@eightpondfarm - you might look into the Stubben D Genesis Special. It’s what Catherine Haddad rides in and I think was designed for her, which is why it doesn’t have a knee block AT ALL. I didn’t like that about it, but it might just be the ticket for you. I do ride in a Stubben Euphoria, which I love and am a big fan of their spring trees.
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Thanks! i will look into Stubben D Genesis Special. And will google: Catherine Haddad 
Catherine Haddad likes saddles with no knee pads or much padding anywhere. She put an old Stubben on my horse when she rode her in a clinic. Luckily it fit my horse and I could ride in it. But few of us have the seat she has and can ride in the “postage stamp” types of saddles on big movers.
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Really? Who knew?!
You might find that some Lipizzaners and WBs have similar backs. WB is such a broad term and they come in many shapes and sizes.
Also, if a saddle maker supplies saddles to a stable that has a certain breed of horses, that doesn’t mean that those horses don’t vary in shape themselves and that the saddle maker only makes saddles for a specific shape and/or breed.
I believe that the SRS uses or used Albion as well.
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As of three years ago (when I was there) yes. Their every day saddles are Neidersuisses.
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I’m going to try a Niedersuss. Found a used one that just might fit the bill for me…
Heck I have one sitting around in size tiny (16 3/4) should you not have luck with that one.
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is it wide? my mare has broad shoulders and loin…
PM me please
Unless you are super skinny and small, I can’t see how this saddle will fit you.
At, at the time, 5’6" and 130lbs, The 17" Neidersuss mostly make me orgasm in the saddle (true story). I “needed a 17.5”. 16 3/4 is a kid’s saddle.
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I would sure enjoy sitting trot more that way!! 
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I was certainly a relaxed rider!
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well, as the owner of said saddle, who was 5’ and 98lbs at the time of purchase…it fit me fine.
I’m still 5-1, and about 126 now after age and weightlifting changed me, and I can still ride in it fine. If I recall, the poster is similarly petite.
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How are you measuring saddle fit for the rider? It’s the length of your femur that is the main factor in fit. Two people can be the same height and weight, but one can have a much shorter femur, thus will fit in a smaller sized saddle. I know two women the same height who share a horse and saddle but struggle with the saddle fit because they are built differently. One has long legs; the other shorter legs.
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It’s the length of your femur that is the main factor in fit.
Not true, sorry. This is a myth that’s propogated by saddle companies that don’t have flap options.
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It’s been true for the million years I’ve been riding and I’ve had a ton of saddles. You are correct though, that the flap and placement of knee roll are also factors. Could you explain more about how you see saddle fit? I am curious.
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Thigh length has a greater impact on jump saddles. In dressage, where the thigh is closer to vertical and the rider should be right over the stirrup bar, it has very little effect on seat size. Ergox2 is doing some really fun research on this.
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i’m 5.0 and my new-and-improved Covid weight is 135. All that new fat is in my belly (and i awaken each morning daydreaming of liposuction, i just can’t stop thinking about it LOL).
So, Schleese people measured me. The odd thing about their measuring is that they measured LEG starting from the top of my hip bone, at my waist! Also, “straight leg” was not straight, they asked me to bend at the knee as i would in long stirrups riding in a saddle. And personally, i ride with my stirrups shorter than i see a lot of other riders. So their 85 would probably be more like an 80 the way i actually ride. But they would not be advised anything. Anyway, this is what they wrote on their sheet:
I don’t know that I’d say it’s the “main factor”, but definitely a big factor in whether or not a saddle will work for you.
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It absolutely is a big factor for me. Depending on the saddle, and the placement/type of flap/knee roll/thigh block, I can ride in a 17" in some saddles, but might need a 17 1/2" or 18" in others. When dealing with used saddles, you don’t have the luxury of selecting your perfect flap.
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