Spin off....things you never thought you had to tell your BM

Barn 1:
“Oh, by the way, your board goes up $100 TOMORROW” isn’t an appropriate way to increase board.

Perhaps the reason the herd keeps breaking out of the pasture for the hayfield is because you haven’t put out round bales in week, nor have you grained any of them. I suspected you weren’t feeding, so I came out to check at random times during the day and made note of exactly how the buckets were lined up and how much grain was in the bin. If you don’t want boarders any more, you don’t have to starve our horses. Just give us 30 days to find new accommodations. We’ll understand.

Barn 2:
Don’t tell me that pellets absorb all the water and that’s why my elderly gelding is in the auto waterer in the pasture first thing in the morning. When I tell you that the reason that he’s so thirsty is that his bucket smells like swamp from the rotting grain his toothless mouth left behind, don’t ask me if I’ve cleaned it out yet. I’m paying full stall board on 3 horses. Your hired staff isn’t doing her job. Ask HER why she’s not checking buckets, not me.

Don’t tell my 13 year old son that he’ll be on the hook for stud fees if your stallion breaks out of his paddock and covers his pony mare without consent. No, the kid wasn’t teasing the stallion. He was quietly walking his pony down the only path from pasture to barn, the path that also went past the stallion’s paddock.

Don’t tell me that my mare is getting proper turn out, because I will show up at random times during the day and find her standing in her stall, in the dark barn, when everyone else is outside.

Don’t wait till the barn is full of boarders who haven’t bothered to show up all winter to tell me I’ve “not locked the gate six times” over the past month, when I know damn well it was locked because the barn is next to a major highway and I don’t want my horses dead on it. Also, if I did somehow screw up, tell me immediately. Don’t let it keep happening.

Don’t tell me you’ll give my long yearling his antibiotics while I take ONE day to attend my grandmother’s funeral if you have no intention of medicating him. I can count pills, you know.

Don’t tell me you’ll keep my elderly gelding inside when it’s a cold, wet snow and he’s (a) unblanketed and (b) obviously unable to cope with cold weather any more, then turn him out anyway. Don’t let your mother accuse my dear friend of trying to steal the most worthless horse in the entire barn with a sports car, when she kindly comes out to the barn to put the old horse in his stall so he doesn’t get ill and die (BO and I were at an event miles from home when she let it slip that my horse was out in the storm. I called my friend in front of the BO.)

Don’t tell me (voice on camera) that you’ll feed the grain mixes I have prepared for each of my 3 horses (stored in handy buckets outside their stalls, and only temporarily until the last bag I bought prior to moving in is gone) while I’m out of town for 3 days, then tell my husband that you refuse to feed them, and, when I return, tell me with straight face that you never agreed to feed my grain because you don’t know if it’s rancid. I have you on camera. With witnesses.

Don’t tell me you have no idea why my long yearling has long, narrow marks on his fur that resemble burn marks and are the precise diameter of your favorite whip’s lash when the other boarders have cornered me in the tack room and told me to GET OUT NOW because you’re abusing my horses behind my back.

That’s just a fraction of the crap she pulled. I lasted 6 months there. I emptied my tack space at night when she wasn’t around and left without notice. I had back up plans to load the horses on the street in front of the barn if she wasn’t going to let my friend’s trailer on her property. There was no drama. She sucked up to me in public for years afterward.

Barn 4:
Don’t tell me that my pony mare ran my 4 year old gelding into the woven wire fence and that’s how he fatally severed his REAR flexor tendon. Don’t tell me that you tied up the “broken” fence, when I’m the one who tied it up three weeks ago and you haven’t bothered to fix it yet. Don’t insult my intelligence: that’s rust, not blood, on the fence and there are no skid marks in the dirt, but there are bloody steps leading from the shed where the rusted partial hay ring was, the one I wanted removed and you refused. WAS because I know damn-well you pulled it out AFTER my horse was hurt.

DO tell me that you’ve put your stallion down so that I don’t search high and low for him when I come to feed.

Don’t demand that I move my stuff out of the tack room because you have new boarders coming in. After I move out in 3 weeks. Don’t shut my remaining horses off the pasture I’m still paying for just because you want it longer for the “new boarders.”

I had only my trailer, halters, and horses on the property after she demanded I vacate the tack room, and was prepared be hitched, loaded and off the property in 10-15 minutes. I ended up temporarily moving back to Barn 3 until Barn 5 was ready for me to move in.

Barn 5:
Please don’t play Pepperoni Games with my show horses, the ones that can be handled by small children, then tell me that they “need more training” because they drag you across the icy paddock.

She’s a dear friend. My elderly horse is buried on her farm and her care was impeccable. But my horses are anti-pepperonis, so I moved for the sake of our friendship.

Barn 6:
Please don’t grain my horses. They’re air fern half-Arabs, not hard-keeper TBs. Are you trying to kill them?

My current barn is lovely. They love both my horses and take good care of them :slight_smile:

Oh my god. Please feed my horse. Please feed him the grain I buy, bag, and label and put as close as possible to him. Please understand I can count and measure. Please understand that I used to be in your shoes and I understand that its hard work but no horse under my care ever missed a meal and I expect the same.

Please give my horse clean water. All the time. Even when its cold.

If at evening feed there is no poop in my horse’s stall please call me. Its shocking to randomly show up at the barn at 7pm to an impacted horse with no poop when the stalls were cleaned at 9am.

Please feed my horse. Don’t let your horse eat my horse’s feed. Please. I know I’ll keep buying more and more and fret and worry why my horse is wasting away but I’ll figure it out eventually.

Please harrow the arena. I like to ride.

Do not suddenly decide to stop feeding the good quality grain, that had been used in your marketing information as one of the reasons someone should board here, and instead start feeding soy meal, or just plain soybeans as ‘grain’. Especially do not do that as an abrupt switch and fail to tell people. Boarders started noticing weird looking stuff in the feed tubs, and grumpy horses. That was why. A Vet who happened to be there doing dental floats at the time this happened, was aghasted, and I believe was the only person able to get it through the BO’s numb skull why that was a bad idea, when none of us boarders could convince her.

Do not tell people you want them to store whatever supplements in the grain room, then lock the grain room so no one can get in to replenish supply of same, or to verify that supplements are being fed.

Do not go out of the country, being unreachable for 2 weeks, without ensuring that you have an adequate amount of hay on hand, or at least tell someone who speaks English where said hay can be found, if stored off site.

Do not padlock shut one of the overhead barn doors, when there are only 2. That is a fire hazard.

Do not take my money and fail to deliver basic standard of care, water, hay, grain, etc.

Do not laugh at me for cleaning sawdust and dirt off of the salt block in the horse’s stall. It is bad enough that no one else notices that the horse cannot use ir, and has no desire to even in the middle of a hot Midwestern Summer, because it is so yucky.

Do not lock the gate between the two pastures, when the outdoor horses have to share the automatic waterer that is in the other pasture because the one in pasture 1 is not working. Especially do not do this without informing anyone. When boarder (me) notices this, and complains to you, do not get ‘huffy’ and defensive about it; remedy the situation.

Do not grab a hold of my horse’s bit, while she and I are standing quietly in the middle of the arena waiting for some lesson kids to be done with their lesson, and demand that we leave the arena, even though the Instructor has said it is OK.(Same stupid BO of the soybeans and/or soy meal fiasco)

Do not tell me that my horse will be turned out in a pasture, but put her out in an un-shaded, limestone dust paddock instead, with no hay.

I could tell more, but this is so depressing to remember some of this.

The follow up to my EPM one:

Thanks for the $100 vet bill I didn’t need or ask for. Winner. You decided that my horse had EPM, due to being stiffer on one rein than the other, and you then phoned the vet while I was out of the state for a couple weeks visiting my family (in a state 2000 miles away) in order to have said vet stick a needle into my horse and test her for EPM. I was completely unaware that any of this was happening until I called you halfway through my holiday, just to ask how my horse was doing, and you informed me that you had the vet draw blood for the EPM test. I would have really appreciated you calling me before you had the vet out. There are these things called phones that allow you to speak with someone in a different state. Oh, and when I point out that MOST horses have one stiff side, you saying, hundreds of horses have EPM and are never diagnosed is just a little bit weird.

The horse, by the way, is now 21 years old, sound, and still doesn’t have EPM. I could have really used that $100 bucks, though.

Please feed my 16.1 hand TB more than the ponies. He needs hay and lots of it!
Please don’t remove a fly sheet when I want him to get relief from the biting insects. It is not making him too hot!
Please don’t use him for summer camp kids as a lesson horse without asking!

I would NOT be paying a vet bill for a non-emergency call that I didn’t authorize!

saje, don’t screw over the vet just doing his/her job. Pay the bill, then go after the BO if you feel it’s necessary, but don’t stiff your vet.

I did pay the vet. And just ate the $100. When I paid the bill and got the results of the blood test (horse doesn’t have EPM, who knew), I did make grumpy noises about them doing blood tests on my horse without my authorization, and they were like ‘That’s between you and BM.’ Oooookay. The vet I used for years back in CO was very clear about it not being ethical or within codes of practice to treat horses without owner’s express consent, unless horse was on its death bed and no one could reach the owner (and you would have signed something to this effect in the boarding contract), so I don’t know what planet these vets were on. I was never gonna get it out of the BM, either. Any attempt to discuss anything like that resulted in a 20 or 30 minute rant about how her priority is the horse, how she always does right by the horse, she will do what she has to do for the welfare of the horse, she knows more about horses than everyone, ever, she trained Monty Roberts and Linda Tellington-Jones, among others, and anyone who doesn’t see things her way is plainly an idiot and doesn’t love horses as much as she does. It was easier to just eat the hundred bucks. Maybe someone could have stood up to her, but I admit, I am not great at confrontation, wasn’t then (I was like 19 or 20), so it wasn’t going to be me.

For all she said that she loved horses and horses loved her, I have never seen my horse, who can be a little bit sticky about loading sometimes, throw herself onto a trailer so fast as she did the day we left that place.

Yes, I wasn’t the one with the vet bill. That was just my off the cuuf opinion given the facts presented.

[QUOTE=CaitlinandTheBay;7909575]

Do not tough my horse’s cribbing collar. Yes, I know how you did it “back in the day” but you see, when my horse is leaning against his stall wall, barely responsive and we have to cut the thing off, that means he could not breathe. [/QUOTE]

:eek: That is HORRIBLE!! Was the horse ok?

BOs, SCREEN YOUR BOARDERS!
Barn #1 I did self care board at a place, and one day arrived to find two strange horses in the pasture with my two. Luckily they were all fine. But, as the days went by, I discovered the man owning the new ones was feeding MY grain and hay to his. He’d brought one bag of feed at first, then simply helped himself to mine. When I locked my bin up, he wrenched open the lock and used it anyway. We soon found out he’d pulled this trick at 5 other barns, only paid the first month’s board, stole others’ feed, and left in the middle of the night a few months later.
Barn 2. Same thing, self care. Another man brought two horses… (why men?) Glad I was in a barn away from the one he was at. He stole the hay and feed out of the boarder’s feed rooms. One day I arrived to see him in his truck parked with the ball hitch dead set under my trailer’s coupling!!! Shocked I approached him asking why he was parked like that? I always kept my trailer coupling LOCKED, but as we all know, that’s not fool proof. He never answered, just hung his head. Musta forgotten to bring bolt cutters? Amazingly, the barn owners let this bum stay for MONTHS. I couldn’t get out of there fast enough. Have had my own barn for 19 years now, will never board again, not from the horror stories I keep hearing from friends who still board.

I’m convinced too many barn owners mainly just want those monthly checks coming in. Don’t care who comes, just be sure they get the check 1st of the month. This is especially true of property owners who aren’t at all horsey, only rent the barns/fields out, have zero to do with the actual horse care. Only care when the money stops. Bah!

Do not wash my blankets in plane old cheap laundry soap. It washes the water proof coating. I always wash my own stuff.

And while we are washing, for the love of God, do not take it up on yourself to wash my $300 Mattes fleece girth in same said washer/detergent! I wash it at home in a front loader in cold water with fleece wash. Chunks of it came out in their washer!

How about things a BM shouldn’t have to tell the barn owner (who knew nothing about running a farm - this was a tax write off… but tried anyhow to dabble with farm stuff)

  1. Please don’t leave the tractors running all day in the middle of the field because you needed to take a call and the tractor was too loud and then go home

  2. Please don’t use the tractor with the hay spike on the front like a light saber to try and clear paths in the trees. No, it will not cut down the limbs but it WILL partially destroy the bucket.

  3. Ditto the above with the backhoe - especially when the limbs come crashing through the windshield.

  4. Please do not use the chainsaw to try and unclog your new hay conditioner that you have hopelessly mashed full of wet grass to the point of seizure. Ditto to the large round baler.

  5. Please do not stand over the burn pile when you have doused it with 20 gallons of gasoline and try to light with your lighter. Yes, you will mess up your new facelift and hair plugs.

  6. Please do not put my horse just out of knee surgery on the Eurocizer for an hour at a jog because he looked bored. Yes, you did just blow his knee out and he is now permanently lame.

Please do not lunge/turn out/chase my horse that was on stall rest for a medial/lateral collateral ligament tear…

I came by to pick his stall and found him running in the indoor with the BM chasing him. We didn’t last long. I was horrified, BM insisted (NH type) he was a horse and needed to be out of his stall. I found him later that week walking my gelding in the indoor!! :no:

You guys have been with a bunch of psychos! My lady may take the cake though…

-PLEASE do not EVER keep my horse in a stall for 24 hours because “it was raining” or “it was muddy”, he is a HORSE! (Also, this caused horse to take up weaving).
-PLEASE do not stop feeding my horse because you can’t afford hay, if you can take my $$ for board, make sure it goes to feeding MY HORSE and not your collector-item horse hoarding issue.
-PLEASE do not EVER clean out 10-15+ year old hay from the loft and feed it to my horse (this was the day I was leaving said farm), causing him to contract EPM and almost DIE. Him smashing his head off of every fence post, unable to stand without assistance from a wall, extremely ataxic and blind in his right eye from his BRAIN swelling is certainly “not your fault”.

For any of you wondering the outcome of this, I put my one (not dying) horse on a trailer and got him the heck out of there. The EPM horse ended up falling in the aisle, eyes rolling all around in his head, terrified of EVERYONE but me. We got him up and basically carried him to the first stall he could enter. I was so mad that I told everyone there not to touch my horse ever again (as the vet was on his way). Vet told me right then that he would likely not make it, based on his WBC count alone, but he would do everything he could to save my horse. He couldn’t get anywhere near a trailer so we boarded up the stall (he was afraid of literally everything). I bought hay and loaded it into my 2-door car, hung a hay net directly in front of him (he couldn’t move from the wall). Vet said his will to live was what saved him.

I slept in his stall and he ATE and DRANK non stop for weeks without moving from the wall. Eventually he could walk, then he could trot and now he is 100% better. Also, the barn is now leveled and the lady will never board again. The vet bill was expensive, the needles/meds seemed endless and sleeping in his stall with him seemed to calm him down.

WORST barn owner EVER.

Sorry, but your horse cannot be in a stall ONE day??? What if there is a blizzard?

Also, you do know that EPM can remain dormant in the horse for years, right? He could have ingested the protozoa at any time. And at minimum takes weeks to develop into full blown ataxia? Certainly not the same day as exposure. Sorry for the disease, but perhaps not the BOs fault.

[QUOTE=CindyCRNA;7920293]
Do not wash my blankets in plane old cheap laundry soap. It washes the water proof coating. I always wash my own stuff.

And while we are washing, for the love of God, do not take it up on yourself to wash my $300 Mattes fleece girth in same said washer/detergent! I wash it at home in a front loader in cold water with fleece wash. Chunks of it came out in their washer![/QUOTE]

I lost a new Rambo fly sheet this way. It shrunk in the dryer from a 78" to about a 60". I could tell that all of the barn fly sheets had been thrown in the washing machine together, because they were half clean and all wrinkled in a big pile. The BO would have none of it, insisting “look, it’s dirty”. Yes, it is in spots, because 10 fly sheets were put in the machine together, and then mine got shrunken in the dryer.

“No.”

Soooo…you think a brand new $150 fly sheet just shrank because the horse wore it? :rolleyes:
I was also constantly having to rescue my turnouts from the wash pile, because they would get put through the machine with hot water and Tide to get them clean. Yes, I see that yours are cleaner than mine. They also aren’t waterproof anymore.

dotnekos post in the other thread reminded me of this little beauty…
When you get up at 4 am to feed my noisy horse the hay I provide and which he should have had at bedtime, he might wake you up at 4 am on other days. When you ring me in a fit about it because you parked him in the stall closest to your bedroom window, fed him when he pawed, and didn’t feed enough hay, there will be NOTHING I can do about it :lol:
Because you don’t like to have suggestions made to you, it will take how ever long it takes for you to realize you can move him away from there.

Oh, and “too much poop” is never a reason to restrict hay, we like poop, we want poop, no poop is a big big problem you knob!!!

Wasn’t a boarder but spent a lot of time at a self-care barn, helping a friend re-school her horse.

US: Looks like that little mare has been abandoned. Owners trailer, tack, belongings, feed and other horse are gone.

BO: OK

US: We’ve been feeding and cleaning abandoned mare for a week now. Have you been able to locate the owner?

BO No

US: Eh, it’s been a month any sign of the absent owner?

BO: No

BO: (about a week later): Have you seen the absent owner of abandoned horse, she hasn’t paid her board.

Absent owner was never seen again and my friend ended up keeping abandoned horse.

Most of the places I have kept horses have been perfectly lovely. But this one–utter craziness. (The facilities were gorgeous. Owner was nuts.)

Don’t promise me sincerely that you’ll keep feeding the exact same feed he was getting at his last place, and then change it without telling me. I’m not opposed to feeding your brand, it’s not bad, but you need to tell me if you make changes!

Don’t send your barn help out into a summer storm to bring in a whole herd of horses. Yes, I know it’s lightning out and they could get hit, but so could he and that’s why he told you he wouldn’t go out there. He was risking his life to get your two colts who were about to run through the fence. By the time he gets 20 others in, the storm will be over.

Don’t smoke in the barn. Don’t let your husband smoke in the barn. Or anyone else.

Your boarders hang lead ropes as cross ties in the aisle so they can groom in a flat space with a light. The stalls are dark and we like to see our horses as we groom them. Provide tie spaces or stop freaking out about this.

it’s 40 degrees and pouring down rain, my horse and his pasture mate are out without blankets or shelter shivering like crazy, it’s 7:00 p.m. and you’re in your pajamas in front of the TV. I’m paying full board for a reason, get up and go out and bring them into the stalls I’m paying to use.

No, used motor oil is not the same as hoof dressing and I’m not going to let you slather it on my horse’s feet.

Stop changing my horse’s pasture mates every 5 minutes just because he gets along with everyone. Particularly don’t put him out with your idiot 3-yr-old TB. Baby TB can’t be alone in the pasture while I take my horse out without running through the fence, so I get to bring in my horse, your idiot baby, and a companion for idiot baby so he can be safe in the barn while I’m riding. Through three gates each way. Takes me 20 minutes to do this so I can ride, and another 20 to reverse the process afterward.

Your lighted arena is a big selling point of why I wanted to board here, and you know I don’t get off work until 6:00, so don’t be surprised when I’m out there at 7:30 riding, even when it’s dark out. And don’t be annoyed by me leading the horse through your backyard to get to the arena, if that’s the only gate in. Make another gate if you don’t like it, it’s your fence!

If your horse is in your stall with the gate hung too high and gets his head stuck partly under while lying down sleeping, and startles awake as I lead my horse into the barn, the solution is not for me not to lead my horse into the barn. The solution is to lower the gate.

Don’t whine about the other boarders to me. I know you’re whining about me to them even though I have done nothing to cause you any problems. We’re not in 7th grade, act like a professional.