Ruffian movie on tonite (Sat. 6/9)

[Kenike]

@Mini_Whinny;2490958

There was a warning at the very beginning of the movie

Yes, but “contains intense racing scenes” does not equal “contains graphic material that my not be suitable for children. Viewer disgression advised.”

I’m not talking about for those of us who know the story, knew what was coming and when, I’m talking about for those who had no clue and thought this was going to be a Seabiscuit’y warm and fuzzy feel-good movie with a happy ending.

But I’m still glad I watched it. Hubby said I can’t buy the movie, but he didn’t say I couldn’t ask parents for it :winkgrin:

[J_Turner]

[QUOTE=Freebird!;2490395]
I just posted on the other thread, but wanted to here, as well. - Geez, that was just horrid. Nothing like watching a reenactment of a horse running around on a grissily stump to end your day with. And would someone please telly Hollywood that horses do not just close their eyes when they get The Big Shot??

Honestly that was just appalling.[/QUOTE]

I did enjoy the movie. I thought the jockey and Sam Shepard and his groom were the best part of it. SS was most excellent. I cried profusely at the end.

I loved the footage at the end of the real Ruffian. She was amazing looking - just gorgeous. And her running was like a freak of nature.

The one problem I have with EVERY movie with a horse in it … is the overdub of horse whinnies and nickers at every opportunity. Nigel doesn’t nicker when I get on him or whinny when I pull up. I think horses have enough presence without it and real surrounding noises would be better.

[asb_own_me]

Too much…

Oh god…nothing anyone posted here could have prepared me for the scene where they show her leg snap. I’ve seen the original match race footage, yes we all know what was going to happen…IMO unnecessarily graphic, gory and violent. I know her injury was all of those three things. But it didn’t need re-created like that.

On a lighter topic, back to Hollywood and horses. Does the layman really think all horses look alike? Geez! I can’t watch horse movies for being annoyed with the (what seems like) 1,576 different horses they have play each horse! And the gelding/mare thing…and then there is the scene near the beginning talking about how gorgeous and refined she is, and they show a coarse-headed horse standing in the stall with Mr. Whitely. Not to mention whinnying…do most people think horses whinny non-stop? :rolleyes:

I did love the scene where Mr. Whitely is hosing her legs out in the paddock, and turns and sprays the bystanders to get them to back off :lol::lol::lol: I wouldn’t be surprised if that was something that he really did!

Movie is still playing (watching it over lunch)…it’s so sad how they are all waiting while she was in surgery and second-guessing what went wrong. Was it the pigeons…something at the starting gate…how heartbreaking. I remember being so touched by her groom, Dan, in the book (Burning From The Start) and I have enjoyed his portrayal in the movie as well. He seemed to love that filly more than anything.

More than anything…the worst part about the movie for me was seeing their re-creation of when she woke up from anaesthesia (sp?) and she was still trying to run. My heart broke all over again. I couldn’t take it in the book, either…

[asb_own_me]

[QUOTE=J. Turner;2493381]
The one problem I have with EVERY movie with a horse in it … is the overdub of horse whinnies and nickers at every opportunity. [/QUOTE]

LOL - we were posting at the same time. All the whinnying is incredibly distracting!

[Rebe]

@Kenike;2493140

Yes, but “contains intense racing scenes” does not equal “contains graphic material that my not be suitable for children. Viewer disgression advised.”

Umm, I think you mean “viewer discretion” - a disgression might be a combination of digression (getting off-track) and aggression (being mad about it?). I could use that combo at work when meetings are spinning out of control… :lol:

But really, folks. The movie is rated PG-13, not G. So it’s suitable for kids age 13 and up, not 10-year-olds. The breakdown scene was after 10:30 at night. Younger kids are not supposed to be up that late watching movies - that’s part of why they run them at that hour.

Parents need to think clearly about this, not just allow their kids to stay up and watch whatever is on. Or tape the show, let the parent view it and decide if the kids should watch it.

OK, sorry about the disgression…

[Sannois]

Exactly

[QUOTE=miss_critic;2491507]
I’m with you.

And as sickening as it was to see the break down on the show, that’s what happened. It’s like showing a WWII movie and keeping it clean. What do you learn? I think they actually kept a lot out. Read this transcript by Nack and you’ll see what I mean.
http://www.bloodhorse.com/talkinhorses/BN052407.asp

The very very end of the movie (with her real footage) made me tear up the most. What grace.[/QUOTE]
Like the begining of saving Private Ryan. That was about as realistic as you can get. And it can cause one to urp up there dinner. But it really was like that.
:eek:

[larksmom1]

two points about these posts…

When the Lippizans come around and I go to see them with my horsey friends, we spend a good deal of the time commenting on this or that non entity. Does it matter? One thing I did notice in the parts I did watch, it seemed to me, a lot of the shots were head and neck shots, legs detatched from the same head. A lot of shots in a darkened shedrow. I thought that seemed to me that they KNEW we would all be murmuring and tried to minimise such chaff. One of my favorite hose movies of all time is ‘The Man from Snowy River’ and although most of it is perfectly shot, there is a darkend scene where you can clearly see the wranglers. Doesn’t even worry me, it is still a terrific movie.
As far as whinnieing [?] my late great Dr. Pepper was notorius for her ear splitting whinny at a show for sure.
Janis

[OakesBrae]

[I]

The one problem I have with EVERY movie with a horse in it … is the overdub of horse whinnies and nickers at every opportunity.[/I]

What cracks me up about that is when they do it when they portray jumping in a movie. Oh yea, my horse whinnies over every jump. Or nickers.

Uhhhh yup.

I was sorry I missed the movie, it looked good. Footage of accidents like that is horrible, but reality. I, for one, would rather have my children watch that than something faked and completely sensationalized.

But maybe that’s just me.

[Kenike]

@Rebe;2493471

Umm, I think you mean “viewer discretion” -

Uh, yeah, I did. Whoops!! :lol: That’s what I get for talking to hubby, trying to keep 1 yr old out of my lap for a second, and not paying attention!
Boy, I made myself look like a complete idiot with that one! :lol:

I have to agree with the winnies and nickers. It bothered me as a little kid, even. I’ve never understood it…

[J_Turner]

[QUOTE=larksmom@comcast.net;2493849]
One of my favorite hose movies of all time is ‘The Man from Snowy River’ and although most of it is perfectly shot, there is a darkend scene where you can clearly see the wranglers. Doesn’t even worry me, it is still a terrific movie.
Janis[/QUOTE]

Just wondering what scene … I never am good at finding continuity error and such … there is a great website that points them out though …

[larksmom1]

mistake in Man From…

They were going after horses in the dark, Jim’s mare was ‘running with the mob’ and he was chasing them. It is b4 the big chase scene. watch it again. You will see it too.

[dressagetraks]

About the owners, from what I’ve read, Mrs. Janney was not in good health at all. They were both on the backstretch (whole backstretch interval not shown in movie) when Ruffian was first taken back to her stall, and Mrs. Janney was absolutely heartbroken. Several people, including Bill Nack in his recent Blood Horse chat, mentioned her obvious feelings. Not feeling well, she returned to her brother’s nearby estate when Ruffian was taken for the several-hour surgery, but Mr. Janney went with Ruffian to the hospital and was there throughout the surgery. He left the hospital only after she was in recovery, at which point (wee small hours of the morning by now) he went to join his wife, as he was also concerned for her. He thought Ruffian was safe for the moment at that point. So they weren’t absentee, noncaring owners who just went home and to bed instead of even checking on their horse.

I agree, though, from what the movie shows, they don’t seem too in touch that evening. I don’t think that portrayal does justice to the Janneys, from what I’ve read elsewhere.

I also agree that the generic disclaimer at the beginning should have been MUCH more explicit. Wonder how many horse-crazy kids were watching, not expecting that.

[gubbyz]

Anyone know what the shot was that Dr Reed gave to her after she broke down?

[lauriep]

For those interested, I bought the DVD and there are videos of all of her races, and a nice documentary about her (unfortunately with a lot of Bill Nack, but also with Jacinto, Frank, Mike Bell interviews) that make it worth buying.

Did Charlsie Cantie really exercise her? According to the documentary, she did, as did another woman whose name escapes me. They were not mentioned in Jane Schwartze’s book…