Lasix has been discussed several times over the 47 pages of this thread. If it’s ~that~ important that you get the answer to your question, go back and read the thread and all the informative articles about Lasix that have been linked.
It wasn’t MY question.
@Sparrowette what was your question about Lasix? There’s been so many side conversations going on it’s hard to keep track. You seem to feel like your question was ignored and I’d like to try to answer it, if I can.
SinMiedo, Since your question is about biochemical processes in living bodies, it’s possible that the vet’s may know if it works the same in horses, and I hope someone, somewhere has done a study. I think it’s also likely, that the people handing out Lasix like candy are perhaps unaware of any possible K depletion issue. If the issue exists, then the Naâº/K⺠pump would certainly have trouble working, so I think your question if valid.
I have a smidgeon of medical in my background, and I have a rough understanding of your question. I’ve never been on the treatment side though, just the office side, and it’s been a long time since then (But I still have my “Slow K” drink coaster from the drug rep!) :lol:.
But, judging from the mostly crickets, etc. I don’t think too many folks here will have a good answer for you.
The Wikipedia page below states that:
“All mammals have four different sodium pump sub-types, or isoforms. Each has unique properties and tissue expression patterns.[SUP][2]” [/SUP]
So I’m guessing that there’s information out there that vets could reference.
I answered it in post #926. Potassium depletion from a single race day dose of Lasix is nominal considering the high potassium intake of herbivores. Sodium depletion is a bigger concern for herbivores, but easily corrected orally.
I started my professional career in veterinary medicine, then later worked in human perfusion science. Learning the hemodynamic differences was quite interesting to me!
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This is correct according to my track vet. Horses recover quickly on their own, and usually do not need any additional supplements, medication, etc to bounce back to normal.
This statement shows how totally uniformed you are regarding Lasix and the administration of Lasix, and jumping into a thread 47 pages in without bothering to read the beginning pages and demanding your question be answered, when it’s a ridiculous question anyway.
You’ve never worked on the racetrack or ever held any license. So how do you validate your statement “the people handing out Lasix like candy are perhaps unaware of any possible K depletion issue.?” These “people” are board certified veterinarians, some of who are in private practice and some of whom work for the state racing commission. They are highly specialized, focusing on racetrack veterinarian medicine only, and work 12-14 hours a day, 5-6 days a week in this field. Bunch of idiots, huh? Do you know when and why Lasix is prescribed? On race day, it’s usually administered by the state vet, who doesn’t hand it out like candy. There is a documented procedure to get race day Lasix. Lasix is sometimes prescribed for a work, but usually only a horse with known bleeding issues will get it. Again, not handed out like candy.
You are very poorly qualified to make any statements on Lasix, and it’s people like you who make ignorant statements regarding issues they can’t be bothered to research who are doing the most image damage to the racing industry. If you want to join in the conversation, fine, but do not make critical statements about an issue unless you’ve done your homework.
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The crickets have more to do with the fact that the question has already been answered in detail on a previous page than that people who have racehorses are all idiots.
The racetrack vets I know are serious, well-educated professionals. They’re not looking for medical answers on Wikipedia.
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PB, If you had said that to SinMiedo, this pile on would never have happened.
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I am under no obligation to say anything specific to anyone.
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Uh… I directly answered her question immediately.
But apparently my scientific answer based on first-hand medical (human and vet) and racetrack experience is equivalent to crickets in your mind.
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Texarkana, I’m thinking more that answers that someone doesn’t want to hear is tantamount to crickets :lol:
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I think both these alternatives are true… :sigh:
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So the Southern California racing roadshow has made its way down to Del Mar and PETA is lying in wait for the first breakdown. So far they have been thwarted (which won’t stay true forever unfortunately) but in the meantime they are all over that accident the other morning.
I know there is no way to do this and local news tends to be on the lowest common denominator stupid side, but if someone gave me a magic wand, I’d enact a rule that you must understand something before you protest it. No, the fact that a horse spooked doesn’t mean it was abused; no, the horses that died did not sustain racing injuries; no, this is not “another black eye for horse racing” and the award for the stupidest thing I heard about it in an interview on San Diego local news “Of course there will be orthopedic injuries. These horses weigh 2000 pounds and run on skinny legs.”
What, are we racing Shires now?
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@Pronzini… makes my head hurt to read what you said about what the local media “reported”
I pretty much have no respect for media as they are terrible in their reporting of “news” (for me, that’s just about any media outlet).
Yes, the death of 2 horses was tragic but sure as heck nothing could be done with a riderless horse short or, and I’m sure Del Mar tried, to both catch the loose horse and sound the horn as a warning to all riders on the track.
These horses weren’t at racing speed but they weren’t loping along either… (either the 3 horses working in company or the loose horse)… When 1000 lbs each (2000 lbs… yeah, we must be racing drafts now) collide head on, there will be damage.
So happy to hear no jocks where injured and sad that 2 horses were lost (but could have been 3 or 4 horses dead and not just 2).
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I don’t take much stock in random media polls, but I find the current results of this San Diego Union-Tribune poll concerning:
As of last look, 36,000+ votes and 80% in favor of California beginning a process to end horse racing. :no:
I agree that it is concerning but given that you can refresh the page and vote again to infinity makes me believe the AR people gave their fingers a workout.
Yeah, but people can turn into sheeple rather quickly with matters they do not fully understand… :concern:
A few years ago when I was visiting family in NYC while the whole proposed carriage horse ban was going down. I asked everyone I could their opinion on the matter. Most had no clue what I was talking about, but even so, almost everyone believed the horses would be happier “doing something else” and thought the ban was a good idea. Just like I’m sure most uninformed voters in California would agree the racehorses would be happier “doing something else.” Like living out their lives on that majikal farm in the country where their parents sent their childhood dog. 
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