Dear posters! I AM ASKING ABOUT HELMET BRAND SAFETY, NOTHING ABOUT THE RIDERS TRAINER, OR ABILITY PREP OR BARN.
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Well to answer your question in the tone you’re now posting
ITS CERTIFIED THE SAME AS EVERY OTHER HELMET BRAND THAT’S ACCEPTED AT SHOWS.
Why does it matter which one she was wearing? What impact does that have on your shopping?
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Not to mention as was said in the first couple responses, no helmet is going to protect against this type of trauma.
@LBakerRides, please go over to the eventing forum and look through the helmet testing discussions there. There are links to studies of various helmet brands. That is a more appropriate place to ask you questions, not creating a new thread so near the wake of a tragedy like this.
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Do you know this for a fact?
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It actually isn’t and that’s why I am asking
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Boy, you really don’t know when to put the shovel down.
What exactly is it that you’re implying here??
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Nothing is being implied. There was a direct question posted about a helmet I’m considering purchasing, if you need help viewing it scroll to the top.
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But some are much much better at it. Check out the Champion helmet series podcast I mentioned. They discuss this type of fall and the helmets actions at length. Not all helmets are created equal.
Not sure why a poster is being attacked for wanting to be safe.
One of the first questions we ask in Eventing falls is “what kind of vest did they wear”.
It’s a discussion forum, stop trying to control what others talk about.
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Helmet brands are not all the same and they are not rated or certified the same as “EVERY OTHER HELMET BRAND ACCEPTED AT SHOWS” either.
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Thank you! The assumptions that I’m implying anything are just ridiculous. I came here asking about a helmet and wanting to do research behind it before I purchase it. I understand people may feel it’s “too soon” but then find your way out of this post if you feel that way. this post wasn’t created to discuss the riders ability, her barn, her program, prep, horse, anything mentioned after my original question but the specific helmet that she was wearing during the accident. there is nothing too soon about that.
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I second the recommendation above for you to head over to the eventing forum and search for helmet threads there. Tons of good information.
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Thank you! Heading over.
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In the US, yes, they are. There was a specific individual study from Virginia Tech that looked into individual helmets if you want to look into that but there were some pros and cons in that study addressed by people already and they do not cover every helmet.
However, the official US ratings are only pass or fail. Period.
Regarding if a different helmet would have helped, we have no information regarding what happened so we can’t answer that.
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The helmet can squish your head out with a chin strap on? I’m trying to envision this.
One problem is that, while some helmets may be better at some kinds of falls, and others with others, it’s impossible to know in advance whether we’re going to be crushed or whack our head on a standard.
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I noticed in the VT study that some of the wide brim models did not perform as well in their test compared to the same helmet base model with smaller brim. But there were some questions about the limitations of that study in the forces it focused on. I also wondered what the odds were of me having the wrong kind of impact in one of those (which is the type of helmet I usually wear) versus odds of skin cancer or eye problems since I live at altitude and also hate wearing glasses when I ride (but do wear contacts with UV protection).
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I mean, without any scientific basis for it, it seems like it makes more sense to protect yourself from something that definitely happens every single day (sun exposure) compared to something that might never happen (a serious fall on your head).
Obviously not to the point of wearing a straw hat instead of a helmet, but you know what I mean.
Plus I think they still make the big visors that you can attach to any helmet if you prefer a helmet that doesn’t have the big brim.
Bingo!
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My understanding (and go read the specific threads and announcements) is that the Virginia Tech study specifically looked at how well the helmets protect in MILDER impacts (than the ASTM/SEI tests), which happen more often. Not so much on catastrophic impacts.
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Most people don’t have their helmet strap super tight so yes it can move some especially once damaged.
The actual podcast is very in depth though. They get damaged helmets from riders who are in serious or fatal falls and study them.
