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#61

I think his threats and cussing out attacks are what make him different.

I’m the first person I know of who banned him from a facebook group - after he was alarmingly unkind, including the use of profanity, and somewhat threatening toward a poster in my group. He proceeded to try to get other people to leave the group, threatened me personally, and badmouthed the group in other groups until he did enough to get banned from those groups as well. This was before he appeared to be trying to convince people to pay him for clinics, so it wasn’t as public because while he was an a$$hat, he wasn’t trying to make money off everyone while being one. Now that he’s trying to actually get clients with that behavior while just flat out telling lies about everything related to himself, it is more of an issue. I find it laughable he’s now trying to get dressage publications to write articles about him, even.

The reasoning why I would not take a free lesson from him is very similar to yours, except I know I do not trust the judgment of someone with his volatile temper, nor do I want him to know the location of my horses, much less be anywhere near them. Their safety and wellbeing comes first.

#62

Cloudy - if you become a member of his supporters page, you’ll see videos from the clinic. There was just one posted of “schooling piaffe” on the chestnut from the photos. I’ll PM you my info for the $50 :winkgrin:

Gr8ful, I have no idea what I’d say. I’d just say ‘no thank you,’ and move on probably. There’s no point in talking to someone who won’t hear you.

#63

[QUOTE=lizloveshorses;7385398]

Gr8ful, I have no idea what I’d say. I’d just say ‘no thank you,’ and move on probably. There’s no point in talking to someone who won’t hear you.[/QUOTE]

All I’d say is, “No, thank you, I have coaches I’m very happy with.” I don’t think he’d have much luck in this area holding a clinic, even for free. You can barely sneeze around here without finding someone excellent, who actually has the level of experience he wants you do think he does, or more. There are 3-4 (depending on season) currently FEI-level dressage riders who teach where I board, plus another who actually does have experience in haute ecole. Why would I bring someone in?

Those threads are like the Twelve Days of Christmas, though. They just keep giving!

#64

All the poor riding aside, it’s the aggressive attitude and flat-out lies that completely turn me off. Especially when he’s using those lies in an attempt to appear qualified as an instructor/trainer.

#65

I had a really long reply typed out but, truthfully, Gr8ful already said it all.

#66

I feel so privileged to be a member of his “support” group. Fun pics, videos and one sided discussions!

Bleh, this guy makes my blood boil. I work very hard to provide the best training and instruction I can for my students. It’s a lot of work and dedication for me to make a living at it, but apparently I just need to be less honest and get suckers to worship me. I’m just not the type that can be good as a sleazy used car salesman.

#67

Any way someone can post a video here? I’m definitely not joining the FB group of his disciples, but could use some amusement on this drizzly, dreary day!

#68

[QUOTE=netg;7385388]
He proceeded to try to get other people to leave the group, threatened me personally, and badmouthed the group in other groups until he did enough to get banned from those groups as well. [/QUOTE]

I’m so sorry that happened to you. Though much of the saga has been funny, the people with first-hand experience (like you) have also seen a darker side.

Originally Posted by lizloveshorses
Gr8ful, I have no idea what I’d say. I’d just say ‘no thank you,’ and move on probably. There’s no point in talking to someone who won’t hear you.

I hear you. I don’t think I’d talk to him either. It seems like a fool’s errand. I do wish that the probably well-intentioned followers who think we are jealous haters would consider the rational reasons a person would reject his offer.

Originally Posted by Someday I feel so privileged to be a member of his “support” group. Fun pics, videos and one sided discussions!

I wonder how many of the members are real supporters and how many are in it for the entertainment. I’d love to see it be but wouldn’t want to share my information with him. I assume once you join it’s like being a friend and they can see your family pictures and personal info, right?

#69

the “Nick Peronace Dressage Supporters” is a closed group, so you have to be “approved” by the admin, assuming that would be him.

but, IIRC, because it’s a group, when you are added, you’d see what was posted on the page, but not the other way around. I’m assuming tho, that he/they would have access to your page.

#70

[QUOTE=gr8fulrider;7385760]

I wonder how many of the members are real supporters and how many are in it for the entertainment. I’d love to see it be but wouldn’t want to share my information with him. I assume once you join it’s like being a friend and they can see your family pictures and personal info, right?[/QUOTE]

Nope. For the group where I’m an admin, I can see everyone’s posts (including people I had blocked), but can’t see more of your page than any other non-friend. It has made me really hesitate about adding people at times because any group with the word “Adult” in the title gets a lot of spammer requests…

#71

[QUOTE=skydy;7384593]
There once was a dubious “clinician”
who seemed to be lacking “position”
we didn’t learn much
from his humped over clutch
but now know he likes gas station chicken…:winkgrin:[/QUOTE]

Ha! and here is another:

There once was a group on Facebook
Started by a known dressage crook
We all saw the vids
Of him pumping his mids
And were not fooled by this gobbledigook :lol::lol::lol:

#72

[QUOTE=netg;7385843]
Nope. For the group where I’m an admin, I can see everyone’s posts (including people I had blocked), but can’t see more of your page than any other non-friend. It has made me really hesitate about adding people at times because any group with the word “Adult” in the title gets a lot of spammer requests…[/QUOTE]

That’s what I thought. Just to be clear-- I didn’t want to see his personal information or family photos. I didn’t want to provide access to my own.

#73

[QUOTE=skydy;7384593]
There once was a dubious “clinician”
who seemed to be lacking “position”
we didn’t learn much
from his humped over clutch
but now know he likes gas station chicken…:winkgrin:[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=belgianWBLuver;7385895]Ha! and here is another:

There once was a group on Facebook
Started by a known dressage crook
We all saw the vids
Of him pumping his mids
And were not fooled by this gobbledigook :lol::lol::lol:[/QUOTE]

And from the original thread on the dressage forum:

#74

He has a screenshot of the “good” review of his clinic from the thread on the dressage forum…

#75

Lol, whenever I see the Humping to Third piaffe video, I think of this song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y38Ec57yMG8 :lol:

#76

I can’t see/find the Eurodressage page anymore where he talks about all the ‘10’ movers he has up and coming. On that other forum (Yutu??) they posted his ranting reply…he never mentions the horses.
Hmmm???

#77

Wait, I was able to bring it up again (the Eurodressage page) but ALL his stuff is gone! LOL

#78

Purr-fect Crime, do you have a FB page all about your cat dressage exploits? I find your technique interesting if that’s the case.

#79

LOL I got a lot of barn cats…none do dressage. They prefer to weave in between my legs as I try to walk around the barn…guess they could be pole-bending cats?? :lol:
I think I know the dressage cat FB page you speak of. Not me that made it (although I do like it and enjoy the pictures! :smiley: )

#80

It was me that posted his scathing replies to Eurodressage before they were deleted. And I must say, Yuku forums are absolutely horrid to try and do anything on…

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