This article, which may or may not be behind a paywall, says 20-40% of healthcare workers were refusing it as of Dec 31.
Currently in Ocala there are no wait times for the ER. Go online and check. Appointments are available.
For those of you in CA please don’t come here.
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Has anyone here been severely financially impacted by the response to COVID? I’m not talking your 401k, I’m talking your day-to-day income.
Because saying “short term pain and economic hardship” when you aren’t the one who lost everything is pretty haughty. We have horses, people - we are the elite, looking down on the proletariat.
Why don’t we all try to pretend we have no money to spend and no savings for 6 months and see how we feel about that “short term pain and economic hardship.”
How dismissing.
And to try and head it off - no, I don’t want grandma to die. One person’s strife does not dismiss another. Both are very serious issues. Both have lifelong (and maybe fatal) consequences.
A balance has to be found. We can’t compare ourselves to islands. Hawaii is doing pretty good too - it’s not the same situation at all.
Edit: “short term” is not one year. “short term” is 2 weeks. Germany imposed lockdowns and still had a severe outbreak. China did unspeakable things to their citizens (par for the course, there), and until yesterday would not allow researchers into Wuhan to try and figure out the source of the virus. And they’re your shining star? “Two cases in Bejing” - is that a joke? Has anyone actually been to these places and seen the hundreds of scooters with 4 people each on them at the intersections waiting for a green light? 2 cases? Seriously?
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See my post about ER wait times please. Your nurse friend may not understand
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Unfortunately some of us are speaking “in hindsight” or if we could have chosen.
New Zealand had a 5ish week lockdown and subsidized its citizens. This was short term pain for long term gain.
The US model is simply drawing it out while the lower working class is sinking deeper into disparity and the elite horse owners go to horse shows.
Bringing it back to topic: A simple way of helping marginalized people is to stay home from desert circuit and simply pay those working class individuals (like grooms) in the form of a tip.
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I don’t know who to trust about ER capacity any more. I had to go a couple of weeks ago because I broke my arm in a non-horse related fall. I was seriously worried because the local news has been telling everyone how the ERs are at capacity, etc.
I walked right in, had a room right away, got my X Ray and splint and was out in an hour. The nurses and doc said the floor was dead quiet and they only had one other patient that night. They said they didn’t know why it was being reported as dire, the whole winter has been really slow as non-COVID sick people are still avoiding the ER. It was…interesting.
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The government has to be willing to provide significant financial support to businesses and individuals to weather the storm. That’s what has saved lives in many countries - wage subsidies, rent subsidies, daycare for kids of essential workers, eviction freezes, tax holidays…other countries have done this but the USA never will.
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So then, right or wrong, you can’t tell people to stay home and “be responsible.” They have to pay their bills. Everything is at stake for them.
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May not understand what? What she’s actually seeing with her own fracking eyes???
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We were talking about people choosing to stay home or prance around a horse show ring. So yes, I think it’s more than reasonable to expect those people to stay home.
I also think it’s a reasonable expectation for a government to provide clear leadership, enact federal regulations, and offer financial support to ensure responsible, life-saving behaviour but that’s a much larger political decision outside the scope of whether people should be going to a horse show.
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I have. I lost my job in April and husband got laid off in November. We’re now making about 50% of what we were before.
I still get angry at people who are horse showing, vacationing, going out to bars and clubs, etc. Those people are dragging out the hardships for everyone else.
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What nature was your employment that you lost your job, if you don’t mind me asking? And your husband’s?
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Not sure why it’s relevant but I was on the logistics side of transportation and he was in oil and gas.
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You’ll have to excuse the delay in some folks responding with misinformation taking points, Parler has been down.
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Lol!!
@dani0303, sorry to hear that. My husband works adjacent to oil and gas and his income was impacted at the beginning of the pandemic. I hope things get better for you in the new year.
I’m also sorry to hear this. It’s been an incredibly difficult year 
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This has been suggested over and over and over. It apparently can’t be done. It just CAN’T be.
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Thank you @vxf111 and @SadieRidingHorses. We’re hanging in there.
Husband found a new job as a long haul trucker. It’s a lot less pay but it’s something. I’ve gone back to teaching lessons which I love but we all know there isn’t a ton of money in horses 
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