Sit Trot with a Tight Lower Back

Yes, I’ve luckily never experienced that, but I’d imagine it would feel quite awful given where the psoas is located. I’ve heard of a contracted psoas causing knee pain too.

In case OP or anyone else is interested, I thought I’d attach a few articles about the psoas, as it was something that once prevented my hip flexibility in the sitting trot.

https://dressageridertraining.com/blog/role-psoas-muscle-dressage-riders/
https://alignmentrescue.com/the-dressage-rider-and-the-psoas/
http://www.frangriffith.co.uk/wp/psoas/

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Those of you who feel they sit effectively - please describe the motion/how you move. WHat does your core DO? Is it small little sit-ups? Etc…

It’s a bit difficult to explain, but I’ll try and give it a shot. It is not quite as active as “small sit ups” , which would be somewhat similar to what a strong half halt would be like, minus bringing your stomach in.

For the sitting trot, you don’t want to use your core in a way that makes you go stiff, but rather for your core to be toned up to your diaphragm area. I had a coach once explain it to me like this: If someone where to come and punch you in the stomach, then your whole abdomen, including up to your bra strap would be relatively hard. You don’t really invert your stomach muscles much at all (which is what happens in sit ups) because then your breathing is disrupted and it will make you curl over. Instead, you want to activate them, if that makes sense? It is very similar to the muscles you use when you cough. But the degree that those muscles are used changes somewhat, depending how bouncy the trot is.

Hopefully someone else can chime in with another example to give a fuller picture.

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For me, it is similar to warming up in yoga. You’re stacking your torso/shoulders/head and lifting your diaphragm with the support of your core and back, but this isn’t accomplished by being tense (if that makes any sense?). So your core is engaged, but as @Rosewatt explained it isn’t clenched.

Great suggestions here, and I’m going to share one that is a little ‘TMI’ and kinda gross but the thought has really helped me. Like others, I’ve had a real challenge opening up my seat and relaxing enough to really sit down on my horse and into the movement. In addition to warming up on a yoga ball, and stretching, when I’m in the saddle I think about bearing down … (as if I’m using the bathroom) (sorry) … and it really helps to connect my seat to the saddle, where I can follow the movement actively. Sorry for the visual, but it has made sitting a big bouncy trot so much easier.

thank you everyone ! I have a lot of reading to do with a few of the suggestions above and some attempts at doing some floor work. I need to find the balance of not stiffening up my whole body, keeping the upper half engaged but yet soft lower.

I used to find sitting trot nearly impossible, regardless of the horse’s movement or how well it was working. I was just too stiff through my entire core/abdomen area because I had in my head that was what it was supposed to look like I wasn’t moving, so I was trying not to move! I had to visualize a bowl of jello just below my belly button/waist. It sounds extreme, but that was what was needed to get me loose enough to move with my horse. Once you exaggerate it a bit in the opposite direction of where you are now, finding the “sweet spot” is easier. When the horse is moving in balance, that is fairly easy to maintain with minimal core strength/engagement. If the horse starts falling on the forehand and/or needs a half halt, then I am engaging my core at, or just above, my waist/belly button area as if I was doing a mini sit up. Once I got it right, it was quite an epiphany as I can now ride even my very big moving new gelding in sitting trot without a lot of trouble and yet it had previously eluded me for years!

First, I find that STRETCHING (esp by back) on a regular basis and before riding really loosens my hip and back. Yes, you need core strength, but you also have to be loose enough to follow the horse. Second, a trot that is well connected and over the back is so much easier to sit than a disconnected one.

I make sure that I’m sitting “on” my seatbones and not leaning back or forward. I think of having erect posture in the saddle (not rounding my lower back). I let my hips follow the movement without rounding my lower back. For example, during the trot, my hips move a bit like I was running - right hip forward, then back, the forward…-in motion with the forward and back motion of the horse’s hind legs. I control the stride length by how much I let my hips move with the motion or drive the motion - that involves the core muscles. In the canter, my hips are more stable and dictate the lead, but I let them move back and forth (forward and back and slightly up and down with the phase of the canter) to dictate the stride. I momentarily stop following the motion, which my horse understands as an ask to sit and collect a bit, for a half halt. But just for a moment each stride as I half-halt. I exaggerate the movement to ask for a medium/extended gait. I turn my hips slightly to signal haunches in or out/half pass.

Additionally, I “scoop” (??) alot with my seat and thighs to tell the horse that more pressure from the outside leg or inside leg (in pulses with the gait) means move your specific quarters laterally, not a more forward or upward gait change. So to dictate stride, my hips move but on roughly the same plane (say x and y plane) but to do lateral work, my hips also incorporate up/down, or the z plane of movement. So to shoulder-in, my inside hip sort of is lower at a point in the stride than my outside hip to say (in conjunction with my rotated shoulders and bending aids) “please bend, but cross that front leg and lets face it, slightly the inside hind, to stay bent but moving on this straight line”. I feel the shoulder-in comes mostly from my positioning to pre-start and then all from the motion of my hips and the outside rein aids to keep the bend on a straight line. I think the shoulder-in to haunches-in comes primarily from the hips (from that scooping movement in the z plane from the inside hip to the outside hip).

From the waist up, I don’t move much. I turn my shoulders to influence the front legs for lateral work.

I don’t know if this makes any sense, but this is how it feels to me!! Hips/pelvis and thighs and calves and heels work independently but in an orchestrated manner to achieve the proper throughness to sit well and small changes in your weight and pressure application/distribution is the key to providing effective aids and staying in real balance with your horse. It is SOOOOO much easier to sit a forward moving and through horse than one that isn’t!!!

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try to think that the horse is a ball. and youre a ball the balls are ontop of eachother and the lower ball (the horse) rolls forward, now which way does the upper ball roll(the rider)? try to think like youre rolling basically. and if you have dificulty feeling like you move too much to the side think that theres a rubber band pulling you to the horses ears. ofcourse change does not happen over night and core strenght is important aswell but so is the mental side of things as that is where change starts

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