Severely contracted tendons

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Here are a few photos of Kerole’s colt. What a remarkable recovery! There is hope for my Prince.[/QUOTE]

That mare was very lucky not to have a distocia. Many foals are lost during birth due to foetal contraction. Wonderful recovery photos.

Good luck with your foal. I have had a few with contraction that all came good but nothing that bad. The “worst” long term result was a foal that the vet didn’t think needed any treatment. In hindsight a toe extension might have prevented her from having a difficult (but not clubbed) foot.

Yes I agree Bats. Oddly, the birth was very straightforward and easy. The mare spat the foal out without any problems or assistance and had hardly any signs of having just foaled. She was back in foal a month later with frozen, no hassles.

Interestingly the foal didn’t seem quite so bad when he was born. He needed some assitance to stand initially and was a bit on tippy toes. Vet gave him oxytet but 14 hours later there was no change. Foal could get up and down and feed without any trouble. It was assumed that some time to stetch and loosen was needed and it was best to do that out in the small grassy pasture where he was born. By the next morning the limbs looked like the photo, totally knuckled over.

I heard back from Don Kapper at Progressive Nutrition. He feels that the prognosis for Prince to develop in to an athlete is not very good given the severity of the contractions. I am so disappointed.
I have spent over $8000. in vet bills alone and he is not even 3 weeks old. To be told that he does not have a good prognosis is heartbreaking.

Don’t give up!
Don is a very nice man, but UC Davis is the best, go with their advice! Best wishes for a very full recovery!

Gen, he will be fine but it will take some time! And just tell Della that prognostic… she will whip Prince into shape!!!
Kudos for all you are doing. I don’t know how you do it, esp. this year.
Lots of jingles.
Kerole’s story is amazing. I bet you Prince will look beautifully straight in a few months.

Here are photos from this morning.

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Genevieve – I think he is making progress! The fact that he can stand on his own is big (IMO).

I had a filly born in 2009 with VERY contracted tendons. She was completely unable to stand at all, because they would just knuckle over and she would fall down. She was unable to stand and nurse, so she was a bottle baby while we treated her.

We did splints for her. We cut PVC pipe pieces (lengthwise) and rounded and shaped them, and kept her wrapped on all four legs. I fed her every hour (milking the mare each time) between 6am and midnight and every two hours between midnight and 6am. She never gave up. She was a little trooper and even though I was completely exhausted, I kept trying, because she wanted to.

She used to stand behind me and watch me milk the mare over my shoulder. One day I got her up (and she was almost able to get up on her own at that point) and she walked over and nursed on the mare and that was the end of the bottle feeding.

My vet was not experienced with this, so we just got through it the best we could. I spent a ton of money on vet bills – but in the end? She was perfect. Other than some scarring on her legs from being wrapped, you would never, ever know there had been anything wrong with her.

Unfortunately I didn’t take any pictures of the contraction – I was just so overwhelmed with caring for her at that point that I didn’t even think of it.

I think your little Prince is improving and I certainly wouldn’t call this the end of the road!

Don’t give up Genevieve. He stands, he nurses and you are there for him. It will get better. Now’s the time to… let the time make the rest. I’m litterally a continent away from UCDavis, but I have always been told they are the best. If they feel there’s a good prognostic for him, then… there’s hope for the best! :slight_smile:

Thank you.
I spoke with a Dynasplint rep this morning. Prince will be getting fitted and will get spiffy new splints.

Fantastic! I am in the do not give up yet camp as well and I don’t think that is because of wishful thinking.

I still don’t quite understand how a nutrition expert can give you such a prognosis!!! Great that he will get new splints. I do think he is improving too.

I love Don as much as the next person but DynaSplints are the way to go!!! You just wait and see! A-M-A-Z-I-N-G!!!

Keep at it!!! It does not look better to you for a long time, but one morning, you will walk out and go wow! It’s better! I can not say enough great things about my Dynasplint experience, and Morgen, who was the rep at the time was fantastic! I actually helped create a design change on the boot after my experience, and they have since built upon that. (It had to do with the boot the foot goes in) PM me if you have any questions and I will send you my phone number. I can text or speak in person. Happy to just listen or be a shoulder to lean on. Several of us have been through this, and keep at it! I’m anxious to see pics of the improvement! Which splint did they end up deciding he needed?

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I still don’t quite understand how a nutrition expert can give you such a prognosis!!! Great that he will get new splints. I do think he is improving too.[/QUOTE]

I agree; how can a nutritionist who hasn’t seen your foal give a prognosis like that. I’m assuming that the vets at UC Davis gave you some positive news. I had a foal there last year with contracted tendons, although not as severe as your foal’s, and came home with a treatment plan and a positive outlook. I’m cheering for you and Prince. I would love to see what the new splints look like after they are fitted, if you are able to post pictures.

OMG I cannot understand that sort of negative response from the nutrition chap. My vet and all three consulting specialists never once suggested my colt would have a compromised future. Quite the opposite in fact.

I was very clear that should I embark on this journey I needed the outcome to be bloody close to perfect and not 70, 80, or 90%. I can live with some small scars but I could only justify all the expense if the colt was going to be able to perform to his fullest potential and that his longevity of soundness would not be lessened in any way.

At one point my vet wondered out loud about surgery to release the tendon (imagine my horror! but apparantly the tendon heals with no trouble at all) but the two independant consulting surgeons said ‘no way’ he can stand and drink and that means he can be mended in a much more conservative way.

I have another example of how doing the hard yards now will pay off for you Gen.

A few years back a close friend’s old mare had a severely contracted foal. The contractures included the knees and fetlocks of both front limbs. At full stretch the limbs formed a half circle. Her front limbs were also windswept.

The foal was small and dysmature. She could not get up or stand without being lifted and held. She was bottle fed and had manual physio every 2 hours round the clock. She had main-lined oxytet that created terrible infections at the catheter site.

AT NO POINT was this considered a hopeless case.

The oxytet seemed to help the knees but not the fetlocks. Eventually she could stand with assistance and drink. The physio continued. She was wrapped and splinted.

By 30 days she could stand on tip toes unassisted. At 5 weeks she had a P-strip to address the medial/lateral deviation. By 4 months there was no hint that she had any issues at all.

This filly is now under saddle as a 4yo. She remained small (nothing to do with the contractures) but is totally sound and her limbs and hooves are perfect.

I will email Gen the photos to post here.

Gen - do not give up! By 2 and a half months I was very down about the whole thing. So much money. So much worry and so many unanswered questions. I wouldn’t wish this on anyone, but faced with the same situation would I do it all again? Definately. Without question.

Don’t give up we had a colt born with terrible carpus valgus , he couldn’t get up on his own and then when he did this knees overlapped so badly that he couldn’t walk forward without tumbling over. We were given the same prognosis.

This is he today, keep faith there is always hope.
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Don’t give up! While I was in vet school at UC Davis we saw a few very contracted foals. All of them did great with splinting and time.

It has been a terrible year for some of us. It is A LOT of work when things need a lot of care but once they are through it you look back and say “that was not so bad”! I just finally have been allowed to let my mare graze unattended and now the last few months of hand grazing, incision care, multiple feedings, etc seem like nothing and so long ago!!

Jingles!!

Poor little guy!

I know it sounds weird, but try OCD Pellets. I’m sold on the stuff! My rescue weanling I got grew too fast and her hind fetlocks started to knuckle over and she could barely walk.

I put her on the OCD Pellets and within two weeks she was happily trotting around totally sound again. At the age of 5 now taking dressage lessons with a paraolympian and just floats along. I know my girl doesn’t compares to your little guy, but it wouldn’t hurt to try them. As a first time buyer you get a free tub when you buy a tub. Email Dr. Beebee and send him the photos and he’ll tell you what he thinks. He’s quick to get back to you.

Lot’s of other success stories/testimonials on there as well.

www.OCDPellets.com

Sending jingles!

Thank you for the OCD pellet comment. I feed them to the weanlings and yearlings but it did not occur to me to feed them to a foal less than a month old. I will contact them.

Gen - When are the dynasplints due?