*RESOLVED* "stolen filly.....i need help!"

[QUOTE=Kairi;6329292]
Is there anyway to report this sale ad? The other one at BigEd got removed. So we need to get this one removed as well.

http://www.warmbloods-for-sale.com/HorseDetail.asp?HorseID=30545&UserID=1793

http://www.equinenow.com/horse-ad-517723[/QUOTE]

WOW - now the sire is “ROTSPON” ??? in that warmbloods for sale ad???

[QUOTE=3Dogs;6329300]
WOW - now the sire is “ROTSPON” ??? in that warmbloods for sale ad???[/QUOTE]

It would seem so.

http://www.warmbloods-for-sale.com/Bloodline1.asp?Sire=rotspon

Raven Ridge’s ad is the third one down.

[QUOTE=Kairi;6329292]
Is there anyway to report this sale ad? The other one at BigEd got removed. So we need to get this one removed as well.

http://www.warmbloods-for-sale.com/HorseDetail.asp?HorseID=30545&UserID=1793

http://www.equinenow.com/horse-ad-517723[/QUOTE]

Noticed you can leave Facebook comments on the equinenow.com add. Maybe someone needs to point out that she is STOLEN.

[QUOTE=RoyParker;6326470]
Gelding all the stallions, stripping GFF off all their horses simply is not going to happen. Telling people to not have any dealings with them then faulting them for not being able to pay their bills is sort of absurd.[/QUOTE]

First, no one said anything about gelding stallions (on this thread). Maybe “Roy” is getting confused as to which thread “he” is posting on?

Second, “Roy’s” concept of paying bills is the only absurd part of this statement. It is absurd to:

  • Buy broodmares from person A and hire trainer A to show horses.
  • Pay the A people until money starts to run low.
  • Stop paying A people
  • Sell some horses, get more money
  • Move on to B people, pay them till money runs low, stop paying
  • Sell more horses, get more money
  • Move on to C people…

It is legally documented (not gossip) that Jill Burnell is not paying her bills with the money that she does have. Rather she is going out and acquiring new bills to pay. Like hiring RockSolid to show her horses, while she is currently legally obligated to pay previously acquired services and horses.

Rapazzini09 I am so sorry you are having to go through this and I wish you the best of luck resolving and getting your filly back.

[QUOTE=Kairi;6329292]
Is there anyway to report this sale ad? The other one at BigEd got removed. So we need to get this one removed as well.

http://www.warmbloods-for-sale.com/HorseDetail.asp?HorseID=30545&UserID=1793

http://www.equinenow.com/horse-ad-517723[/QUOTE]

I`d be using them to find out where the filly is.
Dee

[QUOTE=3Dogs;6329227
Good luck Rocksolid - seems you MIGHT have a stolen filly however - so hard to follow the whole tortured tales of JB![/QUOTE]

Actually Rocksolid is competing the yearling filly Rapture. The filly’s USEF registration has both missing and incorrect information. The fiily is offered for sale by GFF, but buyer beware with the problems on the USEF registration.
Also, Rapture is not the original name given to the filly. She was named Rendition by her actual breeder.

The apparently stolen filly (that prompted this thread) is Raven Ridge.

Both are very attractive young horses and look similar.

Just wondering, what happens if the filly gets sold?

Well, I am no attorney, but I know it is a criminal offense to sell stolen property. AND I believe if the stolen property crosses state lines, it becomes a federal offense. This raises the stakes on the whole deal.

I think even if she sells the filly ( and ends up in the pokey) you still have valid claim on the filly as the buyer bought stolen property. If the original owner can prove ownership, the buyer looses their $$.

Now, I do not know that the filly would qualify as “stolen property” under the laws of (whatever state the contract has teeth).

Are there any attorneys here reading this???

ETA, the dollar threshhold for grand theft in CA is property with a value of over $950.

[QUOTE=Mardi;6329351]
Actually Rocksolid is competing the yearling filly Rapture. The filly’s USEF registration has both missing and incorrect information. The fiily is offered for sale by GFF, but buyer beware with the problems on the USEF registration.
Also, Rapture is not the original name given to the filly. She was named Rendition by her actual breeder.

The apparently stolen filly (that prompted this thread) is Raven Ridge.

Both are very attractive young horses and look similar.[/QUOTE]

thanks - so many “R” names -

[QUOTE=hackinaround;6329316]
Noticed you can leave Facebook comments on the equinenow.com add. Maybe someone needs to point out that she is STOLEN.[/QUOTE]

Done.

So this is how it goes, and this is why I and many sane people won’t believe a word they read on a blog. You nailed it, I am an animal abuser of abhorrent proportions. I moved from TX? to escape an angry mob of women such as yourselves.

I am sorry I don’t have time to google each of your names. Just making sure to take down farm names that I will be using on MY blog :slight_smile:

and yes someone was observant that I did post on a previous thread when someone suggested gelding stallions,you all must not have much to do it seems.

So keep googling and see if you can find the word idiot and pay careful attention to the definition.

[QUOTE=RoyParker;6329412]
So this is how it goes, and this is why I and many sane people won’t believe a word they read on a blog. You nailed it, I am an animal abuser of abhorrent proportions. I moved from TX? to escape an angry mob of women such as yourselves.

I am sorry I don’t have time to google each of your names. Just making sure to take down farm names that I will be using on MY blog :slight_smile:

and yes someone was observant that I did post on a previous thread when someone suggested gelding stallions,you all must not have much to do it seems.

So keep googling and see if you can find the word idiot and pay careful attention to the definition.[/QUOTE]

I could say the same to you. You keep coming back to this thread.

[QUOTE=back in the saddle;6329029]
Just go to those pictures and right click and save picture as. They’ll save to your computer.[/QUOTE]

I did, but the whole copyright thing. I didn’t want to be posting someone elses picture on my FB if her ads decide to disappear.

[QUOTE=Derby Lyn Farms;6329429]
I did, but the whole copyright thing. I didn’t want to be posting someone elses picture on my FB if her ads decide to disappear.[/QUOTE]

what copyright?

[QUOTE=Kairi;6329425]
I could say the same to you. You keep coming back to this thread.[/QUOTE]

Roy Parker who has only posted on THIS thread - very interesting - and the few OTHER threads about Jill Burnell - 31posts total

Roy - are you another ALTER of the JB fan club or JB herself ?

I would rather not google - I just have to look at COTH threads

From 2011:

[I][I]Well I have to say this is my first post after being a lurker because I feel very strongly as a lot of you do regarding things being said, and truly do feel like this is a lynching and that there are people out there with a different agenda then the one that was originally posted.

I have bought and bred from GFF with no problems.

I think the people who trash and then claim not to trash, or claim it’s their RIGHT to trash the stallions at GFF are probably other stallion owners. Quite honestly I have seen some real pieces of crap out there, some of which are supposedly marvelous yet their videos suck. No I won’t name names.

Redwine has a VERY lovely way of going for a hunter and I would breed to him in a heartbeat. That said I love Apiro too, and Chaleon and a bunch of other stallions. I pick based on my mare, what I see in video and offspring, show results or sometimes just a hunch that I think a stallion has talent like Aloha.

As for the whole horses need 15 gazillion acres to be considered well taken care of. I have lived in CA my whole life and had horses that long. I personally think they have had led
really nice lives. I know I’ve heard of horses going out and sustaining life or career ending injuries in large pastures.

Sure I’d love those picturesque green pastures with white fences but in reality it’s not going to happen. Does that mean I can’t breed in CA because it’s not up to the standards of people who happen to have more acreage?

I came to this board originally to see if I was missing something when picking out a stallion, but what I see is NOT what I’m missing but how rotten some people can be, Bent Hickory and Tamara come to mind.

if there is a board manager yes please kill this thread and hopefully someone will start a new one more along the lines of what I think this forum is supposed to be used for.

and I hope GFF stallions go on great success as well as the other talented stallions out there because there are plenty!!!

peace out[/I]

[/I]From my viewing of Redwine at Thermal, he NEVER had a lovely way of going as a hunter - dressage bred, dressage horse.

[QUOTE=RoyParker;6329412]
and yes someone was observant that I did post on a previous thread when someone suggested gelding stallions,you all must not have much to do it seems.[/QUOTE] Actually Roy, I was just assuming that you are getting confused. I’m happy to see I was right :slight_smile:

Figured I’d save all the other “Idiots” the trouble: (via Google)
id·i·ot/ˈidēət/
Noun:
A stupid person.
A mentally handicapped person.
Synonyms:
fool - imbecile - blockhead - dunce - nitwit - dolt
:wink:

[QUOTE=3Dogs;6329467]
Roy - are you another ALTER of the JB fan club or JB herself ?[/QUOTE]

There’s a fan club? I wonder who’s the president? :lol:

[QUOTE=RoyParker;6329412]
So this is how it goes, and this is why I and many sane people won’t believe a word they read on a blog. [/QUOTE]

Bulletin Board. This is a bulletin board or discussion forum. It’s not a blog.

Carry on.

Posted in 2011 by Roy Parker

I have lived in CA my whole life and had horses that long.

Posted in 2012 by Roy Parker

You nailed it, I am an animal abuser of abhorrent proportions. I moved from TX? to escape an angry mob of women such as yourselves.

See you only need long term memory when you lie.

:lol:

[QUOTE=RoyParker;6329412]

I am sorry I don’t have time to google each of your names. Just making sure to take down farm names that I will be using on MY blog :slight_smile:

.[/QUOTE]

Does this blog include Topics like “How to be lecherous in business”, or "Its not malnutrition …its thriftiness " or “Ride it like you stole it”?