In your situation I would take home the stable sheet and stable blanket. Your horse will be fine indoors in a turnout sheet/blanket and it will be one less source of confusion for the barn staff. I would also take home either the 200-g liner and or the 250-g turnout sheet so there aren’t two very similar options. (I might even take that home and only bring it out when I know it will be cold enough, so it can’t be overused. But I err on the side of underblanketing because horses’ cold tolerance is so different than ours and I think it’s more uncomfortable for them to be hot.) Then make a simple chart for the stall door with whatever your horse needs for three or four different temp/weather ranges. This may set the barn staff up for success better than having six different options for what sounds like a pretty mild climate.
2 things missing here:
1 - the start and end quotes have to be on separate lines, by themselves
2 - your end quote is missing the /
The easiest thing is to highlight the text you want to quote, then click the 'Quote that pops up and it does it all for you
Trust me, most of these options are still in their bags from the blanket laundry.
At the barn, I only have the stable sheet and blanket. I will take the heavier blanket to have in my locker in case it gets really cold. Trying to keep it simple.
Oh okay, that’s good! I misunderstood that you had all those options hanging on the stall door and wasn’t surprised that barn staff wasn’t always picking the “right” one.
Obviously if a horse is clipped you have a much bigger challenge.
Here in the PNW the challenge is rain. It rains most of the time from November through to April or longer. Rain in the 3 to 10 C degree range, so 30s up to 50F. We get short periods of wet snow and every few years we get an Arctic vortex of cold clear minus 10 C.
If the unclipped horses stay dry they are usually fine at any of our temperatures without a blanket. My mare did one winter in a barn with paddock turnout with no shelter with a rain sheet, and was toasty. Another winter in field board with lighter weight turnouts 24/7. At home she has a stall with runout and appreciates a light weight turnout when the weather gets down to about 3 C and rain /sleet.
The project mare on the other hand will shiver in the rain, but she can keep herself dry in our stall/runout.
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You’re totally right, my bad! I only meant that the consensus of installing a camera in someone else’s barn as a boarder is that it’s a bad idea. I didn’t mean to accuse you of doing that or legitimize the rumor. Like most of that thread I assumed it was either exaggerated, out of context, or just blatantly false.
Installing a camera in a rented apartment makes perfect sense to me and I do the same. I wish I was surprised that that got twisted into something else entirely but I’ve seen enough to know better!
Thanks for that! I have tried highlighting and then pressing the grey “quote,” prompt. For some reason, once I do that, the quoted area unhighlights itself and doesn’t appear in the “reply,” box. I’ll have to try it with your “steps 1 & 2.” Then again, this phone has likely seen better days. Thanks for the info nonetheless, though!
Absolutely no worries!!! I hope I didn’t sound defensive or rude towards you. It’s so hard reading tone in text. I just wanted to provide a person (such as yourself) who has been so fair and genuinely interested the actual facts - rather than rumor mongering, any facts I can w out being scolded by the state or civil attorneys.
Funny story for you: When I and other victims come together and read those threads, we know we can’t always elaborate, but heck if we aren’t clapping & cheering when posts like yours arrive! The other day, a group text resulted in a slew of messages in text basically asserting “OMG! If Equkelly asks one more smart, logically sound question - we won’t even need a trial! She will solve the whole case!!” And…… largely bc of you and a handful of others, another victim did compromise her identity and courageously “went public,” (so to speak) on the forums- about her experience! Anyone who contributed to that result, gets to ask whatever they want- will be provided with the most information we can disclose & will always be well regarded by me- and by those who are reading but aren’t quite ready to be attacked on a forum.
Your posts are read- and at least 4-6 people IRL (including me) have yelled out loud “TOUCHDOWN by Equkelly AGAIN!” You’re an awesome person and we all appreciate that beyond description! <3
I have the same problem on my phone now. It used to work but hasn’t for a while so I quote the entire post then delete whatever I don’t want to quote. To quote the whole post, start your reply then click on the little talk bubble in the top left above the text box.
Agree with those who say temperature is only one metric to consider in blanketing decisions. (Also – not directed atthe op – why worry about a thermometer at the barn? I have 3 weather aps I consult on my phone, much better than a thermometer).
I board retirees on my farm. One thing I screen prospective boarders for is whether we are on the same page wrt horse care. Really, the boarders need to do that too. If you aren’t on the same page as the BO you both will be unhappy.
I know this will bring the wrath of COTH down on my head, but I’ve only had a couple of boarders who are as knowledgeable (or more) than me. It makes sense for most, right? I’ve cared for multiple horses over many years, I should know more! I always want an owner to tell me a new horse’s quirks, like, they run cold, but I need to be able to use my good judgement too. If you find a good barn you are paying for that BO’s knowledge and judgement. And if you think either are lacking then why the heck are you boarding there?
In my area we have big temperature swings and the barn workers generally clock off at 4pm each day. That means that very often horses get a 200g blanket put on at 4, because while it’s 70 degrees now it’ll be 30 degrees at 2am and the workers won’t be back until 8am.
(Why we can’t have some workers do a say 10-6 shift in winter I have no idea… but anyway. It’s annoying. )
My point is, barns often blanket for the coldest temp in the next 16 hours, not the temp right now, because it’s a staffing cost issue that boarders won’t pay enough to fix, not ignorance. And if every one of the 60 horses at my barn had blanketing done exactly per owner wish at varying 20 degree temp changes they’d have to hire a full time 24/7 blanketer to make everyone happy by running around swapping blankets.
The thing to do is ask the BM what it would cost to have it done as you wish. She can decline or give a number that makes it worth her while. 🤷
Did we work at the same barn?
Thankfully I think most barns have put an end to this insanity… or maybe it’s just because I’m not working and riding in those types of barns these days.
Thanks for that!! You just took away a mild panic which I have every time I see the above icons, but have no idea what they do or mean when applied to a reply. Bubble cloud thing- safe! Quotes whole post! Thank you so much!
Slightly OT but our rough board barn let us all do this - buy a camera and put in our own stall or individual turnout. Barn owner has cameras on public, shared spaces…
Speaking as a boarder- you’re darn right, on both counts. I figure that my interview with a prospective new boarding barn goes both ways and that I need to make sure our philosophies align so that we don’t end up posting about each other on the internet because we have different ways of achieving good care. And anyone who’s spent their last however many years taking care of 40 horses probably knows a lot about how to take care of 40 horses, so they can probably take care of my one snowflake. I have been in situations where I knew more about an aspect of horse care than my farm’s management because I had dealt with that particular injury or medical condition whereas the farm had not, but I figure that in a full-care boarding facility those should be exceptions, not the rule.
Anyway, to keep this on topic, today in the valley at our farm the most reliable weather app said the real feel was 40 degrees and I can tell you, because I was there standing out under the clouds in the driving wind, it bloody well was not. And I’m about over these days where it’s a 40 degree difference between turnout time and bring in time. You cannot rug appropriately for that without changing blankets in the field at least twice. Thus, whatever you rug for is wrong. Accepting that does not make it easier to sort out the clothing.
I can’t say I feel any particular “wrath” towards this sentiment, but I do think it kind of misses the point.
While it may well be completely true that you, or any other BO, “knows more,” on some abstract level, than the average boarder, it’s also true that the average boarder really doesn’t care if you do. What they want is control over their animal’s care, regardless of whether it’s “correct” on some ultimate level.
Just think of all those people who choose bedazzled purple spandex in spite of the fact that, yes, they’d very probably look “better” in whatever’s recommended on What Not to Wear!
The question, really, is what you’re actually selling at any given barn: are you selling willing hands that carry out the owner’s wishes without question, or are you selling expertise that the client accepts with more or less gratitude? Either arrangement is legit, and most boarding situations are a combination of both, but, in any event, all parties have to be on the same page for the whole thing to work.
IME, this is what boarders usually think they get when paying for full care board.
And this is what they actually get.
. . . minus the gratitude.
I’ve noticed, too, that perfectly ordinary, non-famous, non-specialist people who happen to own boarding facilities sometimes think that ownership alone automatically puts them into the same illustrious category as BNTs running ultra-fancy training barns, or credentialed nutritionists, or even vets. They expect the same kind of unquestioning respect, and get very huffy when boarders fail to agree with all their pronouncements.
I do respect the knowledge that good BOs and BMs have, but that kind of respect has to be earned. When I see the feeding programs and management schemes that some of these “experts” are selling, I really have to wonder why any boarder in her right mind would accept them without protest.
I think the “average boarder who posts on COTH” may not be the average boarder across everyone who boards horses. I’ve had a higher degree of involvement in my horse’s care than my fellow boarders at almost all the farms where my horse has lived. Not a good thing or a bad thing, just a thing. And a thing I need to be sure is compliant with the barn’s program and the way the management wants to run their business, so we don’t end up complaining about each other on the internet.