Saddle pad rubbing/bunching

Every summer my miss-sensitive gets more sensitive and saddle pads sometimes make rub marks. I’ve googled this, and all the advice is for rubs on the back behind the cantle or on the withers. My mare gets rubs in front, at the bottom edge of the pad, the curved corner in front of the girth.

My saddle doesn’t have wool so I can’t have it adjusted, but it does have a changeable tree.
She has always been in between tree sizes - saddle fitters always measure her as a large MW, but she is VERY angry in a MW. She is happy in a W tree, so that’s what I use, and the saddle pad issue occurs only in the summers. Usually, it’s just the occasional rub, I’d have to make sure to frequently wash the pads and NOT put in dryer so that they become “stiff” again for a few rides. The rubs typically happen when they’re all soft and flimsy. Well, this summer, it has gotten way worse. She’s rubbing like every ride, freshly washed pad or not, and the pad is starting to bunch up under the saddle during lateral work. UGH. I put the MW tree in again, and got angry mare. I tried a super thick half pad with the W tree, angry mare. I put shims in my Thinline half pad, makes no difference (but no angry).

I’m waiting on a new saddle to arrive (it has wool flocking yay); in the meantime I’d like to get a new pad or two at the suggestion of my coach. A “stiff spine” was suggested, it looks like that means either fleece/wool lined or something shimmable. Anyone have a particular preference to one or the other? I already have a shimmable half pad, so not sure if a shimmable square pad is somewhat redundant. Or a double back pad?

Any other suggestions for this particular issue? :sigh:

The LeMieux Sensitive saddle pad may help. My gelding gets a rub in the same spot or at the back of the pad, but only toward the end of winter when his winter coat becomes more dry and brittle. The pad has a fleece type edging that helps for such a problem. Of course a well fitted saddle is necessary, but this pad should help too.

Le Mieux for sure. It sounds like your mare needs a saddle cloth that is a little more ‘structured’ in its fit.

If it is any consolation, my saddle blankets slip back no matter what I do - and yes, saddle fit is checked regularly.

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Le Mieux is very stable, so are Ogilivy.

Thanks all!

Back on Track makes “firm” pads.

I had the bunching issue with my high withered wb/tb. Even as my leg became ever more still, it continued. So I started using only these, and swear by them - their like the le Mieux; the close quilting and cord round edge stops bunching very well. Plus it had D ring velcros to stop any movement at the front. https://www.ashbree.com.au/kieffer-d…iABEgLTRfD_BwE
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Have you tried her in just a half pad? I’v done that before on horses that were too roly-poly and saddle pads migrated. I’ve only ever done it with a wool half pad though. Yours might work with nothing underneath if that decreases the bulk under your saddle?

That’s actually on my list to try next!

Double back pad worked well today! No bunching nor rubbing and a very happy mare. Hopefully it lasts until my new saddle arrives, but if not I have several other things to try. Thanks again all!

I guess I spoke too soon. Seems the double back pad is too thick, it caused a sore spot at the point of the tree on the left side today. Sigh.

If the issue only occurs in the summer I would try a natural sheepskin and see if that’s better - something about sweat and friction of the fabric must be irritating her now, if it doesn’t happen in the winter withthe same pad and saddle, unless perhaps her coat is really thick in the winter? Either way, real sheepskin would be my first choice, followed by something like the LeMieux Sensitive for the rubbing. The bunching tends to be a sign of saddle fit issues but again maybe due to just sweat and friction? Let us know how things go.

Thanks! I’m going to try just a half pad on Friday (she’s off tomorrow), and if that doesn’t go well I’ll buy a couple more pads to try.
Yeah, it’s (so far) only been a problem in the summer. I full clip her in the winter (we’re in Florida), so no coat to help prevent rubbing. I lean towards sweat and friction being the issue since it is in the summer only, and now that I think about it, we actually never had any problems in Ohio, it’s new since we moved to Florida (this is our third summer here).

I too would suggest natural sheepskin against the skin. I live in a tropical climate of australia and my mare gets rubs in the really humid months from anything other than sheepy.

Mattes do a couple of options with sheepskin on the underside depending where your rubs are - sheepskin underneath the seat area, sheepskin under the seat and along the front edge, and fully lined with the entire underneath covered with sheepskin.

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