Stall size dilemma

My 13h pony routinely limboes into the mini’s stall to finish any hay left.
There’s always hay left, because mini goes into horse’s stall to share as soon as I open the back gate to his stall. He’s locked in because horse & pony get oats, he gets TC Sr & my accommodating herdboss horse would gladly share his grain too :smirk:
Mini’s stall front is only 4’, so is the opening & gate in back.
The Sneak Thief:

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Reading all the comments, will reply to the questions as soon as I can. Seeing if I can add a mockup from my phone:

Barn is 30x40x12 tall with 12x40 open lean-to. All posts 10’ on center. Two 6’ sliding doors on north end for 12’ total opening. Man door on NW corner. North/south are the gable ends. North end faces the house/road and west side is on a bit of a steep bank. That leaves the south and east. East is at the bottom of a hill but we had the slope cut to make it gentler. New build/blank slate. Prevailing winds/bad weather from west/northwest so we had the lean to put on east side purposefully.

Geldings have shared a 10x20 lean to together for years and have been “stalled” during bad weather in 10x10 stalls made from corral panels. At one point I considered enclosing the east wall of the lean to and leaving the ends open and giving the horses the 12x20 back half of it and having no actual stalls, but I do need to feed separately in winter because the fat one is a pig and the one that requires extra feed takes his time eating.

I also need to be able to keep my round bales (approx 20 4x5s), squares (approx 75/could go in a loft), tractor, implements, and assorted horse supplies inside while still having room for a grooming area/vet/farrier.

I am also 100% considering living with this/filling with hay for a year to get a better idea of space & flow.

Too bad one isn’t a mini… the 12x 20 would be perfect.

I put my geldings feed in a corner feeder that the mini can’t reach, to achieve the separation at feed time goal. I’ve many times wished for separate stalls for only that reason.

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I started a multi-quote but it was getting long, so let me answer some of the most frequently asked questions here:

  1. They don’t need to be separated except at meal times in the winter. No food aggression, just a pig and a slow eater. Both live outside 24/7 usually, and are laid back/easy-going guys. They also both stall very well when needed.

  2. They’d very rarely be shut inside. The lean to being on the east side was specifically to block our prevailing wind and rain. I’m trying to leave my options open in case of the need for stall rest, major storms, etc.

  3. Although I’ve always dreamt of ‘nice’ stalls from Ramm or Tarter, I think with the 10x10’s I’d not want to have the bars on top (mainly so they could stick their heads out). So I could diy whatever I needed to do.

  4. A removable center divider is definitely an option I could get behind. We are also going to be installing fans on timers for the summer. We have them already and use them currently.

  5. Both have been kept in 10x10s in some emergency situation and both were observed down sleeping and getting back up without issue.

I’ve been lurking on endlessclimb’s ‘New farm, let’s build some stuff’ thread for a while. I like the idea of enclosing the lean-to and just putting two 10x12 stalls out there with dutch doors for each stall leading into the main barn. I just can’t decide if I’d want traditional style stalls with the sides open to the weather and I wouldn’t want to lose the airflow in the summer.

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I pine for an overhang, but I’m already against code with my barn addition. If you can swing it (ie, you dont need the space inside the barn youd lose with building the stalls interior), I’d keep the overhang.

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Looking at your drawing I’d do 3 10x10 stalls on the south east side inside the barn. The one furthest north I’d do a full wall so you can use it for storage if you only have two (but gives you the option for 3). Additional hay storage/feed area would continue to the north for another 10 feet, with a door to the outside so you can bring hay right outside without dirtying the barn.

Do you need a tack room/grooming area?

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here a carport falls into an acceptable category as many residents desire them

A carport is not attached to the primary structure however codes at least here do not say how close is too close so a carport could be nestled next to an existing structure

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Here are some photos of the actual structure. We still have a lot of dirt work to do, gravel base/stonedust topping to go in, etc. This is the current state of the structure; these were taken immediately after two horrendous back to back rain events. We had drainage put in but it did not keep up, so we are having more installed before we go further. Also on schedule for gutters.

North side (30’ front & 12’ lean to):

West side (40’, prevailing wind side, and only path to get machinery into pasture):

Lean to (12’ x 40’):

Inside from man door (40’ east/lean to wall on left, south/30’ gable end on right):

Inside facing front, back to south wall:

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I like what you’re saying here. I could do loft above stalls for my squares, and put my rounds in the front NE corner. That would leave the entire west wall for tractors, supplies, etc.

I don’t really need a grooming stall, but would like someplace to tie out of the weather to groom. I believe I could utilize the area in front of the stalls for that :+1:

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this is a beautiful barn and you just have to build your stalls so they open to the covered area. I don’t know your climate but that thing is amazing. Shade in summer, wind/snow break in winter, great grooming/tacking up area in summer…

I would kill for this!!

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Thank you! It’s been a long time coming, saved a lot of pennies lol! I’m in the Ohio valley area, so mild winters, just a lot of rain, mud, and thunderstorms LOL

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Clown car stall! Would be funny to see horse after horse coming out of the stall!

No run-in stalls here, but the dogs all like to get in the 4ftx4ft doghouse and backroom closet together! It can get quite exciting as they all try to exit at once. DD brings her dogs over often, so all the dogs consider themselves siblings, no fighting. Her dogs often stay overnight too. But it is a good laugh in the morning as they try to leap out of the closet to all greet you at once. Big dog on the bottom, Heeler next, Sheltie, then the still-growing Shorthair Pointer with long legs and large cat on top. Big Bouvier rises, cat yowls as she slides off the dogs and smaller dogs roll around trying to get feet under themselves!!

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I and many others I know boarded 17hh horses in 10x10s for years, turnout was “as weather permits” so lots of winter days stuck in stalls. They were fine. I’d go for the 10x10s with runouts.

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You have really thought it out so well and that is a lovely barn. Yes, the 10x10 stalls are going to work just fine. Please do update the thread later with your ponies all enjoying the new place, ok?

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Ditto!
I kick myself for leaving the overhang off my barn :confounded:
Builder - FBI - added a 3’ one over the stalls’ back Dutch doors at no charge.
It’s better then nothing, but I wish I’d had at least a 10’ added while I still had the money :disappointed:

OP: Keep your overhang!
Lovely barn :ok_hand:

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