something to kill adult Onchocerca? 19 CASE STUDIES POSTED-PAGE 58

Thanks JB!

I’m wondering if treatment must be Equimax or if what
is desired is ivermectin with praziquantel. I can get
compounded liquid ivermectin with praziquantel (with
a vet’s blessing) from Redline Pharmacy through Heartland
Vet Supply for $12 per double dose (for a 1000# horse)
which is around half what Equimax would cost for the
same amount. Be nice to save a few dollars but, obviously,
there is no saving if the treatment doesn’t work.

I have used Imax Gold liquid here in Aus which is Ivermectin and Praziquantel with good effect.

Bumping this back up. Warm weather has finally arrived. I noticed the other day my one guy began showing signs (rapidly flicking his tail between his hind legs) of the worms moving around his belly midline. I checked, but saw no midges flying around his underside, so concluded it was the internal worms on the move, getting into position for gnat season.

I had just received my shipment of worming meds for him, too. Seems just in time. :slight_smile: My annual battle against his NTW begins anew.

We did our first double dose yesterday (Ivermectin). Today not a hint of tail flapping.

One of our horses had several outbreaks last summer, so I have been very careful to watch for any signs this Spring. A few days ago, I saw some very small black flakes on his butt cheeks by the edge of his tail hair where he had major outbreaks last year. I also DD Ivermectin and so far have not seen any further development.

It is up in the 70’s here and the flies and gnats are just starting to appear.

Sorry if this has been covered but does the dosing need to be exactly 14 days apart?

A day or two off schedule won’t make a big deal.

Blessed Relief!

I have an Icelandic mare who has suffered horribly. After one DD, she has a new lease on life. I have seven horses plus two boarders who will all be treated. I think some horses display terrible symptoms, others may be carriers. We want this nastiness gone! I am trying to find a vet school and sponsors for new research on onchocerca. The main research available in North America is thirty years old. It came out around when ivermectin was introduced. Our vets need current information. We all do.

This may have already been posted here but I don’t have time to read through all 78 pages. I have done the two double doses (two weeks apart of course) for my horse that has classic sweet itch symptoms and still no relief. How many cycles of this would you think before it’s safe to assume that it’s not what’s causing the symptoms?

A friend of mine wants to treat her 3 horses for NTWs. She has on hand 3 tubes of Zimectrin Gold. If she uses it, should she get more so she can DD it ? Or do you just DD the Equimax?

Or should she use the 3 single doses and follow up in 2 weeks with DDE ?

Stay AWAY from the Z-Gold!!! A) it doesn’t have as much praziquantal in it; and (more importantly) B) It has a long and inglorious history of causing mouth & lip ulcers. Just do a search in this forum on it and you’ll see.

Stick with the Equimax and the protocol as outlined in here: double dose by weight Day 1, double dose by weight Day 14.

Thanks for the quick reply ! I had told her that i would never use zgold but she had it and didnt want to waste it. Now i have another question. How does quest or quest plus work in this program? I know not to double dose quest or quest plus, but is it too powerful of a wormer to repeat in 14 days ? And should you hold off on DDE if you have wormed with quest or quest plus in the last month or 2 ?

Another dose of moxidectin in 14 days would be nearly the same as double dosing.

Moxidectin is stored in fat, which is (partially) why it’s a longer-acting chemical. Dosing again so soon puts more of the chemical into storage where it could cause harm.

I would wait 12 weeks after using Quest before considering a DDE.

Yup, what JB ^ said :yes:

Thanks again ! Relaying all this good info now…

Whew! I began reading this thread two days ago and I’m still only up to page 45! Fantastic.

Has this information been collated anywhere? :confused:

I’d love to see a condensed version after such a long time :slight_smile:

I wasn’t even aware of this forum until guided to it via another website, so have now joined.

Oh well, back to page 45 … :eek:

Alas, it’s not been collated much anywhere except the case studies (as noted in the thread title).

Happy deworming!

Trying to read it all and thought I’d just ask-so sorry to ask something I KNOW someone has asked before, I’m sure.
Can someone post the year-long worming schedule they follow for this? Do you add in the PowerPaks to this as well at some point?
I’m still reading, just so intriguing!

[QUOTE=Loves to ride;3547972]
My apologies for not being able to read each post (although I wanted to, not enough time)… Interesting thread!

Did anyone have any issues with their horses stocking up within 1-2 days after a DD?

I DD ivermectin and 2 days later, one of mine was stocked up behind. No discernible heat. Not lame. Just stocked up. Stayed that way for 4 days and then back to normal.

It could also be him being a tad crazy in turn-out but the timing was a bit coincidental to the DD.[/QUOTE]

I’m aware that I’m replying well after the fact, but I’ve been going through each post from the start, and this one especially spoke to me. I’m not even yet sure if anyone else responded to this, or could relate at all.
My girl stocks up just a few hours after even a single dose of Equimax, but not ivermectin knock on wood. This is why I did my first double dose with the iver. I had no problem with that and she has been noticeably less itchy, though one of the stall walls had to be repaired a few days after. I’m eager to give her the second DD of iver this coming Monday. I won’t be doing anything other than DDing with iver, then single dosing it, as needed. Can’t touch the Equimax.
She is a three year old Clydesdale and this is dramatically helping. Less bum, mane, body itching and feather issues. FINALLY!!! THANK GOD!!! I had tried everything!
This thread is such a blessing. I can’t wait to read the rest and report on our experience. Callie and I thank you all! So happy! :applause:

[QUOTE=ChocoMare;3548262]
Yes, stocking up can occur. Read here: http://www.chronicleforums.com/Forum/showpost.php?p=3481841&postcount=288[/QUOTE]

Oh, I now see this reply, though the link no longer works …


Apparently swollen legs can be a reaction if the horse is heavily infested?