Positive COVID cases at Tryon

[StormyDay]

@staceymc

You obviously don’t own my A/O horse that is basically a Chia Pet of an overgrown Thelwell pony. No matter how many times you wet it and comb it over, no matter how many weeks you braid it over and leave it, the second he shakes his head that mane goes EVERYWHERE.

I also have a chia pet! His mane goes three different directions. But no one cares or can tell once you are cantering around

[ohnoO]

Chia Pets need those old fashioned Clairol hot rollers.

[Alterrain]

@MHM

Wow, really? I missed that part. I came up to watch the second half of the class and the jump off. McLain was incredible! :eek:

I was standing between the schooling area and the ring and when the steward approached the first rider after his round I tried to hear, bc the horse had on a LOT of tack (way too much, IMHO) and I assumed it was about that. But then the rider had the groom take out the braids of his next horses, and the same horse that went first had no braids but curly hair in the jump-off.

[punchy]

@StormyDay

I also have a chia pet! His mane goes three different directions. But no one cares or can tell once you are cantering around

Yes! My horses always look like muppets. I don’t care—I consider it an expression of their personality. Life is too short, imo, for sweating about training mane to do something it doesn’t want to do.

There is a band called “Part Wild Horses Mane On Both Sides,” though honestly I love their name more than their music.

[snaffle1987]

why forbid braiding? If someone wants to braid; let them braid. If someone cant find a braider or cant braid; don’t penalize them. The most recent guidelines from the healthcare organizations state that asymptomatic transmission of the disease is rare; as-is survival of the virus on surfaces for prolonged periods of time.

I would not want to be the one to be in charge of enforcing distancing and mask wearing; but for those lucky enough to have shows to go to; why cant people just follow the rules? Its people who cant follow the simplest instruction that are going to have shows shut down across the country. if you cant or don’t want to wear a mask; don’t go to the show. If you cant stand 6 feet away from non family members and carry on a conversation, then don’t go to the show. If you want to see shows continue to be hosted despite the virus you will either follow the rules or you will have no shows. Its pretty simple

[vxf111]

@snaffle1987

The most recent guidelines from the healthcare organizations state that asymptomatic transmission of the disease is rare

This was clarified/walked back within 24 hours but it hasn’t stopped people from repeating this as though only people who actively feel ill can transmit coronavirus.

It is VERY CLEAR that someone can spread the virus before SHE feels ill with symptoms. That’s the worry. That Betty braider will be at the show Saturday interacting with people when she feels fine. She will start coughing and getting sick Monday but it doesn’t matter-- she had and was shedding the virus on Saturday and Sunday even thought felt fine. And she may have infected many other people who go out and do the same thing-- spread it before they have symptoms.

Maybe you understood the distinction but the way you wrote that line above didn’t seem to make that distinction clear.

@snaffle1987

I would not want to be the one to be in charge of enforcing distancing and mask wearing; but for those lucky enough to have shows to go to; why cant people just follow the rules? Its people who cant follow the simplest instruction that are going to have shows shut down across the country. if you cant or don’t want to wear a mask; don’t go to the show. If you cant stand 6 feet away from non family members and carry on a conversation, then don’t go to the show. If you want to see shows continue to be hosted despite the virus you will either follow the rules or you will have no shows. Its pretty simple

As a group horse people, more specifically people who show, and even more specifically hunter/jumper folks (as a group) have always been horrible at following rules. Most horse people think they’re above most rules most of the time. Watch a steward at any horse show even pre covid for an hour and watch how often they have to interrupt people too selfish to care about others who think the rules don’t apply. Why would that suddenly change? The selfish people are going to ruin it for the rest of us AS ALWAYS. Just like everything else we have rules about-- drugging, felony fraud, killing horses for insurance, not sexually assaulting minors, etc. We shouldn’t NEED those rules but we do and people flout them regularly. We are not candidates for self policing, this is nothing new.

[snaffle1987]

@vxf111

This was clarified/walked back within 24 hours but it hasn’t stopped people from repeating this as though only people who actively feel ill can transmit coronavirus.

It is VERY CLEAR that someone can spread the virus before SHE feels ill with symptoms. That’s the worry. That Betty braider will be at the show Saturday interacting with people when she feels fine. She will start coughing and getting sick Monday but it doesn’t matter-- she had and was shedding the virus on Saturday and Sunday even thought felt fine. And she may have infected many other people who go out and do the same thing-- spread it before they have symptoms.

Maybe you understood the distinction but the way you wrote that line above didn’t seem to make that distinction clear.

As a group horse people, more specifically people who show, and even more specifically hunter/jumper folks (as a group) have always been horrible at following rules. Most horse people think they’re above most rules most of the time. Watch a steward at any horse show even pre covid for an hour and watch how often they have to interrupt people too selfish to care about others who think the rules don’t apply. Why would that suddenly change? The selfish people are going to ruin it for the rest of us AS ALWAYS. Just like everything else we have rules about-- drugging, felony fraud, killing horses for insurance, not sexually assaulting minors, etc. We shouldn’t NEED those rules but we do and people flout them regularly. We are not candidates for self policing, this is nothing new.

I am not here to debate the guidelines set forth by the professionals. I’ll leave the conspiracy, the hearsay clarification and the facts distribution up to the guidelines that they have presented to the general public. This is obviously a new virus and so much is constantly being learned about it. Those guidelines are constantly evolving.

If you are concerned about contracting the virus; don’t go to places you may catch it. For the rest of us; the option to go about life should be as we please so long as we follow the rules. But its evident how selfish the showing community is going to be about this and therefore I hate to say it: You deserve what you all have coming.

And if the hunter/jumper crowd can’t follow the rules then be prepared for all shows to be shut down indefinitely. It only takes a photo or talk to get back to an insurance company and its all over. It is a very large liability issues for shows to continue on as they are. Many insurance companies are already dropping shows because they refuse to cover.

[vxf111]

@snaffle1987

I am not here to debate the guidelines set forth by the professionals. I’ll leave the conspiracy, the hearsay clarification and the facts distribution up to the guidelines that they have presented to the general public. This is obviously a new virus and so much is constantly being learned about it. Those guidelines are constantly evolving.

If you are concerned about contracting the virus; don’t go to places you may catch it. For the rest of us; the option to go about life should be as we please so long as we follow the rules. But its evident how selfish the showing community is going to be about this and therefore I hate to say it: You deserve what you all have coming.

And if the hunter/jumper crowd can’t follow the rules then be prepared for all shows to be shut down indefinitely. It only takes a photo or talk to get back to an insurance company and its all over. It is a very large liability issues for shows to continue on as they are. Many insurance companies are already dropping shows because they refuse to cover.

That someone can infect others before she feels symptoms herself is not debated. That is accepted by all reputable scientific organizations and it’s the same for other viruses including other coronaviruses. There is a lot we don’t know but some things we do.

Not everyone gets to choose where they do and don’t go. Some people have to go out for work or to care for others. The more we spread this around acting irresponsibly in non essential ways like not masking up at horse shows, the more prevalent it is in the community and the harder to avoid when doing essential things

[2bayboys]

@snaffle1987

I am not here to debate the guidelines set forth by the professionals. I’ll leave the conspiracy, the hearsay clarification and the facts distribution up to the guidelines that they have presented to the general public. This is obviously a new virus and so much is constantly being learned about it. Those guidelines are constantly evolving.

If you are concerned about contracting the virus; don’t go to places you may catch it. For the rest of us; the option to go about life should be as we please so long as we follow the rules. But its evident how selfish the showing community is going to be about this and therefore I hate to say it: You deserve what you all have coming.

And if the hunter/jumper crowd can’t follow the rules then be prepared for all shows to be shut down indefinitely. It only takes a photo or talk to get back to an insurance company and its all over. It is a very large liability issues for shows to continue on as they are. Many insurance companies are already dropping shows because they refuse to cover.

This. I’m in Virginia and local shows just started back up on June 11. With some notable exceptions, the management and participants at local shows are not following the basic rules for mask-wearing, no spectators, social distancing, etc. Turnout has been huge and people are all over social media posting pictures like nothing at all has changed.

If we want to horse show, we better start following the rules or they will be shut down again for the rest of the year. Liability risk is a huge driving factor for a lot of activities being canceled, but horse people seem to think none of that applies to them.

[vxf111]

Tried to reply but it was “unapproved”

[NaturallyHappy]

@vxf111

That someone can infect others before she feels symptoms herself is not debated. That is accepted by all reputable scientific organizations and it’s the same for other viruses including other coronaviruses. There is a lot we don’t know but some things we do.

Not everyone gets to choose where they do and don’t go. Some people have to go out for work or to care for others. The more we spread this around acting irresponsibly in non essential ways like not masking up at horse shows, the more prevalent it is in the community and the harder to avoid when doing essential things

^^^^ This

[vxf111]

Now my reply showed up? I don’t know what happened there.

[neigh]

Talked to someone who is there now, People are not social distancing. People are either not wearing masks at all or wearing them only covering their mouths.

[AmmyHunter]

@neigh

Talked to someone who is there now, People are not social distancing. People are either not wearing masks at all or wearing them only covering their mouths.

I showed there the last two weeks, and near the rings people were wearing masks and if they weren’t, a Tryon staff member approached them and asked them to put their mask on or to pull it up if they had pulled it down. My experience was that people tried to keep their distance, other than from family members or people already in their barn group who they are exposed to at home anyway. There was definitely a lot less hanging around the rings than you would normally see. Where you did not see masks used all the time was in the barn areas. Tryon did a good job of spreading out the stall assignments so that barn groups were separate from other barns. They also had hand sanitizer everywhere, plexiglass shields up in the office (with almost everything able to be done online so you didn’t have to go to the office for much), and staff constantly going around cleaning the restroom buildings. They had also removed the majority of the seating by the rings to discourage hanging around, and set up a lot of outdoor tables spread out in their plaza area so that people could get takeout and have places to sit and eat while keeping their distance. In the stadiums, most of the seating is closed but the limited sections that are open have seats taped off so that if you sit, you have to be at least 6 feet from someone else in the row, and every other row is closed. So, our group very much felt like Tryon management was doing what they could to try to adhere to the protocols, but it seems like there are always some people who don’t want to comply and try to get around it. Being the mask police would unfortunately be a thankless task, but I did see them trying to enforce it.