Spinoff from the "Delicate Situation"

[clanter]

@Curly_Feather

Here in South Africa it is not a thing yet. I’m 37 years old and I do not know anyone or have even heard of any “friends of friends” who sued for personal injury. I’m sure it does happen in gross negligence scenarios though.

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Here in the US often cases such as “friends of friends” who sued for personal injury it is the health insurance carrier of the injured party who is seeking to recover money it has paid when others are at fault

It isn’t greed that drives these actions, it to have the responsible party pay for the damages

This just as in a recent problem we have had. Daughter was driving her car home. she was setting at a stop light when the cars crossing the intersection collided. one crashing into her car… totaling it. No injuries but car is destroyed. She has full coverage on the car. Her insurance pays for her car and now is going after the other person’s insurance to recover the funds they have paid plus get daughter’s deductible back for her. The other person, their coverage has not accepted blame since they are saying another car knocked their clients car into daughter as is at fault. Her carrier nevertheless is saying it your client’s car that destroyed our clients car … eventually she will get her deductible back.

(interesting fact was her carrier USAA was very concerned about her passenger, her service dog. She was asked if she was injured and if there were any passengers. Once that they found our she had Sucha with her they were wanting her to take her to a vet to make sure she was OK. daughter assured them the dog was fine as daughter is also a vet tech and had checked the dog …but USSA was very concerned about Sucha’s welfare)

[WildLittleWren]

Where I am located, in Florida, I hear of lawsuits over some of the most frivolous things. Not sure if its more than other areas, but I certainly hear of them regularly.

[BatCoach]

@Isabeau Z Solace

Safety is best emphasized by PROMOTING SKILL DEVELOPMENT. Gymnastics coaches provide soft landing areas but those kids still have to get out there, flip fly stretch and strain. Think one of the biggest issues we’ve got in the current horse industry is that people are so afraid to let clients do anything that client skill levels are horrendously low. That horrendously low skill level contributes more than anything else to retention, boredom and fear issues.

“ Kizzy and Etties Pony Adventures” (you must check them out on Facebook if you have not already) it’s doable (is spirit at least…)at all ages, not just five and six-year-old.

Sounds like bad instruction is the issue.

Going back to your first post,what part of skill development is getting dumped in the sand during your first lesson? Its one thing if the focus of the day actually is how to do an un-planned dismount and fall as safely as possible but that is a different matter than just putting a newbie up on a spooky horse and saying ‘figure it out.’ Fear blocks learning. You cant learn to be harmonious and relaxed on a horse if you are clamping with your legs or have a rushing heart rate.

Horses are horses, Sh*t happens. Any instructor worth their salt does their best to mitigate risk to both horse AND rider by educating the rider. Lets not forget that uneducated riders hurt horses. I guessing what you are trying to say is that too many trainers just have their clients go around the ring on the same course and never have them push their boundaries by doing any cross training or trail riding?

Pretty sure a quiet rider has never once caused a spooky horse… but a bored horse who doesn’t get enough exercise sure could be spooky.

[Salty]

In my first riding lessons, one of the first things we learned was how to “hit the dirt.” First at a standstill & ultimately at a canter. The dirt was soft, & we all thought it was fun!

We also trotted around a lot with airplane arms, or no stirrups. The ponies were golden, & kept a steady pace no matter what.

All the parents knew what we were doing, & no one objected. It was a given that falls would happen & we were given skills to minimise their frequency & to deal with them when they occurred.

I don’t know if people still learn these things as a standard.

[QHEndurance]

@Isabeau Z Solace

Safety is best emphasized by PROMOTING SKILL DEVELOPMENT. Gymnastics coaches provide soft landing areas but those kids still have to get out there, flip fly stretch and strain. Think one of the biggest issues we’ve got in the current horse industry is that people are so afraid to let clients do anything that client skill levels are horrendously low. That horrendously low skill level contributes more than anything else to retention, boredom and fear issues.

“ Kizzy and Etties Pony Adventures” (you must check them out on Facebook if you have not already) it’s doable (is spirit at least…)at all ages, not just five and six-year-old.

I absolutely LOVE following Kizzy and Ettie! What I wouldn’t give to have had a Mom like that - or to be able to ride like those girls! What I wouldn’t give for a summer vacation spent riding at the places they go!