critters NEED TO BE SEEN BY THE VET, The fact that they have not been seen does place the blame squarely on the shoulders of the owner.
Yes, exactly! 99.9% of us on this forum have repeatedly said the critters NEED TO BE SEEN BY THE VET, The fact that they have not been seen does place the blame squarely on the shoulders of the owner.
Jjb,original poster, for the love of your horses please TAKE THE EXCELLENT ADVICE YOU HAVE REPEATEDLY RECEIVED AND GET THE VET OUT TO PERSONALLY SEE THESE HORSES NOW!!!
Your slamming me, for giving the advice you came here asking to receive, was uncalled for. 99.9% of us on this forum have repeatedly said the critters NEED TO BE SEEN BY THE VET. If they are still alive, it is by the grace of God, not because of anything you have done, since you’ve not done the single most important thing which is to get a Vet out to see them.
THAT WAS YOUR SIGN TO GET THE VET OUT, STAT!
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The only way to know if you are dealing with a displacement or other form of serious colic that mistakenly appears to resolve – is by vet exam.’
This has been dragging on for FIVE DAYS and Vet has not yet seen the animal(s). That is shocking to many of us.
Beginning to wonder if there are really horses involved here. If there are they needed to have a vet check them over days ago. I sure hope OP you’ve gotten a vet out by now. Nobody on here is being rude or nasty you asked for help and they have responded, by telling you to get a vet out to see those horses. Yeah maybe some harsh post but members on here are very concerned for your horses.
Most definitely something is just not right about the situation. My suspicion is that the OP doesn’t have the money to get the vet out. Or is very young and parents won’t get the vet out. Either way, I’m hopeful the animals will recover without incident.
Yes it’s sad not to have the money to pay for vet call.
OP give your horses banamine orally.
Give your horses one level tablespoon of arm and hammer baking soda daily to try to prevent gas colic.
Give your horses thick stemmy hay, not thin stemmed hay.
Good luck. Horses are expensive. My parents paid my bills and then when I went to work, I was lucky to have vets who have let me pay monthly on bills. I hope your ponies are OK.
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Oh my goodness!
Was trying to avoid this thread for a while but will update since I have gotten PMs and I see many are viewing this thread.
First I do not want to keep arging as it is probably pointless … but will address a few things for the sake of other readers and will also provide info for other readers esp those googling or searching the forum and coming across this thread.
To those making all sorts of accusatory statements. First, seems to be common on this particular forum and I hope COTH can address. So many posters harshly criticizing others for seeking input or help. Once again, many are not here in place of vet help, but more so seeking input on others experiences and so force.
Please please please try to be a little more thoughtful and kinder in your advice. When folks come here in the middle of a stressful issue … making accusatory or blaming statement is very unkind and really not helpful. Not for many anyway and you are just going to drive posters away … or create unnecessary arguments which in the short time I have bee on this forum have seen many. I have been on many forums both for human health support and other animals … I dont think I have seen as much unkindness as I have here.
I think one poster said it is a vet who needs to be helping … I happen to agree with this and what I have been doing all along.