Again, a stunning lack of knowledge of history and culture. What do you think the parents of hippies in the 1960s said about their children? Millenials are not unique in having the previous generation say that they are lazy and entitled.
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Socrates was complaining about this in Ancient Greece. It’s nothing new…
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I didn’t say they’re the only ones to hear it, I just said claiming to be the only generation that cares is a normal reaction to hearing it. (And I understand quite a lot of hippies said basically the same thing, which again just shows it’s the normal reaction…) So… could ALL the generations stop complaining that the other generations are the only generation to be anything? We’re all special and unique snowflakes, just like every other snowflake.
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I do think life is too short to spend your days doing something you hate. I worked in a barn full-time for years and loved it. I only left when I got a full-time job that I also really enjoy.
However, most barn work, even at the best places, is exploitative to employees. Unpaid overtime, very long days, no vacation or holiday pay, generally less than minimum wage, and if you get hurt you’re screwed. Most millennials, frankly, don’t want to work that way, which is why so many barns struggle to find staff. (And more power to them, they’re smarter than I). I don’t regret doing it, but I’m glad I have a job where I don’t have to chase the owner for pay and am not one surprise bill away from financial ruin.
There must be another job you can find that you can get some satisfaction from, even if you don’t love every moment. Would part-time work be possible? (with perhaps a weekend barn job too?)
Is it possible that your fantasy of running away and working in a barn is a sign that you’re just burned out?
For me, I know I’m due for a vacation when I get fantasies about moving to a lighthouse by the ocean (with no cell phone)! :lol:
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I never said everyone is mean and money hungry…I’m sure there are non-profits out there that are less money-focused and I would personally prefer to work for them.
My comment that it’s about time millennials stood up for the environment was a backhand comment to @TheJenners for stereotyping millennials as all wanting to make a difference. It was not meant to offend anyone. Yes, there are some environmental/ethical issues that are getting a lot of attention from millennials recently but that does not mean we are all the same. I know many millennials who don’t give a shit about the environment and I’m sure previous generations have done their part in developing environmental law and regulations. So, how about we all stick to good forum etiquette and stop generalizing and sterotyping each other.
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I 100% agree with this statement. It’s a little discouraging though that you don’t always know who you’ll be working with until you land a job and start working with everyone on your team. This makes me wonder if one could go through their entire life in search of good people to work for but never quite find the right people.
Yep, I did the traditional method so I’d say I’m feeling a bit burnt out. thank you for the info…the program at BCIT seems interesting…I’ll def have to research it more.
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You do sound burnt out. There are some really exciting ideas here.
I live in the GTA and had a boring desk job (semi retired/self employed now). Every year about this time, when it started getting warm out I longed to quit my job and work at a barn. :winkgrin:
Good luck in your search for a more fulfilling job. I’m sure you will find something really great!
Are you to blame for the 407???
I understand how you feel but keep your boring engineering job and buy yourself a nice horse. If you want, you can board it at a DIY barn, which will give you plenty of barn work to do, especially if it is a co-op. Just don’t board it at a barn that won’t let you in 24/7 to spend time working with your horse.
Because if you leave your field (no pun intended) and later regret doing so and want to come back, you will be competing against lots of other applicants as well as interviewers who ask you why you left – for jobs that may be back at entry-level salary!
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Plus, a lot of us kids of the Sixties had parents who had lived through the Depression raised on the philosophy that you are darn lucky if you have a job, so keep it until you retire. (Only then came the downsizings and takeovers that hit some of those parents just as they neared retirement age … ).
Yes, I’m sorry…I was/am part of the bridge design team. I thought I was doing good until I drove to site one day and saw all the “save our farmland, stop 407” signs.
I did not know such a thing even existed. This might be the answer for me 
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Let’s not try to rewrite history, see below. You didn’t like my post when I said “no offense but you sound like a millennial,” so you snapped back, which of course gives you my undivided attention in regards to this particular thread, especially since you keep quoting me and tagging me despite the fact that I stopped talking to you and was talking to other posters. My statement that you quoted (again) summarized exactly what you wrote earlier in the thread, to a T.
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OTOH none of the bridges have fallen down so good job! And the 407 is the only reason I can still scribe at Palgrave after I moved to Hamilton. Shortens the trip to Bahr’s too.
How special to work on something you can see and touch. Years from now you can show your children and grandchildren what you helped create. Making transportation safer and faster is doing good.
If you want a taste of farmwork,lots of stables need weekend staff. You could try it out before you give up your better paying job.
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If you want to “talk” to other posters, message them or start your own thread. Hijacking someone else’s post and starting tangent off topic conversations belittling people isn’t appreciated here. I hope this will be the end of this nonsense.
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no, that’s not how coth or bbs work. If your want to dictate the terms of conversation, you take to your fb wall.
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I guess you haven’t noticed, but that’s pretty much the way discussions work around here and, as ladyj79 noted, on pretty much all internet forums. On public forums like this, you don’t get to control the discussion or where it goes. Once you make a post or start a topic, where things go is pretty much up to the other users.
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I went to college in the 1980s, and a substantial number of my friends went into the nonprofit sector and did very well, both in terms of career trajectory/income and in achieving social and political goals. Many of those organizations were started by the 1960s crowd, 15 or 20 years older than us, so I think every generation feels it needs to do something meaningful.
When I look at the folks (late career now!) that did well in nonprofits, I see that they had or developed work skills that would be an asset in any field. They are all positive thinkers, good people skills, good organizers, able to envision a project, keep faith in it, fundraise, and see it through to completion.
Similar to what gets called “entrepreneurial skills” these days but not directed to a personal project but rather a team effort.
People didn’t do that well in that environment, despite their beliefs, if they were at all passive, diffident, morose, or lacked the ability to commit to a team effort and got discouraged or distracted.
Even in the most exciting development agency or environmental activist group or with the most exciting political candidate if the century, you need to be able to concentrate on a narrow and maybe rather dull section of the project or issue and see it through.
You are also expected to be fully committed to the work and that might involve a lot of effort at key points.
Obviously all these folks find the work incredibly rewarding ( though the burnout factor is a risk) but it’s not a sector for people who are overall disaffected, if that makes sense.
Lots of us are physically slowing down these days, but one of the founders of Greenpeace (don’t know him personally) just got arrested about a mile from my hoyse last week in a demonstration against the Kinder Morgan bitumen pipeline. I believe he climbed some trees and refused to come down.
He is 72.
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Goodness… I guess I can’t talk to you all :lol:
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There’s always someone who just can’t stop digging themselves a hole. The beauty is you can always get a new screenname and start over :lol::lol:
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