Pony Stallion Suggestions for a Lovely Mare

Not as a hunter pony. But the most proven pony hunter sires have the performance bred into the pedigree.

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No pony stallion will have done the hunters though with a performance career mounted by a kid. So I can see a proven stallion by virtue of his kids , but the stallion himself will not have had a true hunter career would they?[/QUOTE]

Not necessarily. The purebred Welsh stallions have the option of competing in the hunters on the WPCSA Welsh circuit, and that includes juniors riding the stallions as well. (though, there are a few WPCSA shows that chose not to let juniors ride stallions. Most do!)

While a pony stallion definitely can’t compete in the rated pony hunters, I’ve shown our ponies in the Baby Greens up here, Schooling Hunters, Pre-Greens…and in Canada, an adult can show large ponies in the Adult Amateur Hunters. But of course, they better have a good stride and a great jump. :wink:

Ah ok… To me "proven performance " is the actual pony showing rated shows. So it always struck me as funny that stallions were marketed as such with no rated show results. Let’s face it, no pony regardless of how nice he is, is going to win in the AA ring! If anyone knows of any, I’d love to know for curiosity sake :slight_smile:
For the AAs there is a restriction on the height of jumps too, .85 if I recall.

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Ah ok… To me "proven performance " is the actual pony showing rated shows. So it always struck me as funny that stallions were marketed as such with no rated show results. Let’s face it, no pony regardless of how nice he is, is going to win in the AA ring! If anyone knows of any, I’d love to know for curiosity sake :slight_smile:
For the AAs there is a restriction on the height of jumps too, .85 if I recall.[/QUOTE]

I’ve never heard of a restriction on how high a pony can show at a AA show. One could do the Baby Greens, Lows, etc. The Pre-Green Hunters are open to horses only, at least here on the West Coast.

I’ll take a stallion that is a proven producer of offspring that win at the AA shows over a pony that won himself and has not produced any babies with show records.

There is a lovely video of Empire’s Power in the show ring on his website. He has done well himself and sired many performance winners.

I’m in Canada :slight_smile:

But I agree… Babies out doing the job are what I would judge by :slight_smile: Just interesting getting other information about how pony stallions get out and show! Thanks guys :slight_smile:

Empire’s Power?

Is Sir William a medium or a small? All of his babies I’ve met have been cute, I think he really improves the head. Is he still out there?

You can go to the USEF site to see the listing of pony hunter stallions (by year) who have get showing in the show ring. Now keep in mind that list is based on shows entered and results, so as with anything else, take that with a grain of salt.

The way to know performance pedigrees is to learn them. Study them. Know the history. If you are about to breed a mare, it is up to the individual to look past “pretty” and find an appropriate match whose get are successful and sell. Every single time someone comes on here asking for suggestions (re: stallion help) names are brought forward because the stallion is the “flavor of the month”. Just because a stallion is a certain color doesn’t mean it’s a good match. There are many current stallions that are nice but NOT for a hunter pony prospect. The pedigree of the individual and what that pedigree has produced over time will tell you that. Just because a stallion is welsh doesn’t mean it’s a match for a hunter mare.

Would like to suggest my stallion, Hilin Peredur, 14h Black Welsh stallion. Has the movement, conformation and jump that you are looking for. Go to www.foxmorponies.com , stallion page, there are pictures of him and some of his babies.

What about Kevlar from Sportponies Unlimited? Per the website, he’s 15h and out of 3 foals has already produced a successful hunter pony.

[QUOTE=MuskokaLakesConnemaras;7247967]I’m in Canada :slight_smile:

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You need to brush up on your Equine Canada rules then. :wink: Junior “A”'s are allowed to ride pony stallions in jumper classes - no height restrictions, and both juniors and senior riders can show ponies in non-pointed hunter/jumper classes. There are no height restrictions for ponies showing in hunter/jumper divisions. (of course, they are restricted to specific heights if showing in the rated pony hunter and pony jumper divisions, green pony hunters, etc…but not in regular non-pointed hunter/jumper classes and divisions)

Empire’s Power
Crossgate’s Larasan (sire of Midnight Hour, One More Time, HhIlton Honors) I had both Hhilton Honors and One More Time in my barn for a bit and they both had great minds.

Those are some that I can think of that would give you a medium or large and are not grey.

Our GRP pony stallion Popeye has been crossed on Welsh and Welsh crosses, as well as other GRP mares and warmblood mares. He does pass on very good jumping ability. He is homozygous black. He stands for the breeding season at Hilltop Farm in MD.

Eeek! I had forgotten about that recent rule change for stallions in the pony jumpers Daventry!! Thanks :smiley: I do need to brush up :wink: Its been a little while lol!!